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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsProof regarding O'Keefe's latest, misleading editing job? See here:
Note - times are referring to the Youtube timer, not O'Keefe's.Most damning for O'Keefe - at roughly 17:20 minutes into the youtube video, O'Keefe CLEARLY inserts Moran's voice, his lips aren't moving. Yet, O'Keefe inserts the words "yeah a bank statement" in response to a question. The comment was (seemingly) lifted from another portion of the video, where Moran is advising on legitimate documentation. J.O. also changes the dialog, (which is again apparent) as the movement of Moran's lips do NOT match the words. It's the same thing O'Keefe did to Juan Vera. The face and lips were blurred and words apparently inserted. Not to mention, one can not see the interviewers face/words. The entire interview portion could be edited in.
WTF more do people need, to demonstrate that O'Keefe is a slimy fraud?
Moran leads the conversation back to legit GOTV efforts, over and over again. At 20 minutes in, Moran discourages the fool saying polls will be ready to enforce voter protection and are "cracking down on" fraud. He ends by suggesting again that the interviewer make phone calls.
The worst thing Moran did was perhaps humor the fraudster. While I wish he wouldn't have done so, it's a huge stretch to assert that Moran was involved in a conspiracy to commit voter fraud.
IMO, the only fraud involved in the questionable video, is O'Keefe.

Beaverhausen
(24,609 posts)I won't watch the vid so I can't comment on what he did or didn't say, but really, it isn't fraud until someone votes twice.
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)Though I don't blame you for not watching.
Beaverhausen
(24,609 posts)but we should still ignore this crap, IMHO.
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)I refuse to let J.O. mislead and then attempt to address an issue when it's too late. I plan to actually watch O'Keefe's videos so I can immediately defend his victims, when appropriate.
Bennyboy
(10,440 posts)I friended him a while back (keep your friends close and your enemies even closer) and he posed this. I just posted it. thanks.
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)... I think.
Baitball Blogger
(49,121 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)They don't go to jail. Ever.
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)
Kindly Refrain
(423 posts)in Arlington. Is O'Keefe skulking around his old area?
Lightbulb_on
(315 posts)Anything other than "I refuse to have anything to do with this and I believe what you are trying to do is illegal" is proof enough that this guy isn't smart enough to run a campaign.
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)somehow?
Lightbulb_on
(315 posts)Do you think it was dubbed or something?
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)That is my belief.
That makes literally zero sense.
It was a long conversation both in the edited and unedited versions and would be easily shown as a fake and would also be a massive win for Moran (both of them.)
Occam's razor...
Which one makes more sense?
a) A political campaign manager has some crappy ethics and isn't that bright
or
b) A video producer, who knows that everything he puts out will be examined frame by frame, would release an easily detectable and career ending film
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)Read carefully, this time.
Suggesting O'Keefe has a reputable career, is a joke.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)and he's been proven to be a fraud on at least 2 occasions and has been convicted of illegally trying to tamper with a Senators phone, I'd say he has exactly ZERO credibility. Not to mention the fact that the guy is a fucking freeloading asshole who begs for money of the internet so he can make these pathetic videos. A leech, a moocher, a taker, pick your favorite GOP name for those who don't do shit.
Maybe he should just go and get a real job.
JI7
(91,303 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Why wouldn't he have stated that he never said that? Look, what Moran did and said was pretty clearly not illegal, but it was stupid.
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)Why are you promoting and defending O'Keefe, here?
cali
(114,904 posts)despicably putting words in my mouth? Oh, never mind. I forgot who I was talking to here. How par for YOUR course.
Disgusting but predictable.
You're the one (who appears to be) advancing the agenda of O'Keefe, not me.
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mzmolly
(51,893 posts)Why would you ask this question, were it not to suggest that the resignation proves the video/audio was not altered?
We agree that some of what Moran said was stupid. People are victimized for being polite, all too often. But I will not join in blaming the victim.
cry baby
(6,792 posts)mzmolly
(51,893 posts)
cry baby
(6,792 posts)It's a brilliant takedown of the video.
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)Thanks for the complement.
I find all one has to do is actually watch the videos, in the fullest possible form and the editing/splicing will be clear. Problem is, most don't take the time to do so, which is understandable.
cry baby
(6,792 posts)Thank you.
mzmolly
(51,893 posts)cry baby.
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