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helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:29 PM Jan 2022

I feel so bad for Biden

He is such a good man but everything is falling apart. I think it started with the media coverage of Afghanistan. That has hurt him permanently. Then those two @ssholes in the Senate are blocking legislative achievements. Now Covid is out of control because of the people that won’t get vaccinated or mask up and he is blamed. Lack of Covid tests and he is blamed. Now the Supreme blocks his attempt to keep workers safe. All of it sucks. Then to know that the party that supports domestic terrorists will likely be in charge after midterms makes me ill. I just feel so down today. Biden is doing everything in his power to fix everything. The only thing I think Biden got really wrong is Merrill Garland as AG and that CDC director. Oh and also the way we withdrew from Afghanistan.

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I feel so bad for Biden (Original Post) helpisontheway Jan 2022 OP
I'm so depressed nt XanaDUer2 Jan 2022 #1
Got Your Shots In In Your Last Two Sentences Of Your Post - Huh?.....nt global1 Jan 2022 #2
Clearly OP's reason for posting it in the first place. lamp_shade Jan 2022 #11
His poll numbers are sliding True Dough Jan 2022 #3
It's a discouraging time, to be sure. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #17
The good news is True Dough Jan 2022 #23
Ah, sorry to disagree, we in Wisconsin have the absolute worst Senator, (outside of Manchin & Sinema a kennedy Jan 2022 #28
So are the GQP's numbers . .. Lovie777 Jan 2022 #18
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #4
yawn nt msongs Jan 2022 #5
Seee ya! BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #6
Welcome to DU? LowerManhattanite Jan 2022 #7
Pres Biden is an adult . . . Lovie777 Jan 2022 #8
That is what I think as well PatSeg Jan 2022 #42
its merrick not merrill and did u notice the indictments today? and the withdrawal msongs Jan 2022 #9
whenever I ask Trump humpers how many soldiers died in Afghanistan while he was prez Skittles Jan 2022 #31
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #10
Get fucked vercetti2021 Jan 2022 #14
Just say "Enjoy your brief stay." Hekate Jan 2022 #21
Merrill? Huh? BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #12
We had few options regarding withdrawal from Afghanistan. secondwind Jan 2022 #13
I agree mvd Jan 2022 #19
I agree. The media was awful. Nonstop bashing! 😕 And he is a very special helpisontheway Jan 2022 #35
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jan 2022 #30
You're upset about Garland NOW? brooklynite Jan 2022 #15
Lol. nt BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #16
He hasn't got one break. The media is tearing him apart and so book_worm Jan 2022 #20
i disagree. He got a break. Joe Biden was elected President of the United States Stuart G Jan 2022 #24
This!! He can handle this..we need to step up NOW and help PortTack Jan 2022 #25
I said from the get-go that his task is surely as great as Lincoln's. Grasswire2 Jan 2022 #22
On one side we have lies, misinformation and dirty tricks. On the other side we don't need passivity Doodley Jan 2022 #26
He's doing the right things, but he's not doing them in a smart way Azathoth Jan 2022 #27
Good points..thing is with the BBB manchin let them believe he would eventually be onboard and PortTack Jan 2022 #29
the idea he did not know the Taliban would take over immediately boggles my mind Skittles Jan 2022 #32
The intelligence he relied on did not indicate the takeover would be that soon. PortTack Jan 2022 #36
LOL Skittles Jan 2022 #37
I never said they would be trained...never PortTack Jan 2022 #39
well I knew it Skittles Jan 2022 #43
I feel... myohmy2 Jan 2022 #33
It is bdamomma Jan 2022 #34
The Supreme Court has ruled Turbineguy Jan 2022 #38
Once gas prices go down, inflation settles in and covid is over he will be fine. Job growth is Quixote1818 Jan 2022 #40
Unlike you, I don't feel bad for Joe canetoad Jan 2022 #41
Misplaced sympathy is equivalent to a putdown gulliver Jan 2022 #44
Snap out of it Saoirse9 Jan 2022 #45

True Dough

(17,296 posts)
3. His poll numbers are sliding
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jan 2022

and most of what you wrote in the OP is fair. And yet I'm sure this will be "alerted" by some overbearing DUer who claims you're bashing a Democratic figure.

EDIT: It's Merrick Garland, and he's not proven to be a mistake yet...

True Dough

(17,296 posts)
23. The good news is
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:02 PM
Jan 2022

We're still a ways off from mid-terms so hopefully there's a reversal of fortunes. Although it's hard to see with the ReThugs remaining as obstructionist as ever and the filibuster/Manchin/Sinema conundrum.

