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Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:10 AM

And you believed it all

They told you that Covid was a hoax
They told you it would disappear in the spring
They told you it was no worse than the flu
They told you that you could cure it by injecting disinfectants
They told you that you could treat it with horse de-wormer
They told you children were immune
They told you the vaccine was fatal

And you believed it all.

They told you the election was 'stolen'
They told you they had the 'evidence'
They told you that their audits would show it
They told you that their lawyers could prove it in court

And you believed it all.

They told you January 6 was 'just another tourist day' at the Capitol
They told you it was BLM, antifa, and the Democrats who rioted
They told you it was the FBI staging a false flag operation
They told you it was a peaceful protest
They even told you it actually never happened

And you believed it all.

If you've ever wondered why intelligent people think RWers are gullible fools, consider all of the above. It only takes a modicum of common sense to understand that only those with NO common sense believe in stories that change every day, in 'facts' that are often contradictory, or in an endless litany of predictions that never come to fruition.

Mike Lindell et al have yet to produce any evidence of a stolen election, Giuliani and Powell lost all of their court cases, prominent anti-vaxxers have died of Covid, and those who know what happened on January 6th are refusing to even discuss that knowledge, no less testify about it under oath.

It truly boggles the mind that anyone with a functioning brain can continue to ignore the obvious - but then, I'm not a member of the party that believes in Jewish Space Lasers, liberals eating children sacrificed in the basement of a DC pizza place, or drinking my own urine while awaiting JFK Jr. to resurrect himself from the dead in order to run as Trump's vice-president in 2024.

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Reply And you believed it all (Original post)
NanceGreggs Jan 2022 OP
leftyladyfrommo Jan 2022 #1
OldBaldy1701E Jan 2022 #18
no_hypocrisy Jan 2022 #2
Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #28
OMGWTF Jan 2022 #42
Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #45
monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #46
pink Jan 2022 #48
OMGWTF Jan 2022 #39
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #3
NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #7
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #24
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #25
OMGWTF Jan 2022 #44
Joinfortmill Jan 2022 #4
Chin music Jan 2022 #5
OldBaldy1701E Jan 2022 #20
Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #6
sop Jan 2022 #8
Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #29
BSdetect Jan 2022 #9
childfreebychoice Jan 2022 #11
Trueblue Texan Jan 2022 #16
OldBaldy1701E Jan 2022 #22
NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #12
The Jungle 1 Jan 2022 #10
Tommymac Jan 2022 #37
moondust Jan 2022 #13
NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #14
moondust Jan 2022 #15
multigraincracker Jan 2022 #17
Ohioboy Jan 2022 #19
OldBaldy1701E Jan 2022 #23
Tommymac Jan 2022 #38
OldBaldy1701E Jan 2022 #47
Glamrock Jan 2022 #21
70sEraVet Jan 2022 #26
panader0 Jan 2022 #27
Paladin Jan 2022 #30
Hieronymus Phact Jan 2022 #31
Tommymac Jan 2022 #41
niyad Jan 2022 #32
dwayneb Jan 2022 #33
calimary Jan 2022 #34
Mr.Bill Jan 2022 #35
Richard58 Jan 2022 #36
malaise Jan 2022 #40
Tommymac Jan 2022 #43

Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:14 AM

1. I don't think most Trumpians ate that introspective.

They just turn off the parts that don't make sense.

At least that has been my experience. I don't think it has ever occurred to them what affect what they are espousing would have on their daily lives. They like houses and electricity and heat and air conditioning. They like living in their subdivision where they send their kids to good public schools. And on and on.

Even the most radical like their trucks and being able to drive on roads

They simply haven't thought this through. They should look at how most Russians live.

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Response to leftyladyfrommo (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:38 AM

18. Well since so many of them are willing to deny the Russian interference

and, in some cases, even trying to act like they are our friends, I say we need to send them over there to find out! (Oh, and it will take little less than an act of diety for them to get back in.)

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:19 AM

2. This demographic

1. doesn't think
2. doesn't want to think
3. wants someone else to think for them.

It's that easy.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:13 AM

28. The Twitter and FB demographic have merged with hate radio, hate TV...all hustled along

by hate speech run rampant in public and politics…mostly in nations without hate speech laws.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 03:35 PM

42. Fox "News" is banned in Australia and NZ because it's a recognized propaganda network.

Ironic, considering that Rupert Murdoch is an Australian.

