Have we really sunk to the point

[sarisataka]

That mass casualty events are fodder for jokes?

[dhol82]

1. Context?

[sarisataka]

4. The event in Waukesha

Where a SUV drove through a parade. At least 20 injured, 1 dead. Many seems to find this worth making light of

[dhol82]

7. Did not know

Just ran across the post.
People made fun of this???

[sarisataka]

9. Read virtually any thread

You will find one or more posts about cheese, self-defense or to not call them victims...

[dhol82]

10. Damn.

[TDale313]

17. Gallows humor is nothing new.

It’s the way a lot of people cope with horrifying news and situations they feel they have little control over.

[Scrivener7]

2. Oh, God, are you serious? People are joking about this?

[Hav]

3. Yes

Lots of self-defense and they were scared jokes.

[BlackSkimmer]

8. Pick any thread.

Jokes about cheese, among others.

[BlackSkimmer]

5. I'm horrified by what I'm reading here in various threads.

I guess people think they’re clever, but they’re showing exactly who they are. Yuck.

[Diablo del sol]

6. Writing them as a defense mechanism, defensible

Not editing or deleting, isn’t.

[Gore1FL]

11. It's social commentary.

I will make snide comments about mass shootings, too. It happens when you've had enough bullshit.

[BlackSkimmer]

13. No. Really it's not.

Jokes about cheese, Christmas sweaters, etc. in regard to a mass casualty event is bad taste, to put it mildly.

And disgusting, which is still putting it mildly.

[Gore1FL]

25. My post stated that the SUV was acting in self-defense.

That is commentary on the recent failure of the justice system, not commentary on those involved in tonight's tragedy. Anyone bent about it needs thicker skin.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

26. Nah, it's both

But you do you - must be nice to be able to laugh about children getting run over by a car.

[Gore1FL]

37. LOL! Yeah! children dying!

Way to define things incorrectly and feel noble about it at the same time!

As you say, "you do you!"

[BlackSkimmer]

67. You can get as defensive as you want.

Something very wrong with joking about children being run over.

[Lancero]

38. So, because of recent justice failures, you respond by joking about kids getting run over?

Thats not a appropriate joke, no matter the circumstances. If this is how you choose to lash out, then you might do with some thicker skin yourself.

[Gore1FL]

39. No. I am making fun of WI justice.

Try to keep up.

[Lancero]

42. No, you're making fun of kids getting run over.

Try to find a conscience.

[onenote]

43. So your first reaction to a horrific tragic event

is not to express concern for the victims, but to show how clever you can be by linking it to an unrelated event?

[Gore1FL]

45. My first post or my first concern?

Please understand that my thoughts aren't directly turned into DU posts.

If you wish to interject arbitrary outrage to feel superior, go for it.

[Lancero]

51. Their first reaction is to speak from their hearts.

Sadly, some people have a cesspool for a heart.

[ForgedCrank]

56. I think the last response is but validation.

It really is sad watching what happens here. Sad because most people here have good hearts and don't think that way.

[BlackSkimmer]

68. Boom!

[radius777]

52. +1. Conventional critiques are usually ineffective at exposing

the absurdities and illogic of oppressive systems. Humor/satire/art has typically been the only way to do so, as it 'breaks the frame' that the oppressor wants the discussion to take place within.

[Devil Child]

12. It appears so n/t

[Raine]

14. Lefties used to be compassionate and left that kind of thing

to the other side, sad it's come to this.

[BlackSkimmer]

16. This site has changed so much.

What a damn shame.

[Devil Child]

15. Press conference confirms loss of life

11 adults and 12 children to hospital.

In case anyone was needing material for future jokes

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. People desperately want to feel like these things happen elsewhere, to other people. And if they can

get a political or cultural dunk in on it, all the better.

[Boomerproud]

19. How embarrassing. I just read a post saying that the suspects

were simply fleeing and didn't look like they meant any harm. Unbelievable!

[BlackSkimmer]

20. I saw that too.

Time to sign off.

[BradAllison]

88. I think they were 100% serious

Which is far more frightening than the dumb jokes.

[ripcord]

21. It is disgusting

People killed but we might not have agreed with them so it is no big deal.

[DURHAM D]

22. It is not about "jokes"

It is the fact that we no longer have anything that slightly resembles justice in our court system.

It is cynicism not humor.

[BlackSkimmer]

23. This tragedy has zilch to do with that trial.

Good lord almighty.

[DURHAM D]

24. Settle down.

Really really not interested in your opinion.

