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Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:03 AM

Reminder about Trump's day yesterday.

I don't want to move on from this. I want this to be the narrative for more than 1 day.

The AG of NY, Letitia James summoned Trump for a deposition on Jan. 7th. This action means that she has all of the goods (documents) to indict Trump. She is doing the civil investigation/trial where intent doesn't need to be proven, it matters not whether Trump shows up for the deposition, he/his organization stands to lose hundreds of millions of dollars.

Oh yeah, the 3 judge Appeals court unanimously upheld the District court's decision that Trump does not have executive authority over the release of White House documents. In a blistering decision the court basically said that Trump made no valid argument and that our country has 1 president at a time and that president is Joseph Biden. This decision importantly, also means that Steve Bannon and Mark Meadows, and any other traitor can't claim Trump's now bogus executive immunity.

Just a reminder for Trump if he wants to immoralize, or was that memorialize a wonderful day yesterday.

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Reply Reminder about Trump's day yesterday. (Original post)
gab13by13 Dec 2021 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2021 #1
Raster Dec 2021 #4
electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #10
DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #58
Harker Dec 2021 #2
msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #16
Harker Dec 2021 #30
calimary Dec 2021 #41
Harker Dec 2021 #43
MyOwnPeace Dec 2021 #3
Fritz Walter Dec 2021 #33
LuckyLib Dec 2021 #57
MyOwnPeace Dec 2021 #59
JudyM Dec 2021 #5
TheRickles Dec 2021 #6
mrsadm Dec 2021 #9
Beastly Boy Dec 2021 #11
calimary Dec 2021 #42
ms liberty Dec 2021 #45
CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #7
jaxexpat Dec 2021 #8
vlyons Dec 2021 #12
MyOwnPeace Dec 2021 #60
Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #13
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #14
SergeStorms Dec 2021 #54
CaptainTruth Dec 2021 #15
msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #38
Chin music Dec 2021 #17
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #19
Chin music Dec 2021 #20
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #22
Chin music Dec 2021 #23
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #26
Chin music Dec 2021 #27
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #29
NewJeffCT Dec 2021 #46
Chin music Dec 2021 #47
msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #35
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #18
msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #36
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #21
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #24
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #28
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2021 #39
Chin music Dec 2021 #50
msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #37
msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #25
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #32
msfiddlestix Dec 2021 #34
Chin music Dec 2021 #51
SouthernDem4ever Dec 2021 #53
Chin music Dec 2021 #55
gab13by13 Dec 2021 #31
housecat Dec 2021 #40
lame54 Dec 2021 #44
Blue Owl Dec 2021 #48
Stuart G Dec 2021 #49
Murphyb849 Dec 2021 #52
Kablooie Dec 2021 #56

Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:39 AM

1. I saw that news yesterday, and I'm right there with you on this, my dear gab13by13!

It's great that Letitia James is pursuing this topic so vigorously. Just consider how upset TFG will be if she's the one who brings him down!

A woman and a POC. Perfect!

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:01 AM

4. HELL YES!!!

Letitia James has been COURAGEOUS and has every last one of her legal ducks in a row.

BRING. HIM. DOWN!

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:42 AM

10. Oh, The Irony would be SO fabulous! ...

I'd imagine that VP Kamala, Rep Waters, Stacey Abrams, and more will have big smiles.

As will I.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 11, 2021, 03:24 AM

58. I agree

but I have to believe that every single last document was shredded long before he ever left the Whitehouse. Just like Oliver North and his secretary did......................

AND

If the Federal Authorities actually come for him, he will have already absconded to some unknown foreign location on some Republican Billionaires Gulfstream. Either that,

Or he will call on his followers to all come, en masse, immediately to Mar-a-Dingo to defend him from the Democrat Authorities.........
He and Desatin should have no problem assembling tens of thousands of Floridians on a moments notice if not many more.......

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:46 AM

2. Too bad she had other plans for the day prior. n/t

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Response to Harker (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:10 AM

16. ???

I'm trying to catch up... I'm trying to understand what I missed yesterday. The OP points to Jan 7th regarding a deposition appointment TFG ignored on bogus grounds, that was nearly a year ago. I'm guessing a critical legal/court decision connected to the NY's AG filings but don't know exactly what that was... and then I came across your post and now I'm even more confused.

Do I need to google?




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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:52 AM

30. I just thought January 6 would've been a good historical juxtaposition. n/t

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Response to Harker (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 02:48 PM

41. I did, too, except it's actually better for the day after Jan. 6.

It’ll mean far fewer distractions from the “one year ago today…” retrospectives on the insurrection. That needs to be aired ALL DAY that day. So we’re all reminded.

And then, let this new “Bad Day for the donald” suck up all the oxygen the next day, directly on the heels of the Jan. 6 anniversary.

Like bookends from hell.

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Response to calimary (Reply #41)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 02:59 PM

43. I think you have it right.

"Bookends from hell" has a beautiful ring to it.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 09:50 AM

3. "A day that will live.........

in Trump's evil mind - forever!" ' - or at least until we see that famous scene of him being marched out of Merde-a-Lardo in cuffs (from the movie "Fat Man Walking!" ).