But I hold on to hope.

a kennedy

(29,642 posts)
28. Ah, sorry to disagree, we in Wisconsin have the absolute worst Senator, (outside of Manchin & Sinema
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:21 PM
Jan 2022

ALREADY HAVING HIS RE-ELECTION ADS ON NOW!!!!!!!! 🤬 🤮 🤬 🤮 🤬

Response to helpisontheway (Original post)

Lovie777

(12,226 posts)
8. Pres Biden is an adult . . .
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jan 2022

he can handled it. Corporate media is covering up for 1/6/2021. Stay tuned.

As to the matters above we will make it thru.

PatSeg

(47,361 posts)
42. That is what I think as well
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 11:54 PM
Jan 2022

Biden knew none of this was going to be easy. He has been around long enough to know there will be failures, as well as successes, but you just pick yourself up and try again.

All those years in the Senate, as well as eight years as Vice President, he saw his fair share of losses. It comes with the job and meanwhile there have been plenty of wins. Looking back, it has been an incredible year and I believe history will remember this president well. Republicans? Not so much.

msongs

(67,381 posts)
9. its merrick not merrill and did u notice the indictments today? and the withdrawal
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jan 2022

from afghanistan was negotiated by trump, and went about as well as one could expect given the conditions

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
31. whenever I ask Trump humpers how many soldiers died in Afghanistan while he was prez
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:42 PM
Jan 2022

NONE of them know it was 60

Response to helpisontheway (Original post)

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
13. We had few options regarding withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:45 PM
Jan 2022

Trump cut a deal with the Taliban, he also removed 15,000 troops, leaving a scant 2,500, he also opened the jails and released 5,000 hardened criminals into the general population. There’s more, but you can see now that Biden had to move quickly.

Garland issued some subpoenas today, if I remember correctly.

mvd

(65,169 posts)
19. I agree
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jan 2022

We needed to get out of Afghanistan - and thanks to Trump, there was no clean way to do it. The media had their own interests in the conflict and unfairly piled on.

President Biden’s a very good man. I think for the most part, he’s doing the best he can under the circumstances.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
35. I agree. The media was awful. Nonstop bashing! 😕 And he is a very special
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:59 PM
Jan 2022

man. It is nice to have a truly good person in the White House that wants to do the best thing for every single person. We did not have that for four very long years.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
20. He hasn't got one break. The media is tearing him apart and so
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:53 PM
Jan 2022

is the Dem party in the form of Manchin and Sinema who have done more to bring him down than the GOP as a whole.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
24. i disagree. He got a break. Joe Biden was elected President of the United States
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jan 2022

And that ..."so called break" may save this country's future.
Joe is the perfect person with guts, experience, knowledge, and sensitivity for this time in the history of the U.S.A.
We are very lucky to have Joe as the lead man in the show..(and that last sentence, you can take to the bank)

PortTack

(32,751 posts)
25. This!! He can handle this..we need to step up NOW and help
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:11 PM
Jan 2022

Be a Stacey Abrams..get mad ..then get busy and get involved!! Michelle Obama has teamed up with Stacey and says they are going to register a million ppl.

We all must do our very best ...volunteer, donate and VOTE!!

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
22. I said from the get-go that his task is surely as great as Lincoln's.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:57 PM
Jan 2022

And that was before the pandemic and the insurrection.

Doodley

(9,078 posts)
26. On one side we have lies, misinformation and dirty tricks. On the other side we don't need passivity
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:13 PM
Jan 2022

in the messaging. This isn't the time let lies and conspiracy theories fester. If we don't have a strategy to at least try to convince people that Trump is bad for America or even that it's a good idea to wear a mask, then we are destined lose to fascism no matter what good we do or what bills we pass. It's been said a million times, but we can't keep taking a butter knife to a gunfight.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
27. He's doing the right things, but he's not doing them in a smart way
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:15 PM
Jan 2022

He's *GOT* to get a real media/messaging/PR apparatus put together quick. Jen Psaki is not enough. He's old-school, but he's got to realize that in the 21st century, the campaign doesn't stop on election night, it just shifts into Phase 2. And the media is not your friend just because you're a decent person unlike Trump. The only serious campaign-style messaging we're getting is coming from a handful of Dems in Congress.

