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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:35 AM Jan 2012

Ah finally, CNN is covering the FACT that Mitt Romney is Mexican-American

Last edited Fri Jan 13, 2012, 05:59 PM - Edit history (2)


I've been wondering when the media was going to start talking about the fact that Mitt's father was born in Mexico.

I few minutes ago I was watching the rerun of Erin Burnett on CNN.

They are comparing Mitt Romney with Bill Richardson as far as them both being Mexican-American.
Btw, Richardson's father was born in Nicaragua and his mother was the Mexican daughter of a Spanish father from Villaviciosa, Asturias, Spain and a Mexican mother.

Now 'maybe' the GOPers will stop talking about Obama's father being born in Kenya and questioning Obama's 'natural born' status - but probably not - and if not then hopefully Mitt's 'natural born' status will get some media attention too

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Right now there are currently 6 ballot challenges against President Obama (4 in Georgia, 2 in Texas), the complaints filed are basically saying that since Obama's father was born in Kenya and not a US citizen that Barack Obama is not a 'natural born citizen'. There was one other challenge filed and it was dismissed and now in the Appeals Court.

There's a LIST of them on this PDF link: PDF: http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/BIRTHER%20CASE%20LIST.pdf

On the link above TONS of birther court cases are listed on the first 20 pages,
and then starting on page 21 there's a separate list of 2012 ballot challenges.

EDITED TO ADD CNN ARTICLE BELOW:
Could Mitt Romney be America's first Hispanic president?
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/12/opinion/romney-hispanic-roots/index.html?npt=NP1

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Ah finally, CNN is covering the FACT that Mitt Romney is Mexican-American (Original Post) Tx4obama Jan 2012 OP
This is CNN's way of helping Romney get the Latino vote BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #1
Yep. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #3
Isn't it like saying Pik Botha ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #47
EXACTLY!! This Corporate Media is definitely in the tank for Mitt Romney, but needs to tread lightly Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #48
I agree that won't work - and I agree that this is CNN trying to make Romney "more diverse" karynnj Jan 2012 #50
Just a WAG but I'd bet if the press went to Galeana, Chihuahua, Mexico... Historic NY Jan 2012 #2
They said in the segment on CNN that Mitt still has living family in Mexico, Tx4obama Jan 2012 #4
Are they still polygamous? aquart Jan 2012 #26
FIFTY relatives in Casas Grandes,Chihuahu, Mexico. See video below Tx4obama Jan 2012 #6
OMG! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #8
Thanks for pandering to xenophobia. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #5
Has nothing to do with xenophobia. It has to do with fighting back on the Obama challenges Tx4obama Jan 2012 #7
Oooh. Democratic birther. Shall we pick out our Orly Tatz now or let one rise up from the ooze. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #11
So, you think that the dems shouldn't fight back against the GOPers that are questioning Tx4obama Jan 2012 #14
Not in this way, no. It only legitimizes their argument. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #17
The legal question is not if they are citizens .. Tx4obama Jan 2012 #20
Born in the USA. All others are naturilized unc70 Jan 2012 #42
I think you're missing the point of my OP n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #9
Romneys fled to Mexico to escape polygamy laws. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #10
Now that is a good point but only if his Mexican family maintains polygamy.. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #12
OMG! I could be related to this sumbitch! He's hypocritical as hell Ecumenist Jan 2012 #13
I Want To See Senior MITT Birth Certificate.... rsmith6621 Jan 2012 #15
I'm going to need to see his LONG FORM birth certificate. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #16
Really. You aspire to be the equivalent to Orly Tatz. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #19
Taitz has only a small part in this, her complaint was dismissed Tx4obama Jan 2012 #21
That only reveals that democrats are just as big as assholes as Tatz. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #23
Apparently you are misunderstanding this thread and the ballot challenges filed by the GOPers, Tx4obama Jan 2012 #24
LOL. Mitt was born in The USA. Tx4obama Jan 2012 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #22
There's a difference between 'neutralizing' a situation and tearing someone down n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #25
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. Butch up and battle it out. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #27
There is no "neutralizing" needed here jberryhill Jan 2012 #29
Republicans have been resorting to violance LittleViking Jan 2012 #31
Exactly. The birthers have two choices. treestar Jan 2012 #40
A bit confusing. His heritage is European. His grandfather - lynne Jan 2012 #28
Not migration he fled criminal prosecution LittleViking Jan 2012 #30
No he doesn't. onenote Jan 2012 #33
No, but we do want to show that the birthers are racists if they treestar Jan 2012 #39
I think it is a bit disengenuous to refer to Willard as Mexican-American. madinmaryland Jan 2012 #32
R#9 & K n/t UTUSN Jan 2012 #34
Shall we ask to see his birth certificate? NAO Jan 2012 #35
whats the big deal? politicallycorrect Jan 2012 #36
Republican birthers claim that Obama is not a citizen because his father was born in Kenya. AlinPA Jan 2012 #51
The real question is why wasn't George Romney's Mexican birth challenged when he ran for President? csziggy Jan 2012 #37
We ought to beat the drum on this treestar Jan 2012 #38
LOL. Papers please, mist...I mean, SENOR Romney. LMAO. =p AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #41
OMG.....Shades of East LA....Up in Smoke-esque opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #43
Oh my .... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #45
HEY !!! I saw what you did !!!! Tx4obama Jan 2012 #46
Tattle Tale will get no where wid me...LOL "wink" :o) opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #49
The white conservatives wont believe it Charlemagne Jan 2012 #44

