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crimycarny

(1,669 posts)
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:01 PM Dec 2021

Anyone else seeing this trend in those not wearing masks? White middle-aged men?

Newsom mandated a state-wide mask mandate but I live in a Trumper county. My husband and I went to Whole Foods today and, as you'd expect in Whole Foods, most people were complying with wearing masks (Whole Foods had a big sign stating masks were required). However there were a few not complying, maybe 20%? In looking around every single person not wearing a mask was white, male, and middle-aged (middle-aged being 40's to 50's). I mean, every single one.

Now, go to a Walmart in my area and you're going to see maybe 50% compliance, about 70% white males and the other 30% white females. But largely white middle-aged men.

Curious if others are observing the same trend?

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Anyone else seeing this trend in those not wearing masks? White middle-aged men? (Original Post) crimycarny Dec 2021 OP
When I see unmasked people MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #1
I see that here in Ohio plus.. luvs2sing Dec 2021 #2
I see a much higher proportion of black men and women wearing masks than white. Ms. Toad Dec 2021 #9
Maybe it's a Kroger thing. luvs2sing Dec 2021 #13
I'm in the only county in Indiana with a mask mandate. salin Dec 2021 #37
All ages around here... 2naSalit Dec 2021 #3
In Costco, I see more women not wearing masks or wearing them incorrectly than men. DavidDvorkin Dec 2021 #4
No Philosophizing Fool Dec 2021 #5
It's a even mix between white and black people where I live JanMichael Dec 2021 #6
I was at Walgreens, drug store, yesterday getting a boost... Bluethroughu Dec 2021 #7
Yes, either no mask or with their nose hanging out. Shrike47 Dec 2021 #8
Yes. From 21 to about 60, no masks bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #10
I'm seeing more college aged females/males dweller Dec 2021 #11
I see both men and women without masks Diamond_Dog Dec 2021 #12
Pagosa Springs, Co - City Market, almost no men with masks alittlelark Dec 2021 #14
I see black teen aged boys without masks milestogo Dec 2021 #15
Pox news victims mahina Dec 2021 #16
I've really never noticed, I just do my thing and get in and out as fast as I can nt Raine Dec 2021 #17
Sounds like your area just has a whiter population than most of California to begin with Spider Jerusalem Dec 2021 #18
That's very true crimycarny Dec 2021 #28
South of Boston - Went to Target. Kohls, Lowe's today OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2021 #19
Yes, dramatic drop over the last month Sewa Dec 2021 #20
I live in a very diverse area. I see older black women wearing masks, also older white women. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #21
Hell hath no fury.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2021 #22
I agree and I'm white MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #26
Hahahahaa I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2021 #38
What do they say when you confront them ? MichMan Dec 2021 #23
I wear my mask but I figure I'm only wearing it to protect the unvaccinated. dem4decades Dec 2021 #24
Here we Meowmee Dec 2021 #25
Good advice MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #27
In That Age Group... ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #29
I live in blue state Massachusetts MissMillie Dec 2021 #30
I'm in New York and they just reinstated the mask mandate which was suspended in July Rhiannon12866 Dec 2021 #31
Mostly young hipsters where I live randr Dec 2021 #32
SW AZ checking in here* not fooled Dec 2021 #33
damn near 100% compliance here.... bahboo Dec 2021 #34
In FL. its the men you describe and the MAGA looking ladies. Jon King Dec 2021 #35
Mask compliance here in Central CA... Zeitghost Dec 2021 #36
If I had to name a demographic group Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #39
Not everyone who doesn't wear a mask is anti vaccine. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #40
This is what I notice Dickster Dec 2021 #41

MustLoveBeagles

(12,929 posts)
1. When I see unmasked people
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:04 PM
Dec 2021

It's usually white men but not always. When I was at the liquor store earlier I kept running into a middle-aged Hispanic man without one.

Ms. Toad

(35,867 posts)
9. I see a much higher proportion of black men and women wearing masks than white.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:22 PM
Dec 2021

I haven't noticed race in connection with gender or age.

(Also Ohio)

salin

(48,958 posts)
37. I'm in the only county in Indiana with a mask mandate.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 09:06 PM
Dec 2021

College town. Mask compliance is better in the city (near uniform) and lower in the county. When shopping at the Krogers or Target - the most fequent non-maskers seem to be older white women (60+ ish). Even when the store hands masks out at the entrance. Mask goes on, then comes right back off. I am close to that demographic, as are many of my friends - and none of us understand the trend.

 
5. No
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:11 PM
Dec 2021

Women seem to be masked more often but I have not noticed any assignments to racial characteristics. Men are much more lax regarding any safety gear, in my experience, until they get hurt. No safety glasses until an eye is nearly lost, ignoring hearing damage until they prematurely deafen, much more likely to drink and drive, and numerous other examples.

Bluethroughu

(6,751 posts)
7. I was at Walgreens, drug store, yesterday getting a boost...
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:16 PM
Dec 2021

Middle age woman, no mask near the pharmacy...my husband and I gave her a dirty look and stepped away like she had a C-arlette letter. She then got close to a guy in his twenties in line, he then stepped away. During this time she was talking out loud, and their were some seniors waiting for their vax, they looked away.