He's also got to get some clear-eyed realists who can make tough calls. For instance:

His advisors should have told him to pull the plug on Build Back Better months ago. Inflation was skyrocketing, covid wasn't going away, and increasing numbers of people thought the country was going hard in the wrong direction. They weren't in a mood to watch the government spend 11 months paralyzed in a web of daily brain droppings from two idiots from Arizona and West Virgina. Biden should have accepted that BBB was dead, taken those two to his office, gotten them to agree to *something*, then told Dems they had to swallow it and move on. DU and the left would have howled hysterically, but solid messaging would have meant that we could have declared a win and freed ourselves up to focus on other issues. A minor compromise victory is much easier to market than a catastrophic defeat.

Afghanistan is another example. His team should have expected the withdrawal to be a massive PR problem. There should have been weeks of aggressive messaging and talking points being hammered home over and over before it happened. And there should have been a battery of surrogates -- Executive branch, Congressional, and private sector -- who were prepped to immediately do damage control after it happened. Standing there with a confused "What's all this?" expression was the absolute worst possible image they could have conveyed when the media dogpile began. It was Bowe Bergdahl times a million.


PortTack

(32,751 posts)
29. Good points..thing is with the BBB manchin let them believe he would eventually be onboard and
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:25 PM
Jan 2022

Fooled a lot of very politically savvy ppl. The sick part was not only was he never on board, he burned up a lot of time yuck yucking it up on the senate floor with colleagues from his preferred party!

President Biden has more than any President since possibly Lincoln or FDR to deal with. Despite his years of experience he let his belief that ppl are inherently good get in the way...JMHO. This is his downfall..sorry to say maybe it once would have worked. Not in today’s toxic political environment. Hopefully his advisers will push him in other directions

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
32. the idea he did not know the Taliban would take over immediately boggles my mind
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:43 PM
Jan 2022

what part of: the Afghan "army" STILL wasn't trained after TWENTY YEARS did Biden not get? It was NEVER going to end well.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
37. LOL
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:01 PM
Jan 2022

talking to ANY SOLDIER WHO SERVED THERE was all it would take

* I heard it many times from the soldiers I sent care packages to - that army would NEVER be trained

PortTack

(32,751 posts)
39. I never said they would be trained...never
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 11:27 PM
Jan 2022

What I said was the intelligence did not lead them to believe the Taliban would take over in a matter of hours

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
43. well I knew it
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 12:20 AM
Jan 2022

common fucking sense - in the end some of our soldiers "training" Afghan soldiers were not even BORN when 9/11 happened

myohmy2

(3,154 posts)
33. I feel...
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:47 PM
Jan 2022

...your pain...

...it's a tough time...

...let's hope we can turn it around...

...hang in there...

bdamomma

(63,822 posts)
34. It is
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:51 PM
Jan 2022

very discouraging, but we are dealing with treasonous traitors and those like Manchin and Sinema are making millions and don't give a crap.

All this shit is left over from that orange blob.

Turbineguy

(37,312 posts)
38. The Supreme Court has ruled
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:25 PM
Jan 2022

it's not illegal to be stupid (supporting republicans).

But they have not yet made it illegal to be smart.

Quixote1818

(28,926 posts)
40. Once gas prices go down, inflation settles in and covid is over he will be fine. Job growth is
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 11:29 PM
Jan 2022

booming and wages have been pushed up. He needs to get some things done that will impact regular Americans in a way they notice. Reagan had similar numbers around midterms, as did Clinton and they ended up in a pretty strong position. He is still higher than Trump was 95% of the time.

canetoad

(17,148 posts)
41. Unlike you, I don't feel bad for Joe
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 11:35 PM
Jan 2022

He is a career politician who has realised his dream; the ultimate political heights in the US.

This is what the man spent 30 or 40 years preparing. It's his third (?) attempt and I am so grateful that this good man eventually fulfilled his ambition. He worked for it. He deserves it.

I think you are selling Joe short with your misplaced sympathy and commiserations. I'd imagine that NO politician envisions a smooth and conflict free path to their policy ends. Joe knew this. He knew who preceded him and the toxic sludge he was inheriting.

If there was ever a politician for a time, it is Joe Biden for NOW. He's a guy who knows the ropes. Make yourself worthy of him.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
44. Misplaced sympathy is equivalent to a putdown
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 12:28 AM
Jan 2022

Biden's fine.

And none of the things you suggest he got wrong are wrong.

Saoirse9

(3,676 posts)
45. Snap out of it
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 07:08 PM
Jan 2022

You’re acting as if we have already lost and midterms are 11 months away.

Go look in the mirror slap yourself in the face and quit doom posting.

FFS ya big baby. We haven’t yet begun to fight.

I hate defeatist posts like this.

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