[greenjar_01]

32. ...

[Lancero]

41. Settle down.

Really not interesting in people joking about kids getting run over.

[DURHAM D]

47. Reading is fundamental. nt

[Lancero]

49. So is a conscience.

I'm not the one joking about kids getting run over.

[DURHAM D]

53. Neither am I.

Again, READING IS FUNDAMENTAL.


Goodbye

[Lancero]

54. And so is knowing that some things aren't acceptable to joke about.

Even with the thin 'defense' of gallows humor.

Goodbye. May the next time you return, it be with a conscience.

[DURHAM D]

57. I hope it doesn't rain.

[BlackSkimmer]

72. Oh my!

What a riposte!

[BlackSkimmer]

69. Why'd you answer then?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

27. Some people really want to get their shots in

And they'll use dead children as a prop for it.

[ForgedCrank]

29. It's also inappropriate and unbecoming.

I find it to be in the poorest taste. We are supposed to be better.

[greenjar_01]

31. Accidentally saw your Judge Schroeder post on this unsigned-in

What a cast of characters upbraiding you in full sniff.

Good Lord! The Gunner All Stars!

[ForgedCrank]

28. Truly, it makes me ill when I see it.

The bile and everything being spilled constantly is very toxic. I do my best to look past 99% of it, but it's really difficult sometimes.
People wait patiently to find out how someone voted or if they supported Kyle Rittenhouse so they can decide whether to celebrate or be angry about those children being run over by a madman in a car. My God it's sick man.

[greenjar_01]

30. A hit dog will holler

And that's all I have to say about that.

[Devil Child]

33. A child hit by an SUV will holler, scream, and die

And that's all I have to say about that

[greenjar_01]

34. Oh so clever

Patting yourself on the back as usual.

And you're accusing others of taking advantage of this situation?

[BlackSkimmer]

70. So, if this had happened to a majority black crowd, and a white man did it...you'd feel the same?

You’d be joking about it, right?

Sure you would. Pull the other one

[BlackSkimmer]

71. No, that poster is speaking truth, not making jokes about dead children.

All because their parents may vote Republican. Smh.

[Diablo del sol]

66. Greenjar is right

Don’t recognize posts from him/her. Yours are memorable.

[Skittles]

35. I saw that

very disrespectful

[MustLoveBeagles]

58. I don't get it either

[liberalmediaaddict]

36. It's more cynicism than jokes.

I agree no one should be making fun of the tragedy or the victims.

However it's hard not to feel cynical and nihilistic
about the never-ending cycle of violence in this country. And to wonder if things are ever going to get better within the dysfunctional justice system we have and insane gun laws.

I mean Florida passed a law where it's legal to drive your car into a crowd of people if you feel your life is in danger.

I think a lot of Americans are afraid and feel powerless when they hear news like this so they respond with gallows humor. Because it feels like America is at the end of its rope.

[MustLoveBeagles]

60. I see what your saying and agree with much of it

Like you though, I don't think these victims should be exploited to make a point. It's in poor taste.

[onenote]

40. It's been an unfortunate feature on DU for as long as I've been here

And I've been here for 17 years.

[ForgedCrank]

59. It bothers me. Ive been reading here for probably a decade now,

and it's difficult to watch how some people behave. It isn't like we aren't all feeling the same way about events in WI. I'm mad too. But I have enough impulse control and civility to refrain from making jokes in the wake of dead children. It makes us all look bad.

[Raine]

65. Yes exactly. People feel how they feel but what you say aloud or

post should be within you to control. Not being self centered, but think about the hurt you bring to others by lack of control.

[cadoman]

44. I'm not sure what jokes you're referring to, but people process trauma differently

I do sometimes process trauma through humor and hope that myself or others like me haven't made it too difficult for you to process this situation in the way that's best for you.

[YoshidaYui]

48. wow

[radius777]

50. It's frustration and satire,

and about how some lives matter more than others, and how our system's convoluted logic is designed to maintain a white conservative order.

[onenote]

55. I see some convoluted logic here, but maybe not where you do.

[onenote]

61. Just learned that a family member who coaches a dance team in Waukesha

was at the parade with her team. Fortunately, they were not in the immediate vicinity of where the SUV plowed through the parade. But terrifying nonetheless.

I'll just add that while I was waiting to hear from family members who live in Waukesha that they were okay, seeing posts here that treated the event as an opportunity for some posters to show how clever they are by linking it to unrelated matters was disappointing (but not surprising).