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 06:08 PM

45. Not banned. Legal counsel have advised anything like Fox America would be prosecuted under

Canadian hate crime laws and convictions likely.

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 06:42 PM

46. now all we have to do is dump Rupert from this country !!

 

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:44 AM

48. Fox news is not banned in Australia

Australia has its share of right wing loonies. I'm not sure if Murdoch has hung on to his Australian citizenship, but I know he has American citizenship. As well as our current political leaders, he is a major embarrassment to Australia.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 03:32 PM

39. Same goes for religious nutz.

Don't you dare have your own ideas or opinions that are different from the official line. My mother is a Talibangelist and her hobby is Armageddon. Back when we were speaking, I would ask her questions about some of her really crazy religious end-timer beliefs and when she didn't have an answer, she'd get angry and then change the subject. I once told her I was afraid that she was in a cult and she got so pissed off, jumped up, pointing her finger at me and yelling, "You're the one in the cult!" I don't need religion; I have a conscience, a working brain, empathy, and my own opinions on things. Of course, she's a MAGAt too. SMH

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:21 AM

3. When they spout nonsense, tell them "You have been lied to.". . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:41 AM

7. They choose not to believe ...

... they've been lied to. And therein lies the problem - because with all of the evidence now available, refusal to believe IS a matter of choice.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:57 AM

24. Sure. But the more times they hear it in those terms the more they'll question their liars


It also plants in their minds an exit strategy from the cult. They can simply tell everyone that they were lied to if/when they drop the QAnon qonjob.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:01 AM

25. btw, You made an excellent OP too. . . . nt

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 03:43 PM

44. It might be helpful too, that the J6 hearings are going to be televised in prime time.

Televising the Vietnam war did a lot to bring it to an end by bringing it into peoples' living rooms. That and the draft, where so many were forced to participate, unless of course, you suffered from fake bone spurs and declared that "your Vietnam" was actively trying to avoid STDs while being a sexual predator.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:36 AM

4. 👍

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Response to Chin music (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:39 AM

20. Yep! (n/t)

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:40 AM

6. good compilation

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:50 AM

8. When people want easy answers they'll believe anything.

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Response to sop (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:16 AM

29. Nail on head sir...easy answers...science is complex...politics is complex...everything is

complex and who wants to feel stupid they not a virologist?

So everyone is expert in everything at everyone’s choosing…social media has provided cozy and free unlimited Expert Armchairs to fight the good fight against all intelligence, now in an equal battle of minds…except one side has a pixelated armchair and one side has PhDs.

That last part being mentioned only involves…the common foaming at mouth.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 08:57 AM

9. I get what you mean but it was drumpf more than "they" who called the hoax.

He killed 800,000 (maybe 1,000,000) as it could have been contained had he acted on time.

Like Australia did: < 3000 dead from covid

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:05 AM

11. Yet now, on right ringnut sites they r blaming Biden

For covid period. Even if Biden came out and reminded ppl t* let this get out of hand, and left him nothing to work with, they would still be impervious to the truth

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Response to childfreebychoice (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:21 AM

16. Also remind them...

...almost a half a BILLION vaccines have been administered in the U.S. so there's not a shortage of vaccines, which Biden may have some influence on. But he cannot force people to get vaccinated without a vaccine mandate and we all know how they feel about that. So the failure is on those who refuse to get vaccinated, not on President Biden. He did his part. They're the ones who've refused the most basic measures to stem the spread of the virus. It's their failure, not President Biden's.

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Response to childfreebychoice (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:46 AM

22. Remember, some of these deluded souls think the orange gibbon created

the vaccine in his bathroom while stopping all crime and making every Americans life better... but then he was removed from office by the deceitful practice of fair voting and now we should be begging him to get back to DC to become the new Emperor For Life and save the galaxy!

(There is no reasoning with delusion. You can only take whatever steps one has to in order to keep the general population safe. Still waiting for this to occur...)

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:09 AM

12. I think we all understand ...

... that whatever Trump said was immediately reiterated by his party.

Ergo, there is no difference between "he" and "they".

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:03 AM

10. But nothing works

All you just presented will not change a single mind.
Which is the truly disturbing part.
We must get all of our supporters to vote because the right is hopeless.
Get the vote out is our most important task.

