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I've been wondering when the media was going to start talking about the fact that Mitt's father was born in Mexico.
I few minutes ago I was watching the rerun of Erin Burnett on CNN.
They are comparing Mitt Romney with Bill Richardson as far as them both being Mexican-American.
Btw, Richardson's father was born in Nicaragua and his mother was the Mexican daughter of a Spanish father from Villaviciosa, Asturias, Spain and a Mexican mother.
Now 'maybe' the GOPers will stop talking about Obama's father being born in Kenya and questioning Obama's 'natural born' status - but probably not - and if not then hopefully Mitt's 'natural born' status will get some media attention too
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Right now there are currently 6 ballot challenges against President Obama (4 in Georgia, 2 in Texas), the complaints filed are basically saying that since Obama's father was born in Kenya and not a US citizen that Barack Obama is not a 'natural born citizen'. There was one other challenge filed and it was dismissed and now in the Appeals Court.
There's a LIST of them on this PDF link: PDF: http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/BIRTHER%20CASE%20LIST.pdf
On the link above TONS of birther court cases are listed on the first 20 pages,
and then starting on page 21 there's a separate list of 2012 ballot challenges.
EDITED TO ADD CNN ARTICLE BELOW:
Could Mitt Romney be America's first Hispanic president?
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/12/opinion/romney-hispanic-roots/index.html?npt=NP1
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)because the GOP have an abysmal record when it comes to treating Latinos with respect. Being the good GOP shills CNN has become, they're trying to regain some of those angry Latinos to vote for their guy against President Obama. Of course, Latinos need to understand Romney feels as Latino as David Duke. With Dubya, at least, he was able to make it look sincere.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)(South Africa's UN representative at the height of apartheid violence) was "African"?
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)There are a lot of southern conservatives who will stay home because they hate Romney. They hate Obama more, but they cannot vote for Mittens, either.
karynnj
(59,466 posts)but no Hispanic will think that the Romney ancestors having been American ex=pats in Mexico makes them Hispanic.
Did African Americans consider Teresa Heinz Kerry an African American? There was actually more justification for that as she did grow up in Africa. However, I think the fact that she protested apartheid in South Africa as a college student had more appeal than just being born there. She was born in Mozambique and became an American citizen after she married John Heinz. Kerry, like all Democrats, got the lion's share of black votes, but that was due to his record.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)they would find some Romney's buried there.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)cousins etc.
aquart
(69,014 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)If you can't beat them on the issues them smear them as foreigners, right?
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)If one of the nutty judges rules against Obama on one of those ballot challenges then our side should file on Romney!
And it also highlights Romney's hypocrisy regarding immigration policy.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Obama's 'natural born' status - this is a different issue than where Obama was born.
This has to do with the citizenship of the 'parents'.
In my opinion, the ISSUE of where the parents where born should have NOTHING to do with the 'natural born status' of a presidential candidate that was born in the USA.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Clearly, both Obama and Romney are full citizens of the United States no matter where there father's are born.
That is the high road.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)the legal question is what's the definition of 'natural born' in regards to the wording in the U.S Constitution.
unc70
(6,088 posts)The Naturalization Act can only grant citizenship. The Act of 1790, whether deliberate or by accident, tries to bestow natural born citizen. The Act of 1795 repeals the Act of 1790, and natural born has not been used since.
Repubs legal "scholars" trying to prove McCain natural born and Obama not. Mccain's status was questioned during Repub primaries.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)But Romney has no remorse for those who seek to escape economic disaster in mexico. That make sense.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)The other side os hypocritical as hell too. Really? Because Obama's FATHER was born somewhere else, he iineligible for the presidency? So what they're really saying is that our first few presidents for ineligible because their father fathers were born in the Europe, right? Stupid idiots.
rsmith6621
(6,942 posts)..
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)I'll need to inspect it in person actually.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Her complaint is NOT one of the SIX 'pending' ballot challenges that are listed on pages 22 and 23 on the link in the OP.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)they were NOT filed by Democrats.
Goodnight
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The the citizenship of the 'parents' is what it being questioned in court in the ballot challenges.
Since the U.S. Constitution states 'natural born citizen' - that is what the GOPers are filing their complaint in regards to on Obama
The GOPers are saying that 'both' parents must be citizens.
In these two cases Obama's father wasn't and Mitt's father wasn't.
So, it seems like that should put a stop to the GOPer's b.s. (I hope)
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Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)With facts.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The ballot challenges have no merit, and will eventually be disposed of.
There is no need to "retaliate" against ineffective and absurd actions.
LittleViking
(2 posts)What would happen if a Democrat shot a crongressman of woman or blew up a fereral building like the Republicans have done. Its about time we labled the Republicans that are trying to tear down the American values as terrorists and treated them as such.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Treat Romney equally, or sustain a charge of racism.
lynne
(3,118 posts)- migrated to Mexico from the U.S. to start a branch of the Mormon church and his father was born in Mexico. When the media says "Mexican American" I think of someone with Latino/Mexican heritage. That's not the case here.
Either way, he needs to prove he was born in the US.
LittleViking
(2 posts)He did no migrate he fled prosecution.
onenote
(42,296 posts)Why do people think that our bringing up the birther issue is a good thing? Most of the country gets it that the birthers are nuts. So now we want to act nuts?
treestar
(82,383 posts)continue in their lack of concern in this case.
madinmaryland
(64,913 posts)Yes, his father was born there, but they were never actually citizens of Mexico. Willard's father, grandfather, and great-grandfather were all denied Mexican citizenship due to Mexican statutes that denied citizenship to American settlers and their offspring.
There were three generations that lived in Mexico, but were never citizens of Mexico.
UTUSN
(70,435 posts)NAO
(3,425 posts)Because we suspect he was actually born in Mexico? Is it possible he is a secret Catholic only pretending to be a Mormon?
politicallycorrect
(21 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)csziggy
(34,115 posts)George Romney, Willard's father, ran for President in 1968. While his non-US birth was mentioned, it was never a serious issue.
The Wikipedia article on George Romney is interesting - his political style reminds me a lot of his son! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney#1968_presidential_campaign
Best part: Governor Jim Rhodes of Ohio more memorably said, "Watching George Romney run for the presidency was like watching a duck try to make love to a football."
treestar
(82,383 posts)Mitt is therefore no a natural born citizen than Obama according to their theories. And has Mitt produced an original birth certificate? The birthers have a lot of nerve if they don't.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)In all honesty, no offense to any of the Chicanos out there. Just making fun of the incredible hypocrisy of the mainstream far right in this country. That's all(hopefully my ridiculing didn't just cross any lines). =)
opihimoimoi
(52,426 posts)Don't Worry...be Happy
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)it's times like this that I wish my OTHER laptop computer that had over 1000 Italian songs on it (that were not backed up) had not COMPLETELY crashed and is now totally useless !!!
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)You posted an Italian song and then changed it to something else!
I've been up all night drinking rum and coke but I 'caught' that !!!
opihimoimoi
(52,426 posts)Charlemagne
(576 posts)Because they think all real mexicans are dark. Just like all real Americans are white.
Corporate media will use this to try and lure the latino vote.