So Columbia U study says Omicron is likely vaccine and booster resistant. Yet I hear Fauci

[Laura PourMeADrink]

say we don't need to develop an Omicron vaccine at this time.

🤔

CU
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-columbia-university-study-shows-omicron-resistant-to-vaccines-20211216-73x6jmf3xrblxmyjn3drtku52a-story.html%3foutputType=amp

Fauci
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/covid-omicron-variant-vaccine-fauci/&ved=2ahUKEwjf1vKJiur0AhUZkokEHXxmD3IQ0PADKAB6BAgEEAE&usg=AOvVaw2Dh-exsuSk6twqCUHyzyyG

[Hoyt]

1. Sure hope the science resolves this quickly. Tend to accept Fauci's

judgement. But he did waffle on masks, perhaps under pressure from trump.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Sadly "waffle on masks" means people got sick and some died :(

[Poiuyt]

2. I heard having the booster is key to warding off omicron

BTW, when is "fully vaccinated" going to mean having all three shots?

[SunSeeker]

4. If it's been 6 months, you're not "fully vaxxed."

After 6 months, Pfizer goes from being 87% effective to 45%. J&J is even worse, dropping to only 13% effectiveness. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211105/covid-vaccine-protection-drops-study#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%20the%20Pfizer%2FBioNTech%20vaccine,13%25%20over%20those%206%20months.

To me, having the Pfizer or Moderna booster means you're fully vaxxed.

[Elessar Zappa]

3. The studies I've seen indicate

that the booster is indeed effective but just the two shots aren’t.

[wellst0nev0ter]

5. Study hasn't been peer reviewed

Also:

The study only involved a handful of patients and it made no effort to discover whether omicron might cause less or more severe illness.

[ARPad95]

6. Here is hospitalizations data for the period 11/17/2021 - 12/14/2021 in my county in New York

https://covid19.ongov.net/data/#hospitalizations

COVID-19 Hospitalizations by Age Group and Vaccination Status, Onondaga County, 11/17/21-12/14/21

As you'll see, the hospitalizations for FULLY VACCINATED exceed the UNVACCINATED in the 70-79 and 80-89 age groups because the vast majority in those age groups are fully vaccinated and breakthrough cases are being reflected.

On the other hand, the youngest age groups (0-19, 20-29, 30-39) and the 50 - 59 age group the hospitalizations for the UNVACCINATED far exceed hospitalizations for the FULLY VACCINATED. I wonder if the 50 - 59 age group has a lot of anti-vaxxers?

[mucifer]

7. Israeli study says booster is effective.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03592-2

Fauci is probably going by the Israeli data. They have been boosting more of their population earlier than us.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. Interesting. And per Reuters

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Early data - UK study Level of severity in Omicron NOT proving lower than Delta

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232698/modelling-suggests-rapid-spread-omicron-england/