I have a good friend who has told me for years it is all about race. Sadly I now think he is correct.

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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 03:28 PM

37. GOTV 2022 is The ONLY WAY WE WIN.

And we have a GREAT chance to expand our control of the House and Senate IF DEMOCRATS TURN OUT in November 2022 and get their INDEPENDENT Friends and Family to vote WITH US.

No chance in Hell we can presume ANY rethugs will vote with us, and we CANNOT depend on them AT ALL. Don't waste words or money wooing them.

WE WILL OVERCOME IF ALL OF US do our part.

GOTV 2022

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:10 AM

13. Nigerian princes everywhere

are begging for copies of the GQP donors list.

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Response to moondust (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:13 AM

14. As an older friend of mine used to say ...

... "More true than funny."

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:16 AM

15. LOL

It is what it is.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:36 AM

17. The future of QAnon, explained by 8 experts



If you’re a hardcore QAnon believer, you had high hopes for January.

Among other things, you expected Donald Trump to remain president. You expected mass arrests and public executions. You expected an underground cabal of child-trafficking Democrats to finally be captured.

None of those things happened.

Instead, Joe Biden was sworn in as the 46th president of the United States. So if you’re one of those people — perhaps millions — who were deeply invested in the various QAnon conspiracy theories, the past few weeks likely produced an immense amount of dissonance.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/22252171/qanon-donald-trump-conspiracy-theories

and the hits just keep coming.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:38 AM

19. The thing I don't understand

Those that will believe all of this craziness are very suspicious when it comes to sane ideas. They actively reject sanity while clinging to the insane. I never thought we'd lose this country over something as simple as shear stupidity.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:48 AM

23. Yes, but we will not lose it over stupidity

We will lose it over inaction. And, we are losing it as we speak.

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 03:31 PM

38. No we ARE NOT LOSING NOW. Only if we fail to GOTV in November will we lose.

We have a GREAT chance to expand our Congressional majorities and thaw the Glacial Senate if ALL of us do our parts and GOT V in whatever way we can.

GOTV 2022

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 07:37 PM

47. You are correct that getting out the vote would guarantee a win

Under normal circumstances. These days, 'normal' does not even come close to applying. Let's take North Carolina as an example. If we look at image one... this is the result of the 2020 map that got canned by the courts and the Assembly was told to redraw it. They did so... twice. As you can see, rethugs were able to get 8 seats with 49% of the vote, while Democrats got 5 with 50% of the vote. If the run was a close one, these numbers pretty much stay the same, favoring the rethugs.



Now let's look at the newest results. It is under review and there have already been suits filed to change it. (For the fourth time.) Notice that, although the spread does kind of look more equitable at a glance, the numbers show that now, the rethugs would win TEN seats in a close election while the Democrats would get four. Maybe.



So, it would appear that merely 'getting out the vote' will be ineffectual in North Carolina. And, they have become the blueprint (or the redprint in this case I guess) for other states who are doing or have done the same type of thing. It is going to take removing the rethug party from the field to ever hope to fix this mess. They must be 'defanged'. Trouble is... that is not happening, and will not happen any time soon. (I still don't even see a house arrest monitor on any of the orange gibbon's co-conspirators. And, that crap happened in front of the entire world. Not even a harsh glance for the ones who were behind the entire thing.) So, states have been or are being gerrymandered to make electing anyone but them all but impossible. Confidence in our institutions is flagging because of perceived inaction and lack of progressive direction.

I did not say we had lost, but it sure looks like losing to me. Take it from a complete failure... I know what losing looks like.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 09:45 AM

21. It truly boggles the mind that anyone with a functioning brain can continue to ignore the obvious -

but then, I'm not a member of the party that believes in Jewish Space Lasers, liberals eating children sacrificed in the basement of a DC pizza place, or drinking my own urine while awaiting JFK Jr. to resurrect himself from the dead in order to run as Trump's vice-president in 2024.

Brilliant!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:07 AM

26. Great writing, NanceGeggs.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:11 AM

27. Recommended.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:19 AM

30. OUTSTANDING distillation of a huge amount of stupidity.

Well done, NanceGreggs.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:21 AM

31. The answer to this is...

Ridicule.
They need to be ridiculed. Yeah it's a little mean, but ridicule has a valid place in public discord. (of course the righties have weaponized it)
I was talking with a friend about this and he said "yes their ideas are RIDICULOUS...".