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
1. This is CNN's way of helping Romney get the Latino vote
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:38 AM
Jan 2012

because the GOP have an abysmal record when it comes to treating Latinos with respect. Being the good GOP shills CNN has become, they're trying to regain some of those angry Latinos to vote for their guy against President Obama. Of course, Latinos need to understand Romney feels as Latino as David Duke. With Dubya, at least, he was able to make it look sincere.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
47. Isn't it like saying Pik Botha
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:21 AM
Jan 2012

(South Africa's UN representative at the height of apartheid violence) was "African"?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
48. EXACTLY!! This Corporate Media is definitely in the tank for Mitt Romney, but needs to tread lightly
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:45 AM
Jan 2012

There are a lot of southern conservatives who will stay home because they hate Romney. They hate Obama more, but they cannot vote for Mittens, either.

karynnj

(59,466 posts)
50. I agree that won't work - and I agree that this is CNN trying to make Romney "more diverse"
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jan 2012

but no Hispanic will think that the Romney ancestors having been American ex=pats in Mexico makes them Hispanic.

Did African Americans consider Teresa Heinz Kerry an African American? There was actually more justification for that as she did grow up in Africa. However, I think the fact that she protested apartheid in South Africa as a college student had more appeal than just being born there. She was born in Mozambique and became an American citizen after she married John Heinz. Kerry, like all Democrats, got the lion's share of black votes, but that was due to his record.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
2. Just a WAG but I'd bet if the press went to Galeana, Chihuahua, Mexico...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:43 AM
Jan 2012

they would find some Romney's buried there.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
5. Thanks for pandering to xenophobia.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:48 AM
Jan 2012

If you can't beat them on the issues them smear them as foreigners, right?

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
7. Has nothing to do with xenophobia. It has to do with fighting back on the Obama challenges
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:51 AM
Jan 2012

If one of the nutty judges rules against Obama on one of those ballot challenges then our side should file on Romney!

And it also highlights Romney's hypocrisy regarding immigration policy.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
14. So, you think that the dems shouldn't fight back against the GOPers that are questioning
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:03 AM
Jan 2012

Obama's 'natural born' status - this is a different issue than where Obama was born.

This has to do with the citizenship of the 'parents'.

In my opinion, the ISSUE of where the parents where born should have NOTHING to do with the 'natural born status' of a presidential candidate that was born in the USA.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
17. Not in this way, no. It only legitimizes their argument.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:09 AM
Jan 2012

Clearly, both Obama and Romney are full citizens of the United States no matter where there father's are born.

That is the high road.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
20. The legal question is not if they are citizens ..
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:13 AM
Jan 2012

the legal question is what's the definition of 'natural born' in regards to the wording in the U.S Constitution.

unc70

(6,088 posts)
42. Born in the USA. All others are naturilized
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 06:45 AM
Jan 2012

The Naturalization Act can only grant citizenship. The Act of 1790, whether deliberate or by accident, tries to bestow natural born citizen. The Act of 1795 repeals the Act of 1790, and natural born has not been used since.

