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Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:24 AM

Do not be forlorn people

"Hey, did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Belushi. No we didn't.

We are the Democratic party, the patriotic party fighting for democracy.

There are people here trying to divide us, trying to make us fight with one another.

Think about this; we are all for holding the people behind the coup responsible, every fucking one of us.

I say so what if I want DOJ to do more and someone else feels everything is going at the exact right speed. So fucking what? I don't feel any need at all to chastise people who feel that our DOJ is doing a fantastic job, I respect their opinion, as a matter of fact I hope they are right. On the flip side of the coin so what if people here like me expect Merrick Garland to do more, is that really a bad thing folks?

We are all in agreement, we want to see people held accountable, we want to see justice. Stop fighting with one another, we are all on the same page.

What happened with the arrests of the Oaf Freepers is an example of a fantastic job done by Merrick Garland, people aren't being charged with trespassing now but with seditious conspiracy. This may lead to taking down the people who were behind this, the people at the Willard Hotel, people like Bannon and Roger Stone.

I feel what happened yesterday in Michigan may be more significant. The AG of Michigan was ready to bring charges against the people who signed fake electoral college documents when she realized this went on in 4 other states which she feels is a conspiracy to overthrow our government. She filed a criminal referral with her regional US attorney, so now the Feds are obligated to pursue this.

These people who signed fake documents are going to be hit with serious jail time. These people are not unwashed Magats, one of them will flip and when they do it will lead us to the inner ring of the coup, right to the top to the planners of the coup. If I were Jeffrey Clarke or John Eastman I would be hiring a bodyguard right now. These people are going down as malaise reminds us and the shit is going to hit the fan right about election time.

Keep the faith and stay united. Everyone here wants the same end goal, don't argue with one another, argue the issues.

Peace.

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Reply Do not be forlorn people (Original post)
gab13by13 Friday OP
Tommymac Friday #1
Scrivener7 Friday #2
phylny Friday #3
boston bean Friday #4
yesphan Friday #7
gab13by13 Friday #8
boston bean Friday #9
lastlib Friday #10
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Klondike Kat Friday #5
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gab13by13 Friday #19
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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:37 AM

1. Thanks for this OP. Well spoken. Solidarity! nt

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:37 AM

2. Nice. Thank you for saying this.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:45 AM

3. Thank you!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:48 AM

4. Maybe I am missing sarcasm or some other point and I hate to be nit picky but

Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, no?

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Response to boston bean (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:53 AM

7. It's a line

from the movie "Animal House".

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Response to boston bean (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:54 AM

8. That's why I put in quotations,

it came from the movie Animal House (right) which John Belushi starred in. He gave a rousing speech to his frat members who had just lost their fraternity house.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:55 AM

9. That is what I thought maybe. Cause it was attributed to Belushi

But wasn’t sure it was that Belushi.

Thank you.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:56 AM

10. (Animal House reference)



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Response to lastlib (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:59 AM

12. I am now part of the joke for not getting the joke!

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Response to boston bean (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:27 PM

53. I'm with you,

as I was rather appalled that the OP was saying the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor....

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Response to boston bean (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:02 AM

14. I didn't catch the pop culture reference either. I thought Belushi was a cute way of saying BS!

Somehow I never saw Animal House.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:49 AM

5. Very well said!

N/T

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:52 AM

6. I am more encouraged today than ever,

People need to realize that the AG of Michigan has been working on this case for a year, and no one knew anything about it. See I am using the argument that we don't know what DOJ is doing. She was at the point of deciding what to charge these people with which is well along in the investigation. She has a years' worth of investigation she will turn over to the Feds. I guarantee these people are going to flip. We are going to find out who organized the fake electoral college documents in at least 5 states.

Thank goodness for the Michigan AG to realize the seriousness of what was happening. Those 2 brave women in Michigan, the SOS and AG may turn out to be the people who bring down the coup planners.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 12:46 PM

50. Our attorney general is truly a gift to Michigan.

She's brilliant and relentless and not intimidated. So is our governor.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 06:40 PM

54. start at the bottom of the pyramid and keep chipping away.

the people who signed those forged docs really screwed up and are going to squeal the most. if some were reluctant who did the persuading? were any calls made from the WH to persuade?

people warning of revolution and that this is going too slow got to remember stone and bannon etc and the others involved a lot of the more serious knuckleheads and now some are going to jail and some will squeal on each other and many will blame trump and his cronies for causing them to expose themselves and their little private armies, getting them on the radar, and getting all their favorite weapons confiscated. there are plenty of extremist idiots and assholes with guns but this insurrection shook out a lot of the crap

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:58 AM

11. Well done, you are 100% correct, this OPed must be circulated around DU

Yes, many of us want results faster, seeing November 2022 approaching does send shivers up the spine when things have not been resolved and the criminals are not being held accountable. All those republican criminals must be indicted and prevented from running again. I am an optimist, so I am convinced we will see the buffoon trump behind bars this year.