Then i realized I've been trying logic, forget that. They've fortified their minds against that, but Ridicule someone over this stuff and that will sink in.
Have you ever known that coworker who doesn't listen over and over. You can say it again and it will still pass through one more time, but make fun of him not listening, then his ears will pick up.

That's where we have to go from here, we tried being nice, and logical, and patient, now it's time to ridicule the stupid shit they want to believe.

Practice loudly unpacking the stupid chain of idiocy:
"So i need to believe that millions of 'dumb' migrants somehow cast millions of illegal votes in hundreds of jurisdictions, and then covered it up, without leaving a shred of evidence behind? I mean the only people who i see getting busted for voter fraud are comfy republicans in the villages. Are you telling me that a million Mexicans can all simultaneously commit the perfect crime, but well heeled republican retirees are just too stupid to manage it?
Is that what you expect me to believe?"

etc...

We need to get back to ridiculing the ridiculous.

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Response to Hieronymus Phact (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 03:35 PM

41. Absolutely - they HATE Public shaming. (That was the value of the Scarlet Letter.)

They cannot stand to be laughed at and made to be horse's asses that they truly are.

The could care less bout logic and facts and science - but understand a good public shaming and laugh fest.

That is why TLP had such success n 2020 - they targeted their laughter specifically at TFG and made sure that those clips were seen on TV in the White House if nowhere else.

Make them mad and they do really really stupid things trying to defend their honor. Win/Win scenario.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:30 AM

32. Spot on, as always.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:51 AM

33. All true but we ignore these fools at our peril

It's easy to discount the Radical Right as "gullible fools" but we can't forget that they have the power to destroy everything we've worked to achieve here in America.

The neo-fascists have the roadmap in hand to the next successful coup and they have the propaganda machine to make it happen. Where is our roadmap to defend our democracy? Democrats and apathetic Americans have been living in la-la land far too long.

It's easy and feels good to dismiss the right-wingers as bumbling idiots but we have to understand that these idiots may well have their boot on our necks in 2025.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 02:10 PM

34. Dayum, Nance! BALLPARK!

As in “Hit It Out Of The…”

Your stuff is like fine imported chocolate for the mind.

This one is like a fine imported chocolate TRUFFLE for the mind!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 02:14 PM

35. In November of 2024,

They will accuse us of stealing the election by creating a virus that killed republican voters.

I'm not kidding.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 02:21 PM

36. Let's face one glaring fact.

The fact is that right-wingers are morons. Plain and simple. The farther Right you are the dumber you are. I know many right-wingers and they believe absolute bullshit. Everything from Democrats are baby-eating Satan worshipers to Christians are being massively persecuted in this country to drinking your own urine cures Covid! (Yes drinking urine to fight Covid is apparently a thing now!) The idiocy never seems to end. But when you try to dissuade them from their beliefs with things like facts and logic they laugh at you and call you a "sheep" or a "Kool-Aid drinker". They know the REAL story you see! I just accept everything scientists and the medical establish tell me, not realizing that these "elites" are all part of the Globalist conspiracy to turn the world Communist! Ho, ho, ho what a fool I am. They are awaken and see the world as it really is! >sigh<
Seriously, we have a HUGE problem on our hands when it comes to the Right. A large, and seemingly growing, segment of our society has thrust common sense to the side They believe total nonsense and see no contradictions in their every changing narrative. (One glaring example is who were the January 6th rioters. On the one hand they were "patriots" trying to stop a fraudulent election and now these "hero's are unfairly in prison. But, on the other hand, the January 6th rioters were made up of Antifa and the FBI rioting just to make Trump look bad! Which is it? But they seem to believe both narratives simultaneously! How?)
These people don't care about democracy. They WANT fascism. They WANT strong-man rule. And yet at the same time they thump their chests about how much they "love freedom". It's insane! I can't wrap my brain around how these people think. (Or don't think.) We are living in dangerous times and if things don't change we are headed for the 4th Reich! Seriously!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 03:34 PM

40. K & R

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Tue Jan 11, 2022, 03:36 PM

43. K & R and shared on Social Media.

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