Repubs legal "scholars" trying to prove McCain natural born and Obama not. Mccain's status was questioned during Repub primaries.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
10. Romneys fled to Mexico to escape polygamy laws.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:56 AM
Jan 2012

But Romney has no remorse for those who seek to escape economic disaster in mexico. That make sense.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
13. OMG! I could be related to this sumbitch! He's hypocritical as hell
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:02 AM
Jan 2012

The other side os hypocritical as hell too. Really? Because Obama's FATHER was born somewhere else, he iineligible for the presidency? So what they're really saying is that our first few presidents for ineligible because their father fathers were born in the Europe, right? Stupid idiots.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
21. Taitz has only a small part in this, her complaint was dismissed
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:17 AM
Jan 2012

Her complaint is NOT one of the SIX 'pending' ballot challenges that are listed on pages 22 and 23 on the link in the OP.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
24. Apparently you are misunderstanding this thread and the ballot challenges filed by the GOPers,
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:27 AM
Jan 2012

they were NOT filed by Democrats.

Goodnight

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
18. LOL. Mitt was born in The USA.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:10 AM
Jan 2012

The the citizenship of the 'parents' is what it being questioned in court in the ballot challenges.

Since the U.S. Constitution states 'natural born citizen' - that is what the GOPers are filing their complaint in regards to on Obama

The GOPers are saying that 'both' parents must be citizens.

In these two cases Obama's father wasn't and Mitt's father wasn't.

So, it seems like that should put a stop to the GOPer's b.s. (I hope)

Response to Tx4obama (Reply #18)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. There is no "neutralizing" needed here
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 09:57 AM
Jan 2012

The ballot challenges have no merit, and will eventually be disposed of.

There is no need to "retaliate" against ineffective and absurd actions.

LittleViking

(2 posts)
31. Republicans have been resorting to violance
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jan 2012

What would happen if a Democrat shot a crongressman of woman or blew up a fereral building like the Republicans have done. Its about time we labled the Republicans that are trying to tear down the American values as terrorists and treated them as such.

lynne

(3,118 posts)
28. A bit confusing. His heritage is European. His grandfather -
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:47 AM
Jan 2012

- migrated to Mexico from the U.S. to start a branch of the Mormon church and his father was born in Mexico. When the media says "Mexican American" I think of someone with Latino/Mexican heritage. That's not the case here.

Either way, he needs to prove he was born in the US.

onenote

(42,296 posts)
33. No he doesn't.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jan 2012

Why do people think that our bringing up the birther issue is a good thing? Most of the country gets it that the birthers are nuts. So now we want to act nuts?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
39. No, but we do want to show that the birthers are racists if they
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jan 2012

continue in their lack of concern in this case.

madinmaryland

(64,913 posts)
32. I think it is a bit disengenuous to refer to Willard as Mexican-American.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jan 2012

Yes, his father was born there, but they were never actually citizens of Mexico. Willard's father, grandfather, and great-grandfather were all denied Mexican citizenship due to Mexican statutes that denied citizenship to American settlers and their offspring.

There were three generations that lived in Mexico, but were never citizens of Mexico.

NAO

(3,425 posts)
35. Shall we ask to see his birth certificate?
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jan 2012

Because we suspect he was actually born in Mexico? Is it possible he is a secret Catholic only pretending to be a Mormon?

csziggy

(34,115 posts)
37. The real question is why wasn't George Romney's Mexican birth challenged when he ran for President?
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:31 PM
Jan 2012

George Romney, Willard's father, ran for President in 1968. While his non-US birth was mentioned, it was never a serious issue.

The Wikipedia article on George Romney is interesting - his political style reminds me a lot of his son! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney#1968_presidential_campaign

Best part: Governor Jim Rhodes of Ohio more memorably said, "Watching George Romney run for the presidency was like watching a duck try to make love to a football."

treestar

(82,383 posts)
38. We ought to beat the drum on this
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

Mitt is therefore no a natural born citizen than Obama according to their theories. And has Mitt produced an original birth certificate? The birthers have a lot of nerve if they don't.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
41. LOL. Papers please, mist...I mean, SENOR Romney. LMAO. =p
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jan 2012

In all honesty, no offense to any of the Chicanos out there. Just making fun of the incredible hypocrisy of the mainstream far right in this country. That's all(hopefully my ridiculing didn't just cross any lines). =)

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
45. Oh my ....
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:01 AM
Jan 2012

it's times like this that I wish my OTHER laptop computer that had over 1000 Italian songs on it (that were not backed up) had not COMPLETELY crashed and is now totally useless !!!




Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
46. HEY !!! I saw what you did !!!!
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:06 AM
Jan 2012

You posted an Italian song and then changed it to something else!

I've been up all night drinking rum and coke but I 'caught' that !!!


 

Charlemagne

(576 posts)
44. The white conservatives wont believe it
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:00 AM
Jan 2012

Because they think all real mexicans are dark. Just like all real Americans are white.

Corporate media will use this to try and lure the latino vote.

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