Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:04 PM
milestogo (12,613 posts)
"The COVID vaccine is part of a scheme to make money for Big Pharma and Anthony Fauci."
This is a second argument that anti-vaxxers commonly make.
As far as I know, all Covid vaccines in the US have been free to anybody that wants one. As far as I know, Anthony Fauci is a salaried employee and his income is not affected by vaccine production. But people don't trust Big Pharma, in part due to the Oxycontin/Perdue fiasco. The response to my first thread was great. Can you help me out with responding to this argument too?
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Author | Time | Post |
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milestogo | Jan 2022 | OP |
Turbineguy | Jan 2022 | #1 | |
Walleye | Jan 2022 | #2 | |
Maru Kitteh | Jan 2022 | #20 | |
roody | Jan 2022 | #3 | |
Rebl2 | Jan 2022 | #4 | |
Ocelot II | Jan 2022 | #6 | |
Prof. Toru Tanaka | Jan 2022 | #16 | |
Ocelot II | Jan 2022 | #5 | |
Claustrum | Jan 2022 | #15 | |
DBoon | Jan 2022 | #7 | |
Mr.Bill | Jan 2022 | #8 | |
ProfessorGAC | Jan 2022 | #12 | |
EarthFirst | Jan 2022 | #9 | |
madville | Jan 2022 | #10 | |
leftstreet | Jan 2022 | #21 | |
Jim__ | Jan 2022 | #11 | |
mbromell69 | Jan 2022 | #13 | |
mbromell69 | Jan 2022 | #14 | |
whathehell | Jan 2022 | #17 | |
milestogo | Jan 2022 | #18 | |
whathehell | Jan 2022 | #19 | |
Walleye | Jan 2022 | #22 |
Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:06 PM
Turbineguy (34,219 posts)
1. It's OK
They'll give the money to trump.
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Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:06 PM
Walleye (15,412 posts)
2. Vaccine costs $19,, monoclonal antibodies and treatment cost thousands
It’s the unvaccinated who are making money for big Pharma at this point. They already got their vaccine funds
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Response to Walleye (Reply #2)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 08:19 PM
Maru Kitteh (25,862 posts)
20. THIS is the most accurate and salient skewer available
To take that “argument” apart.
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Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:07 PM
roody (10,796 posts)
3. It could be. It is the American model.
I'm very glad that I have had 3 shots of it. So far, so good. Of course, I also mask, social distance, and don't mingle in public places.
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Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:09 PM
Rebl2 (6,929 posts)
4. I would
hope Mr. Fauci has no stock in big pharma.
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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #4)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:10 PM
Ocelot II (100,519 posts)
6. If he did he'd probably have to disclose it, considering his position.
And so we'd know about it if he did.
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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #4)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 07:33 PM
Prof. Toru Tanaka (1,504 posts)
16. I hope MTG isn't pushing this info because she DOES own stock.
And she is most likely vaccinated. |
Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:09 PM
Ocelot II (100,519 posts)
5. Fauci is a government employee who earns a government salary.
He doesn't, and can't, profit in any way from the vaccines.
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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #5)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 07:24 PM
Claustrum (3,380 posts)
15. They somehow thinks Fauci is a political appointee instead of a life long government employee.
So they think of him as another politician who will land a crushy job at one of the big pharma companies after his government service to get his payback. It's once again a projection and conflating issues that they normally do. Fauci is going to retire as a salary government employee.
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Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:11 PM
DBoon (19,878 posts)
7. and if the vaccine DIDN'T make money for a for-profit business
it would be attacked as wasteful government socialism and nanny state welfare
Heads I win, tails you lose. |
Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:14 PM
Mr.Bill (16,914 posts)
8. On conservative websites,
I have heard at different times that Dr. Fuaci owns Moderna, Pfizer anf J&J. What a load of bullshit. Just more projection, since Trump and Kushner have thought of nothing but how they can make money off the pandemic.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #8)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:39 PM
ProfessorGAC (53,486 posts)
12. LOL!
Pfizer has a market cap of $331 billion. J&J is around $450 billion.
If he owned those 2 companies he'd be wealthier than Bezos, Musk, & Gates, combined. Somehow I'd think we'd have heard he's the richest person in the world! |
Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:15 PM
EarthFirst (2,415 posts)
9. Yet a $56,000 pharmaceutical regimen is just the free market at work...
Silly.
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Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:24 PM
madville (6,847 posts)
10. They have certainly profited off of it
Moderna stock is currently up 1200% from $20 a share in November 2019 to $250 a share now. At their peak in the last year it was up almost 2000%. While the vaccine is “free” to the public, the federal government has pumped billions and potentially it will be trillions into these companies.
I don’t think it was a big conspiracy but I also don’t trust them to not take advantage of it, they are still a pharmaceutical corporation that profits big time. I’m kinda mad I didn’t dump my Roth IRA into it, or Tesla for that matter! |
Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:35 PM
Jim__ (13,373 posts)
11. The Covid vaccine is mainly a response to the Covid pandemic.
I'm sure Big Pharma is making a lot of money off the vaccine. I remember when the pandemic first started. My fear was that we had no good response to it except isolation. Whether or not some one is getting rich off the vaccine is a different issue from whether or not the vaccine saved us from a devastating catastrophe. It did.
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Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:56 PM
mbromell69 (44 posts)
13. and the assholes @ FIX NEWSLESS
are claiming to their dumbass base of viewers that Dr Fauci is worse than Mengele ... aka the "Angel of Death" at Auschwitz and that talking point I have heard in public from MAGATs then again since not ONE MAGAt knows jackshit about history easy to see why those ignorant asses would repeat the bullshit |
Response to mbromell69 (Reply #13)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 06:57 PM
mbromell69 (44 posts)
14. and Q ass Marjorie Greeene
owns what? $350,000 in stock of companies producing the vaccine? |
Response to milestogo (Original post)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 07:47 PM
whathehell (27,064 posts)
17. Do they really think all the OTHER industries, US & Global
that have been SAVAGED by the Pandemic would just ALLOW Big Pharma to "profit" at the expense of THEIR businesses?.. You might remind them of this' because if Covid were a "hoax", those other industries would be breaking down doors to expose it as such, to get their businesses back running again.
As for Dr. Fauci, do they imagine him to be an "entrepreneur" or in the position somehow, to "make money" from a disease? He's a Government Worker and makes a fixed salary, not a ,"commission" on medical products. ![]() These people sound terribly naive and uninformed about how things work. |
Response to whathehell (Reply #17)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 07:50 PM
milestogo (12,613 posts)
18. Anthony Fauci doesn't seem like someone who is motivated by money.
He is at the top of his field, and enjoys tremendous prestige. And if he did not have such a strong sense of commitment to public health he would have retired 20 years ago.
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Response to milestogo (Reply #18)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 07:56 PM
whathehell (27,064 posts)
19. No, he doesn't
, but even if he DID, I'd guess his making profits off drugs would constitute a severe conflict of interest in terms of his job.
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Response to milestogo (Reply #18)
Sat Jan 1, 2022, 08:43 PM
Walleye (15,412 posts)