Lets hope Garland has just opened the jar and we can see more to come.

Our job is to make sure that those who are on our side got out to vote in November, that we get a real majority on both houses, that we send many of the republicans to find other jobs away from office.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:01 AM

13. Now this is a post that I won't hit the

Trash this thread button. I will not read any posts that mainly are doom and gloom threads. We are not defeatists. We may lose some battles, but in the end we WILL win the war.

Hitler and Mussolini had their days in the spotlight, but in the end they were defeated as all dictators are eventually.

Good always defeats evil, it may take time but it always is defeated.

I highly recommend this post.

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Response to Butterflylady (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:17 AM

19. You can be our Bluto,

is that how his name was spelled?

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 06:20 AM

59. John "Bluto" Blutarsky

After finishing his time in the Army, Bluto married Mandy Pepperidge and became a Senator, eventually they became the President and First Lady of the United States.

In 2001, the United States Library of Congress deemed Animal House "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant" and selected it for preservation in the National Film Registry.
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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:03 AM

15. K&R Solidarity!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:07 AM

16. We will win

We will win in the end. Giving up only guarantees a loss. We need to keep pushing the voting protections. With enough sustained pressure, something will break our way.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:12 AM

17. Thank you for this, gab13by13!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:15 AM

18. Thanks for the pep talk - needed it.

I am in the Garland-skeptic group, but beginning to see a tiny crack of daylight. I will remain patient with those who are happy with the leisurely pace; none of us actually gets to influence it anyway.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:27 AM

22. Merrick Garland is a good man,

I looked up his bio, he fought for the little guy, he did an enormous amount of good in his life. He is being thrust into a damn scary situation. It isn't people here at DU who put any pressure on him but he got a lot of pressure from former Justice department officials to act. I feel that the Oaf Freepers flipping and I guarantee the people who signed forged documents are going to flip will change the narrative. People are going to see what Trump planned to do and Americans are not going to like it. People on Fox are not going to be able to say that 1/6 wasn't that bad, people are going to see that it was Republicans who committed fraud in the last election.

I watched the Michigan AG last night and she pointed out that the people who fraudulently signed their names as electors were the loudest voices claiming that the 2020 election was rigged while they were the ones doing the rigging.

I see big cracks in the Big Lie, it is going to be shattered.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:33 AM

27. I don't think any amount of proof will convince the Trumpies.

But I don't care, as long as Trump and his cronies get locked up until they can do no more harm.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:53 AM

47. Mark Twain said it best, regarding stubborn morons

"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."
-- Attributed (falsely?) to Mark Twain

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:18 AM

20. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:21 AM

21. Sound advice and like all sound advice, the dickens to follow.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:27 AM

23. Thank you!

I really needed this!💕💕

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:31 AM

24. It will definitely get Stone...

although, I'm still sure many of these people are going to flee, (Stone, Bannon and probably Trump.)




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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:32 AM

25. Thanks. Perhaps yesterday was a big turning point for justice. May many more follow up to Orangeboy

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:32 AM

26. Yes, we need more Merrick Garland appreciation threads.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:41 AM

28. One more thing to be encouraged about,

My little thread will pale in comparison to what the select committee is going to roll out on prime time TV.

The select committee can't indict anyone, but it can damn well show the people who need to be indicted.

The narrative is so important and cannot be underestimated. We need to make the narrative that the people involved in 1/6 were traitors, that's it, that's all we need to do. The narrative needs to be that the GQP backs traitors who are against the United States government. The narrative needs to be that the Democratic party is the patriotic party that is fighting to save our democracy.

This is what we need to do.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:56 AM

29. Very nice oped. The lower animals in the coup food chain don't necessarily all lead to

higher ups in the fascist party…lot of the food comes from Twitter and fb…electoral criminal voter fraud by proxy of social media brainwashing.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:00 AM

30. Totally agree. But, I do worry about voting rights and a corrupted SCOTUS

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:02 AM

31. Great post!

I needed some encouragement this morning. Thank you for providing it, gab13by13!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:15 AM

32. Thanks for the pep talk!

I'm old enough to remember a lot of situations that looked dire but improved later. So I'm not giving up hope.