[MustLoveBeagles]

63. I'm glad that your family member and her team are okay

[onenote]

64. Thanks.

[BlackSkimmer]

73. Yeah, we wouldn't be seeing these pathetic "jokes" were circumstances a bit different.

Or if any of the merry jokesters had family involved.

[sarisataka]

74. Very glad your relative and friends

Are safe. I know the stress family goes through when they are unsure if you were a victim in a tragedy.

I can only imagine, however, the feeling reading the sardonic posts of those thinking they are being clever.

All the best to you and your family member

[onenote]

75. thanks

[Devil Child]

89. That is way too close to home onenote

I am thankful and grateful they escaped harm. May they continue to be well in the days ahead. The trauma your family member’s dance team is going through right now is heartbreaking to think about.

Thank you for sharing. Small world indeed.

[onenote]

92. Yes it was. We have a lot of family in the Waukesha area.

Most weren't anywhere near the parade, but a cousin's daughter was and we're quite thankful that she (and her dance team) are safe (although the trauma of being nearby will linger I suspect).

[Texasgal]

62. No.

Not me atleast.

[madville]

76. There are some sick and racist folks that will celebrate and dismiss

Any tragedy they think involves white people in a right leaning area. They will claim gallows humor but do you think they would be joking if a white driver plowed through a group of Black people? Of course not.

Just look at some of the COVID threads, many posters celebrating the deaths of unvaccinated people because in their mind they have created an alternate reality where all unvaccinated people are Trump loving rednecks.

[BradAllison]

81. Those people made choices. And many of them went public proud of it.

They put a face to it, and shook their asses openly at "stupid sheep and libruls!!!!".

This incident isn't really the same.

[cinematicdiversions]

90. I am not sure the life expectancy of African American males dropping by two years

Is fodder for fun....

I mean, you do know close to a million Americans are dead, right?

They all are not all talk radio hosts.

[BradAllison]

91. They weren't the ones proudly voicing their lack of vax status to every CNN reporter in a diner n/m

[onenote]

93. Unfortunately, some prominent athletes (Black and White) were publicly taking an anti-vac stance

And in this country, athletes have disproportionate influence.

[BradAllison]

95. And they got blasted here as they should

Fuck Kyrie Irving and his "smartest guy in the room" act.

[BlackSkimmer]

82. Spot on. nt

[Devil Child]

87. +1 Madville!!!! n/t

[GusBob]

77. Dichotomy

DUers: FACEBOOK IS EVIL!!!!

After the Waukesha tragedy.....
Folks on FB: "Our hearts go out to the victims and the first responders....."
Folks on DU: "Knock knock....."

[Act_of_Reparation]

78. We've at least sunk to the point where people don't understand the functions of black comedy.

Different people process tragedy differently.

I'm sorry if it offends you, but some people deal with tragedy by laughing at it. You want wailing and gnashing of teeth? That's your prerogative.

[BradAllison]

80. I enjoy gallows humor as much as anyone

But this situation really ain't it. And quite frankly what I've seen here just plain stinks as "humor"

[Act_of_Reparation]

84. The prohibition on call-outs makes these threads futile endeavors.

I don't know what jokes you've seen. You don't know what jokes I've seen. Neither of us are allowed to provide examples.

I'll leave it at this:

Odds are very good some people are making bad jokes about this. Odds are also very good somebody somewhere is getting their undergarments in a twist over gallows humor.

[BradAllison]

86. I did it in another thread,

I suppose I will be alerted and censored at some point today. I do not care.

[BlackSkimmer]

96. There used to be such a prohibition, but I don't think that's the case anymore. nt

[Aristus]

79. My sig line is my response.

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[KY_EnviroGuy]

83. No, but I believe many have become complacent or numb to it.

KY..... .....

[AngryOldDem]

85. Saw those too.

The “humor” and the attempts to tie this to politics and Rittenhouse have been a bit much here today.

Some lowlife, criminal asshole was fleeing a scene of a crime and didn’t care what street he took to do it. As a result, people of all ages died. Period.

[Captain Stern]

97. "We"..no. Some folks have, but most have not.

Some folks get timing. Other folks don't.

I've definitely cringed at some of the comments I've seen. But, that's my take on the situation. Maybe it's an age thing or a perspective thing.

Life comes at you fast...get the jokes in before somebody else does?

In my opinion, there is nothing good about equating/comparing a bunch of folks getting hurt/killed just now to other incidents....just to make some comparison to other times it's happened before.

We can maybe learn a lot from those comparisons later. But, now is not the time.