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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:58 AM

33. Will this do in the meantime?

OK, it's dated, but still a joy to watch!


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Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #33)

Sat Dec 11, 2021, 03:16 AM

57. Forgot about this! Even more on target after all we know now!

Thanks for posting this!

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Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #33)

Sat Dec 11, 2021, 05:23 PM

59. And the ending scene?

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:32 AM

5. That family will not be having happy holidays. May this be just the beginning of their ensnarement.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:37 AM

6. I wonder if this is why Ms. James just decided not to run for Gov.

She wants to finish the job she started as AG.

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Response to TheRickles (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:41 AM

9. I wondered that too, and if she thought

it was more important to get Trump than to pursue her own ambitions. If so I am very grateful!

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Response to TheRickles (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:53 AM

11. Taking down Trump will give her much more political capital than running for Gov in a crowded field!

And the political capital will stay with her for the reest of her life. She is relatively young, and she has places to go. SCOTUS is not out of the question by any means.

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Response to Beastly Boy (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 02:50 PM

42. Now THAT'S an interesting idea!

Letitia James winding up as a future SCOTUS justice.

That would be FANTASTIC!!!

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Response to Beastly Boy (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 06:59 PM

45. I like your thinking here! n/t

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:39 AM

7. It was a good day for justice.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:40 AM

8. Why wait until Jan 7th? Why wait a single moment to bring all this to public justice.

I want to see live coverage of a real trial with a real jury and it needs to happen NOW, to have already happened.

Okay.....I get it.......even if there is a trial it won't be covered live....there's no precedent for the trying of an ex-president. Will it all be pushed off until the mid-terms?

Everybody in the world needs to see the US federal government clean its own mess up. Can't count on the USSC to faithfully decide in the favor of justice since they're OBVIOUSLY political. Still, they are almost certain to be the final word on the matter. How does that make you feel? Do you feel like you've been hit in the stomach again? Like you did the morning when you woke to find that Trump was elected? Maybe it's just indigestion from all the lying propaganda we've swallowed for so many decades. Like when you uncover the layers of this country's history to find, at the bottom of it all, preserved like a holy relic, evidence of a dark secret that no one should ever keep. The scent of an evil which hid itself behind a mask. The masked lie upon which our nation was founded.

The lie is that our founders accomplished the formation of a functional democracy. Democracy cannot exist where people are enslaved and women are 2nd class citizens. Democracy exists only when and where every citizen's vote is counted and every citizen votes. Without the shroud of "electors" or the fraud of voting district boundaries. It's because of these perversely extraneous institutionalizations that we find ourselves at this impasse without a means to move toward safe and solid ground, somewhere beyond violence. Living in a fear of the jungle's inconvenience, we just trudge along into our sad containment.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:55 AM

12. He got his butt kicked big time

So if and when he gets indicted for tax fraud and/or perjury, do think he will hop a plane to Russia, rather than do a perp walk?

I want that bastard sitting in a very very small gray cell for the rest of his life with nothing to do but contemplate how he got himself there. Not that it matters, because the chances of him having an ah-ha moment, where he realizes that he did it to himself are slim and none. Nope, he will persist in the delusion that he's a victim, and "they" did it to him/

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Response to vlyons (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 11, 2021, 05:34 PM

60. Trump - introspective?

HA!

Slob's only thoughts will be about how he could possible screw someone/anyone else sitting there in his cell block - before they screw him (if you 'know' what I mean!)

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:56 AM

13. K & R...nt

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 10:56 AM

14. Remember, the Tish James investigation is civil not criminal.

Cy Vance jr. is doing the criminal investigation but both are cooperating with one another.

The James trial will cost the Trump organization hundreds of millions of dollars if he loses, Trump will not go to jail.

Letitia James is ready for trial, she doesn't need Trump's deposition, she has the documents, and the good thing about a civil trial, she can use his taking the 5th against him and she doesn't have to prove intent.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 11, 2021, 12:16 AM

54. "Hundreds of millions of dollars".

The Orange Pig has grifted far more than that from the suckers who bought stock in his "media empire", and his cult members keep throwing money his way like they're printing it in their garages (they probably are). And we'll probably never know how much he stole from the American people while squatting in the White House.

The Orange Pig won't lose a penny of his own money, even if he's found guilty in New York, guilty of tax evasion, and guilty of every other con he's perpetrated.

King Con has already stolen more than he could ever lose in judgements. And they say crime doesn't pay. "They" never met King Con.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:06 AM

15. Most important part of the ruling against Trump:

"The Committee is investigating a singular event in this nation's history, in which there is a sufficient factual predicate for inferring that former President Trump and his advisors played a materially relevant role."

