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Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:40 PM

Manchin & Sinema - Comment Sent

I am CRUSHED that Joe Manchin's "no" could doom Build Back Better. I just sent the following comment to Senator Manchin. I also forwarded it to Senator Sinema, asking her if she could use any kernel of influence she has to get Manchin to change his vote:

My middle-class parents worked like dogs and saved up $150,000 for their retirement and thought they were fortunate. After my mother's stroke, she was totally paralyzed on one side. My parents BLEW through every penny of that money paying for the in-home caregivers my mother needed to get my mom to the toilet and the shower -- to even turn over in bed. Then they were BROKE. I woke up at 3 a.m., worried sick, for FIVE YEARS. We had NO ALTERNATIVE but to put my terrified mother into an understaffed nursing home, crammed to the brink. You, Joe Manchin, could have changed this. This was your chance to help middle-class people in so many ways. You could end SO MUCH HUMAN SUFFERING. WHY WHY WHY did you not vote for Build Back Better?

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Reply Manchin & Sinema - Comment Sent (Original post)
Desert_Leslie Dec 2021 OP
Walleye Dec 2021 #1
Tommymac Dec 2021 #2
Eyeball_Kid Dec 2021 #5
Tommymac Dec 2021 #6
Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #3
monkeyman1 Dec 2021 #10
Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #15
quakerboy Dec 2021 #18
JohnSJ Dec 2021 #4
Desert_Leslie Dec 2021 #7
JohnSJ Dec 2021 #9
Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #19
paleotn Dec 2021 #25
Septua Dec 2021 #8
Desert_Leslie Dec 2021 #12
Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #17
housecat Dec 2021 #24
YoshidaYui Dec 2021 #11
Desert_Leslie Dec 2021 #14
childfreebychoice Dec 2021 #20
housecat Dec 2021 #23
UCmeNdc Dec 2021 #13
Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #16
housecat Dec 2021 #21
Kablooie Dec 2021 #22
Dirty Socialist Dec 2021 #26

Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:42 PM

1. I hate that he's blaming it on his constituents. As if he's even tried to explain it to them

This is your fault senator, not your fellow West Virginians. They thought they were voting for a Democrat

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:46 PM

2. Because his greed is more important then your parents.

He gets $$$$$ from the Koch family and other Big Energy 1%'ers.

You can bet their families NEVER have to suffer...and they don't give a rat's ass about yours or mine or any middle class peon.

Been like this throughout history...progressives and Unionists are TRYING to relieve a bit of the suffering, but the monied control the message.

We lost so much when the M$M disinformation turned people away from Unions in the 1960's and 1970's.

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:03 PM

5. The unregulated and undertaxed wealthy will ALWAYS

shit on those less advantaged. ALWAYS. There is no time in history when this has NOT happened.

Most political scientists will define the issue as the consequences of an under-regulated capitalist society. When wealth dictates the operations of governing, dictatorships and/or fascism is always the result. Karl Marx convincingly made that point, but his answer to the problem did not, and could not, materialize. Marxism's failure started and ended with the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Once an elite group gains power, they fight to maintain it. Human nature is the part of the equation that Marx failed to consider.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:13 PM

6. Real Democracy does a decent job of regulating Capital.

But the emergence of China as a Capitalist Totalitarian State has shown the 1% the way to real permanent power.

And they are bending all the rules and taking out all the stops to turn the whole Globe Authoritarian so they can control 99.99999999% of the wealth.

The loss of Union power in the 1960's and 1970's due to a complicit M$M is now reaching it's full potential.

Effective Unions were the only thing standing between Democracy and Authoritarianism. A whole century of Progress has been dealt a blow that we may never recover from - Climate Change and Viruses could give a shit.

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:46 PM

3. The GOP causing human suffering is a feature, not a bug.

They get off on the power trip.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:00 PM

10. 1 good thing , republican's -

 

are dying off like fleas in a pet's flea dip bath ! couldn't happen to a better taliban party !!!

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Response to monkeyman1 (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:04 PM

15. I guess the GOP knows their propaganda machine will get more recruits. :(

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Response to monkeyman1 (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:09 PM

18. thus the continued move to make voting irrelevant

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 12:47 PM

4. While I applaud your effort, if you are not from West Virgina, I doubt it will have much influence

with him. Hell, even if you were from WV, I am not sure if it would matter.

Much of Manchin's donations are coming from the oil and gas lobby, etc.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:16 PM

7. True, but --

I agree that Manchin won't pay attention to my comment -- I'm not a constituent of his.

But I forwarded my comment to Senator Sinema with this preamble:

"Senator Sinema, I am a registered democrat and your constituent. I knocked on 500 doors in your 2018 campaign. I know that you work alongside Senator Manchin and know him well. I am asking you to use any kernel of influence you have with Senator Manchin to get him to change his 'no' vote on Build Back Better to 'yes.'"

Now, will this do anything at all to change this situation? No. But it beats doing absolutely nothing. Anything beats nothing.

I introduced Senator Sinema twice at local Democratic field offices during the GOTV push. I opened my introductions with the following words from Margaret Mead. It was true when Margaret Mead said it, and it's true today ... as I have to keep telling myself:

A famous woman once said: Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:34 PM

9. +++

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:10 PM

19. Be prepared Her refusal to approve is next.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:41 PM

25. And I am sick and f'ing tired.....

of some coal baron, hick from a piss ant state having such impact on national policy. And this is from someone who lives in a piss ant state. Just not Machin's piss ant state.

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 01:26 PM

8. I'll just add the rhetoric..

..that without the voting rights bill getting passed one way or another, Biden's agenda is academic.

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Response to Septua (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:03 PM

12. Yes

Truer words never spoken.

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Response to Septua (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:08 PM

17. Yup, more important now than ever.

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Response to Septua (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:38 PM

24. Yeap. It should have been first priority, but it wasn't. So we're screwed.

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:03 PM

11. I don't get it either....

How is saying no going to help West Virginia?

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Response to YoshidaYui (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:04 PM

14. Great question

That's what I do not understand. WV is such a poor state. I saw that 25% of people in WV do not have their own teeth.

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:29 PM

20. Teeth not required on the ramen noodle diet. nt

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:36 PM

23. They voted for the evil one, and they believe Fox. No teeth is not their biggest problem

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:04 PM

13. Sad

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:07 PM

16. Money.

No words for his hypocrisy.

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:34 PM

21. He is a DINO and only cares about money. Nothing else.

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:36 PM

22. I wish someone would follow the money.

Probably getting a huge paycheck from some billionaire trumper.

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Response to Desert_Leslie (Original post)

Sun Dec 19, 2021, 03:45 PM

26. ZELL MANCHIN CARES!!!

About his money

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