I highly recommend Sympthsical's excellent analysis of the trial

[question everything]

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The Rittenhouse verdict should not have been a surprise

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216067887

I did not follow the actual trail but relied on the news so everything was new to me.


Wanted to add that what we are left is the fact that in many states - all of them? - individuals can walk in the streets as “neighborhood watch” or “helping control the riot” or “medics” and shoot and kill someone and will not be charged.

[Devil Child]

1. I agree question everything

Thoughtful, fact supported, and rational analysis on the Rittenhouse verdict is found in the link you provided. Sympthsical has provided consistent and valued posting and analysis on the Rittenhouse trial. Thank you for your patience and willingness to post your thoughts and observations Sympthsical.

[Tomconroy]

2. Sympthsical is the absolute cat's meow!

[Tommy Carcetti]

18. It was a great exercise in written self-gratification, I will give you that.

As is this post.

[Dial H For Hero]

3. Seconded. A great summation of the facts.

[KT2000]

4. by removing the gun charge

I believe the judge removed the shooter's intention for being there. I am still struck by the fact that he went there as a vigilante and set up a scene where anyone who was acting to protect others from a AR-15 toting teenager would be accused of assault. We are now through the looking glass - all open carry AR-15 shooters are innocent.

The shooters status as vigilante outweighs everyone else.

[Dial H For Hero]

5. How could he not? Rittenhouse was accused of having a "dangerous weapon" as defined by WI law.

That law defines a dangerous weapon as being one with a barrel of less than 16 inches. The rifle in question had a barrel longer than that.

Slam dunk.

[KT2000]

7. A minor in possession

was the charge. That really was a given.

[ripcord]

8. That charge doesn't apply to 17 year olds

Wisconsin statute 29.304(3)(b) states: "No person 14 years of age or older but under 16 years of age may have in his or her possession or control any firearm".

[KT2000]

11. Well, that is insanity

so it goes in America. The stupids will have their violence.

[ripcord]

15. It isn't unusual for 17 year olds to go hunting alone in Wisconsin

[KT2000]

22. What cuts of meat

does an AR-15 serve up?

[Dial H For Hero]

10. As the post above mine points out, that charge was not applicable.

[cadoman]

6. jury believed Shittenhouse acted in self defense -- you cannot just shoot blindly

It's critical to understand that. Firstly, there are numerous open carry states :

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/open-carry-states

You can carry in many other states too, but there will be local regulations to consider.

In all three instances the jury believed the evidence indicated Shittenhouse was acting in self defense. Our news professionals have obviously described a different story, but ultimately the jury saw what they saw and the prosecution was unsuccessful in portraying Shittenhouse as the instigator.

What you should be left with is this:

'Individuals can cross state lines, walk in the streets as “neighborhood watch” or “medic” and open carry, put out fires in public spaces, and shoot someone in self defense, as long as it's in accordance with all related state and local laws.'

and perhaps this:

'If I attempt to take a gun away from someone, chase after a person who has a gun, kick or hit a person who has a gun, or point a gun at a person who has a gun, they might shoot me and successfully claim self defense.'

And honestly that's something we should have understood before this trial. The only matters in question were whether Shittenhouse acted in self defense and the jury decided yes, against the broader narrative we've gotten from media professionals over many months. Probably the only reason we're so angry is the media sold us on a different outcome so hard. It's almost like they want us to be in a state of rage.

[question everything]

23. Thank you for stating it better.

What still boggles my mind is that he decided to travel from his current home in Illinois in order to “protect businesses.”.

Who asked him?

[Tommy Carcetti]

9. Okay?

How about any suggestions for dinner?

Honestly I thought it was over simplistic and trite, but—yay!—boosterism!

[Devil Child]

12. Brats

Thank you for the bumping this thread. A thread which helps bring welcome attention to Sympthiscial's well written OP found right here at

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216067887
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216067887
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216067887

[Tommy Carcetti]

13. How about some good Tulsi Gabbard threads?

Got any of those?

Or maybe some Epstein speculation posts?

[Devil Child]

14. Yes and yes

But you already have read them. Those and my helpful dinner rec. However, this thread is about pointing interested folks to Sympthsical's remarkable verdict break-down found over at link provided despite your attempts to shift elsewhere. Back to the spirit of this OP

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216067887
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216067887
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216067887

Check it out, good reading.

[Tommy Carcetti]

16. You're quite a curious one, Devil Child.

Curious indeed.

[question everything]

20. Frozen pizza will come out the oven in 5 minutes

After raking and bagging the last of the leaves, that’s all I am goo for

[Tommy Carcetti]

21. Well it is more informative than the post you boosted.

So thanks.

[Mr.Bill]

17. You can't open carry a gun in California.

There's even specific restrictions about carrying one in your car.

[Raine]

19. THANKS ... it's a well thought out post. 👍 nt

[Diablo del sol]

24. I highly recommend this for you boys

https://m.