And I've stopped listening to much of the commentary on cable news, instead relying on music to help me feel energized again when the punditry is operating as a maelstrom to drag us all down.

As for disagreements here -- DUers have always disagreed, on lots of topics (think of the Primaries forum). But from what I've seen over nearly 20 years here, most of us remember there's much more uniting us than dividing us.

So yes, keep the faith!

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #32)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:33 AM

34. Democrats get accused of not getting their messages out,

but Democrats are behind the 8 ball in that regards. The MSM is owned and managed by the right, and not just FOX. There has been a 3 month long narrative in the MSM that claims that president Biden is failing, including bogus polls.

I am optimistic because I believe the narrative can swing our way as people become aware that what Trump and his GQP allies tried to do is un-American and treasonous. The shift needs to be made that the Democratic party is the patriotic party fighting to preserve our democracy.

These traitors need to be scorned, need to be made toxic so that the MSM has no choice but to condemn them.

In the bible people with leprosy had to say "unclean," when approaching anyone, maybe we can get to the point where GQP politicians have to say, "traitor" when approaching anyone?

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:09 AM

41. Thanks for what you said, I like your spirit & thinking. We

are indeed outmatched in the media, it's serious, poison. But onward we go, fight to protect democracy!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:32 AM

33. always believe

thank you. Your words can help to shore up the weak backbones.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:36 AM

35. Great post, thanks for it!

If we want to save our democracy we MUST stay united.

Our enemies will stay united & they're formidable.

And we MUST out-vote them. If we fail to GOTV because we're too busy complaining about Merrick Garland or any other Democrat, or because we're too forlorn or despondent to muster the enthusiasm to GOTV with all our energy, Rethugs will win & it will be our own fault.

PLEASE don't let that happen folks! We've got a country to save!

United we stand, divided we fall.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:40 AM

36. How sad,

it was a Republican president who said, "united we stand, divided we fall." The Republican party is no more.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:45 AM

37. It is a balancing act: Facing reality and having hope.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:52 AM

38. Good post.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 10:55 AM

39. I needed to read this this morning

Thank you!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:08 AM

40. Great post gab13by13 - Thank you.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:22 AM

42. Sorry too late

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #42)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:36 AM

45. Luv you man.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:28 AM

43. Like I always say, you have to cut off the head of the snake.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:35 AM

44. We can argue our differences and still never forget that we still support each other.

Support doesn't require agreement on how we get there.


There are no "better" Dems than other Dems.

On any Dem's worst day, the ones I disagree with the most are still better than any damn cucaracha Republican on their best pendejo day.

We are live-and-let-live, win-win people.

Somos Democratas juntos, diferentes pero unidos.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:37 AM

46. Right on

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 12:14 PM

48. Happy 100th K&R. Right on!

Despair and division is their goal. We can differ, argue our points, even demand things we’re passionate about, but to extrapolate destruction of the country out of our relative ignorance and their constant lies is to give in and make the likelihood of their success far greater.

Bless Blutarsky’s addled heart. He had it right. As do you.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 12:38 PM

49. So Garland is a good man.

Last edited Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:13 PM - Edit history (1)

He is not lazy, not incompetent, doesn't have alterior motives, doesn't impede the investigation, doesn't put our country and our democracy in peril, doesn't limit his investihation to low hanging fruit and small fish, doesn't need to be fired, doesn't need to be replaced... Did I get it all right? Yes?

Then, welcome back from your rabbit hole, Gab!

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Response to Beastly Boy (Reply #49)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:23 PM

55. ...

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:00 PM

51. I think this exact thing all the time!

We can debate and discuss without be angry.

We can ignore trolls instead of feeding them. Just hit alert.

We can be slow to alert on regular posters just trying to have conversation. Let’s give the benefit of the doubt.

We are better than armchair activists. We are REAL activists. And as activists we need to ATTRACT people to our side of things. Not repel people by being bombastic know it alls.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:25 PM

52. Thank you for a positive post

The situation in Michigan sounds interesting. I hope we’ll be able to follow reports on it.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:38 PM

56. K&R n/t

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:41 PM

57. Not to sound cheesy but...

TEAM WORK MAKES THE DREAMWORK!!!!
UNITED WE STAND... DIVIDED WE FALL!!!
Never forget.... We Democrats are on the right side of history!!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 01:26 AM

58. Thank you for reminding us of all these things!

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