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Help me out? (Original Post) kpete Nov 2021 OP
I got into it BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #1
I watched the trial on Court TV left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #2
It's frustrating BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2021 #3
There have been pro-Rittenhouse posts here on DU left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #6
NYTimes has a good rundown of the guns on the street issue. rgbecker Nov 2021 #4
A great post! lastlib Nov 2021 #5

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
1. I got into it
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:31 AM
Nov 2021

I got into it last night with two trump cultists over Rittenhouse. They kept on insisting that he was attacked and he was a "junior medic". I asked them to PLEASE tell me when have they ever seen a medic carrying an AR-15? I also asked them how they would feel and what would they do if someone walked in where we were right then with an AR-15?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. I watched the trial on Court TV
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:37 AM
Nov 2021

I may be mistaken but I think I heard in one of the videos where someone asked him if he was a certified EMT and he replied yes,
which of course was a lie.

I have known several EMTs as friends over the years and they have to go through lengthy training to become certified.

They don't just strap on a bag with a roll of gauze and instantly become certified.

Of course we all know this.
Just wanted to put in a cup my two cents.

When I hear the words 'junior medic' it reminds me of Donald Duck's nephews Huey Dewey and Louie.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
3. It's frustrating
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:44 AM
Nov 2021

It is so frustrating dealing with these people. They make up their own facts.

I lit the fuse last night when they told me I hate trump. I replied that trump and I have one thing in common; we both want to sleep with his daughter. Man did they blow their tops. I couldn't stop laughing.

rgbecker

(4,806 posts)
4. NYTimes has a good rundown of the guns on the street issue.
Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:49 AM
Nov 2021

[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/opinion/kyle-rittenhouse-guns.html|

I think they let you read 3 articles before you need to pay....anyway here are a few take-aways:

"But on Monday, the lead prosecutor, Thomas Binger, offered a meticulously documented closing argument that deftly summarized all the ways Rittenhouse acted unlawfully. We’ll see if the jury buys it, but to me Binger’s argument had a power beyond this case.

That’s because it cleverly unraveled some of the foundational tenets of gun advocacy: That guns are effective and necessary weapons of self-defense. That without them, lawlessness and tyranny would prevail. And that in the right hands — in the hands of the “good guys” — guns promote public safety rather than destroy it."


"In the Rittenhouse case, none of that was true. At every turn that night, Rittenhouse’s AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle made things worse, ratcheting up danger rather than quelling it. The gun transformed situations that might have ended in black eyes and broken bones into ones that ended with corpses in the street. And Rittenhouse’s gun was not just a danger to rival protesters. According to his own defense, the gun posed a grave threat to Rittenhouse himself — he said he feared being overpowered and then shot with his own weapon.

This is self-defense as circular reasoning: Rittenhouse says he carried a rifle in order to guarantee his safety during a violent protest. He was forced to shoot at four people when his life and the lives of other people were threatened, he says. What was he protecting everyone from? The gun strapped to his own body, the one he’d brought to keep everyone safe."

The Aubery shooting was also a fight over a gun brought out to a neighborhood picnic. The NRA is convincing young men to believe in the power of the gun and then leaves them either dead on the street or fighting in courts. I hope both the cases are resolved with jail time so the shooters can have some time to think about what they have done.

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