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LENNY0229

(185 posts)
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:00 PM Jan 2022

Anti-vax anti-science CovIDIOTS blather about their "liberties". What about OUR "liberties"??!!

These anti vax anti science CovIDIOTS are violating everyone else's rights!!

They are keeping the pandemic going.

They are cooking up new variants.

And then, when these FOOLS get sick with Covid they run to hospitals and deny others needed hospital beds.

What about everyone else's rights to health and needed hospital beds and to stop being inconvenienced all because of the CovIDIOTS???

No more coddling the CovIDIOTS!! They are the minority, and THEY are the problem! They are willfully IGNORANT and SELFISH!
I wish hospitals could send them home! IF THEY DIDN'T TRUST SCIENCE TO PREVENT THE ILLNESS, WHY SHOULD THEY TRUST SCIENCE TO CURE THEM OF IT??!!

I PRAISE brave doctors in private practice who have said, "NOT VAXXED? NO TREATMENT!" As well as businesses that have
strict vaccine requirements for their employees.

Enough of the "liberties" of the CovIDIOTS!! What about everyone else's "liberties" in this pandemic?

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Orrex

(63,154 posts)
1. Society has spoken
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:03 PM
Jan 2022

"Masks optional" means that the business will protect the unmasked fuckhead if anyone gives them shit about it.

It's easy to blame the antivax/no-mask fuckheads, and indeed they bear much of the blame, but businesses and the government at every level have also helped to exacerbate and prolong the pandemic.


Your liberty and mine are distant, trivial considerations.

 

LENNY0229

(185 posts)
2. I hear you on the one hand, but this goes to the issue of anti-vaxxers blathering about their
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jan 2022

"liberties" as their argument against getting vaxxed.

The main blame goes with those who CHOOSE to not get vaxxed and whine about their "liberites" and the DUMB politicians against vaccine requirements who also blather about their "rights".

Vaccination is the number one way to crush the pandemic, and too many are not doing it out of spite and stupidity.

And the rest of us, who did the right thing and got vaxxed, need to stress OUR rights when we are confronted with their DUMB arguments about "liberties."

The stuff about inconsistent business and government policies are good points too, but the main issue and the main thing keeping it going is anti-vax bullshit from the anti vaxxers and their anti vax asshole political leaders (i.e. GYM JORDAN) who blather about their "liberties". Piss on THEIR phony "liberties". What about OUR "liberties."?? And we need to say this!

Orrex

(63,154 posts)
8. Oh, well in that regard you're wholly correct
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jan 2022

A developed nation would impose stiff penalties on anyone who chooses not to vaccinate.

dickthegrouch

(3,168 posts)
9. A bunch of spineless politicians have spoken!
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jan 2022

Even the CDC has been bullied and coerced into saying things they didn't want to, or severely prematurely.

Except for a frightened few oligarchs and an innumerate populace, there is enough money to meet all current objectives with a little juggling.

The only thing missing from this pandemic response so far is the will and discipline to stick to the truth and and the plans.

Bring on the adults.

Lock everyone in their house for two weeks. (Yes, worldwide). Give everyone the (next) course of vaccination. Test everyone at the end of the two weeks. Quarantine for two more weeks if +ve. Return to work safely if -ve.

FAR cheaper and less trouble than the existing waves, new variants, and ridiculously foolish freedumbs.

JanMichael

(24,869 posts)
3. It is the old freedom to versus freedom from dilemma.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jan 2022

I want my freedom from their deadly selfishness. They want the freedom to be destructive to themselves which spills over to us.

USA USA USA!

 

LENNY0229

(185 posts)
5. I know all about right wing courts. Regardless of courts, I am talking about responding to their
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jan 2022

bullshit selfish stupid blathering about "liberties" in refusing to get vaxxed in a deadly pandemic, as well as places that have mask mandates, etc. Just as Dr. Fauci told GYM Jordan, "This is not a "liberities" thing, it is about keeping people safe from a deadly pandemic."

I don't give a shit what the courts say. I am talking about the argumentative rhetorical response
and asserting OUR rights to health and safety. The right wing Trump Humpers use the "liberties"
card all the time to rile their people up. It's a rhetorical political argument. We need to flip it
and argue for OUR "liberties". This is apart from whichever court decisions.

*** Even THIS right wing dominated Supreme Court also just upheld vax mandates for healthcare facilities workers,
so they don't even have a monopoly on that argument. Other courts have also upheld a variety of mandates.***

 

LENNY0229

(185 posts)
10. Yes, the OP is about the rhetorical, and NEEDED, response to those who BLATHER about "liberties"
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:15 AM
Jan 2022

when they refuse to get vaccinated or wear a mask. The point is not about legal technicalities. Courts indeed HAVE upheld SOME vaccine requirements, and we have had vaccine requirements for GENERATIONS for many things (school, college, some jobs, some overseas travel, military service, etc.).

When these SELFISH ANTI SCIENCE ANTI VAXXER blather away about their liberties when they refuse to take a
free effective vaccine, the rest of us need to assert OUR rights to be healthy and FREE from THEIR willfull ignorance and
THEM spreading of the virus and new variants. We need to make THEM accountable. They are GERM SPREADERS who are violating OUR rights. THEY are the ones taking up needed hospital beds. THEY ARE THE PROBLEM. (Yes, their right wing enablers are the problem too, but THEY are the MAIN problem.)

 

LENNY0229

(185 posts)
11. WE HAVE HAD VACCINE REQUIREMENTS FOR GENERATIONS.
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 07:19 AM
Jan 2022

For school, college, the military, certain overseas travel, certain jobs, etc. we have had COURT APPROVED vaccine mandates
across the states for GENERATIONS. So I also hammer the anti vaxxers with this fact all the time.

WE, THE RESPONSIBLE, DAMN WELL HAVE RIGHTS TOO! We need to ASSERT THEM, take away their "liberties" argument, and assert OUR RIGHT to be healthy, have healthy communities, to not be exposed to the new variants being cooked up by the unvaccinated, and to the hospital beds that THESE SELFISH FOOLS are taking up and needed by other people. WE are the MAJORITY and damn well need to start asserting OUR rights in this pandemc.

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