For emphasis, the judges wrote "there is a sufficient factual predicate for inferring that former President Trump and his advisors played a materially relevant role"

I believe this is the first time any court has said Trump & his cabal played a "materially relevant role" in the 1/6 insurrection. I don't think I need to explain how significant that is, to have that statement come from judges in a court.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 01:03 PM

38. That info makes my heart sing with hope.

thanks for underscoring and giving much needed attention.



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Response to Chin music (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:16 AM

19. James has Trump nailed,

signed, sealed, and delivered. Cy Vance Jr. hasn't decided yet on a criminal prosecution and his term is almost up, maybe that's for the better if the new guy takes over?

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Response to Chin music (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:21 AM

22. Trump will not run out the clock on Letitia James.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:39 AM

26. No that's not it,

James is doing a civil case, basically involving 3 Trump properties. He over-valued their worth when getting a loan but under-valued their worth when paying taxes. The range of values that Trump used was astronomical. This isn't just about avoiding taxes, it could also involve defrauding investors, and bank fraud. Experts that I listened to on TV claim that the Trump Organization is probably liable for hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:49 AM

29. I agree with that.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 07:16 PM

46. Trump will just declare bankruptcy again

if he gets hit with a big civil judgement.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 12:54 PM

35. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️

I love how well you cut through the weeds to get to the nut of the matter for people like me...


again!

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:13 AM

18. Yeah the Appeals court put the shaft to Bannon and Meadows,

and the rest of the traitors who plan to use Trump's executive privilege argument.

I hope that Merrick Garland read the Appeal court's decision, those 3 judges get it.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 12:55 PM

36. Indeed!


I hope that Merrick Garland read the Appeal court's decision, those 3 judges get it.


We shall see, eventually I suppose.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:19 AM

21. I just have to do this;

Republican set in stone dogma; One President At A Time, and that president is Joseph Biden, so says the Appeals court.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:24 AM

24. Wonder how TFG will try to delay the deposition

Has golf match on January 7th?

I was reading up on when Eric got deposed in October last year. I read that they challenged the validity of a state subpoena. But then I could never find anything to substantiate that. All I can find was that Eric tried to delay until after the election. Due to his travel schedule LOL. They didn't buy that.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:47 AM

28. James is smart, and determined, she will nail Trump.

Yes she forced Eric to testify which makes me wonder what cats did he leave out of the bag?

I repeat, the civil prosecution is much easier to get a conviction than a criminal trial. James does not have to prove intent. Trump is good at having his kids put their names on documents to protect himself, he did that in his money laundering tower in Baku, Azebaijan, he had Ivanka put her name on that tower that never opened for business. This is different, the Trump Organization is going to be out a lot of money no matter who Trump tries to blame, and he would throw his kids under the bus if he could.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 01:25 PM

39. Think the Seven Springs property and easement deal

Is very interesting. Remembering listening to a story about an NPR last year.

Here's a good WSJ explanation too.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-organization-considers-sale-of-its-seven-springs-property-11602793724

Bet you any money trump coerced the appraisers.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 12:58 PM

37. I think he has to wash his orange mop on that day..

and then yeah, has a golf match with the Saudis Prince, if memory serves.





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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:34 AM

25. I missed all of this yesterday...

thanks for posting, I have a bit of catching up to do!



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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:57 AM

32. The Appeals court gave Trump 14 days to appeal to the SC.

We are all hoping that the SC refuses to take the case. It takes 4 justices to take on a case and the court may not have the 4. If it does take on the case it certainly needs to be expedited. I don't believe that Chief Justice Roberts wants his court to be known as the flood gate that opened our country to autocracy.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 12:39 PM

34. it's interesting to read the twitter thread on this point

it's been suggested that SCOTUS is likely to refuse to hear the case for a preliminary injunction matter, with the caveat that the courts do surprise legal eagles. (my words)

The speculative thinking is that is not likely. xfingers

thanks!

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Response to Chin music (Reply #51)

Sat Dec 11, 2021, 12:14 AM

53. Amy Corney Barrett thinks all pregancies should be carried to term

and then give the baby up for adoption. She is pretty stupidly insane to make a blanket judgement on all women and all situations.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:52 AM

31. OT but,

let us not sweep the National Guard whistleblower's claim that the military slow walked and lied to Congress about the delay in deploying the guard. General Flynn has to have a superior officer, I would love to see the military investigate Flynn, a fair and impartial investigation.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 02:24 PM

40. Delicious. I won't watch any news today so I can just savor this

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 03:17 PM

44. But Fox's Christmas tree burned down

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 08:26 PM

48. The next best thing to tRump croaking and putting himself out of his misery

Would be for his fat ass to be in a jail cell...

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:07 PM

49. Thank You for posting...K and R.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Dec 10, 2021, 11:59 PM

52. Thank you we need to acknowledge this ☺️

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Sat Dec 11, 2021, 03:05 AM

56. God I hope they actually do hold him accountable.

But I'm not going to hold my breath.

Our legal system seems to offer an infinite amount of escape hatches if you are a hardcore con man, cheat and grifter with no morals.

Trump is the world expert at is preventing the legal system from ever holding him accountable for anything.

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