I hope she felt uncomfortable and puts on a mask, next time she's out. Our county is having a surge in Covid cases.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
8. Yes, either no mask or with their nose hanging out.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:17 PM
Dec 2021

They annoy me no end and sometimes times I say something in their vicinity.

dweller

(25,573 posts)
11. I'm seeing more college aged females/males
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:25 PM
Dec 2021

without masks, but then I’m in a college town
And I have noticed 30-40’s couples without, I cuss at them too


✌🏻

alittlelark

(18,939 posts)
14. Pagosa Springs, Co - City Market, almost no men with masks
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:28 PM
Dec 2021

Only teens, 20-somethings and men appearing over 60.

I NOTICED.

Got my booster yesterday here as well. Others were young men, those over 60, and 2 women. Many fewer women than men.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
18. Sounds like your area just has a whiter population than most of California to begin with
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:38 PM
Dec 2021

on my last trip to the grocery I saw more younger (late teens to late 20s) black and Latino people not wearing masks than middle-aged people of any description.

crimycarny

(1,669 posts)
28. That's very true
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 07:34 PM
Dec 2021

My area is largely white, but people of color in my area that I've seen tend to wear their masks. I think maybe it's because I'm in the middle of your typical Trumper white male-dominated county. I just had to go out again--my daughter decided at the last minute she wanted peppermint bark for Xmas and it is NOWHERE to be found--I went to Walgreens, Safeway, Nugget, Belair, and CVS. Again, literally 90% of those not wearing masks were white males, all at least over 30.

I don't confront them because a) there's no point and b) that's what they want. I will see some looking like "so what are you going to do about it??". They are itching to be confronted. I'll often smile and say "hello" (through my N95 mask) because that p*sses them off more than anything. They WANT to be noticed and "admired" for their "independence" and "not bowing to authority". In reality they are just big babies who are desperate to seem relevant. (Oh, and selfish *ssholes too).

Sewa

(1,376 posts)
20. Yes, dramatic drop over the last month
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:48 PM
Dec 2021

I would estimate a difference of 90% to 50% mask worn now. I was shocked at the swiftness of the drop off. I do live in a red area.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
21. I live in a very diverse area. I see older black women wearing masks, also older white women.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:52 PM
Dec 2021

White men not so much, same with black men

Younger people of both races not wearing masks. Young women more likely to wear them than young men of any race. Hispanic folks of all ages wearing them.

MichMan

(14,064 posts)
23. What do they say when you confront them ?
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 06:55 PM
Dec 2021

What is the penalty in California for an individual that does not comply with the directive ? What happens if someone reports them? Fines, arrest ?

dem4decades

(12,264 posts)
24. I wear my mask but I figure I'm only wearing it to protect the unvaccinated.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 07:16 PM
Dec 2021

And at times I'm like, why, but I do it for those too young to be vaccinated.

Meowmee

(6,933 posts)
25. Here we
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 07:20 PM
Dec 2021

See unmasked people of all ages… younger people also. Nearly no biz were enforcing the 2 week mask mandate, I am not sure if it has been continued. Costco was the only place that was but overall there are more masked people. You are on your own now even more, protect yourself and family because no one else will.

ProfessorGAC

(71,475 posts)
29. In That Age Group...
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 08:01 PM
Dec 2021

...I see both men & women being maskless tools.
Where I see it as more gender based is in my age group of 60s. Hardly any 60 something women not masked.

Rhiannon12866

(227,618 posts)
31. I'm in New York and they just reinstated the mask mandate which was suspended in July
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 08:49 PM
Dec 2021

I've seen a few who tried to go maskless, 2 older men and one woman. However it is enforced here. And the local Walmart is actually the most strict, they have a mask checker at the entrance.

not fooled

(6,154 posts)
33. SW AZ checking in here*
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 08:53 PM
Dec 2021

Mostly white but significant % of Hispanics. Yesterday, at Fry's (Kroger) and Wal-Mart, Hispanics wore masks at a noticeably higher rate than whites.

*Big-time red don country, especially in the more rural, heavily white parts.

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
34. damn near 100% compliance here....
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 08:54 PM
Dec 2021

in Ventura. You go inside, you wear a mask. Granted, some better than others, but we're doing damn good...

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
35. In FL. its the men you describe and the MAGA looking ladies.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 08:57 PM
Dec 2021

Down here its definitely mostly the MAGA type guys you describe along with the MAGA women. The very loud, push the shopping cart around corners at full speed without looking, park the cart diagonally across the aisle while talking on the phone type women. You know rude, well MAGAs, same thing.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
36. Mask compliance here in Central CA...
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 08:58 PM
Dec 2021

Is bad, but mostly seems to mirror local demographics of mostly white and latino. The southeast Asian population is probably a little more compliant. I mentioned in another thread that at the mall last night it was ~15% masked at most.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
39. If I had to name a demographic group
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 09:40 PM
Dec 2021

likely to be maskless here, it would be young Hispanic men. Middle aged white men would be the second choice.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
40. Not everyone who doesn't wear a mask is anti vaccine.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 10:10 PM
Dec 2021

A good amount likely feel 3 shots is enough protection from the worst of it.

Dickster

(115 posts)
41. This is what I notice
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 10:21 PM
Dec 2021

It may be my imagination, but the people that I meet without a mask either have a guilty look in their eyes when eye contact us made, or they avoid eye contact. Those with masks seem to have a brighter look in their eyes, as if they acknowledge a fellow traveler. Like I said, it may be my imagination..

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