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spanone

(135,815 posts)
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 08:42 AM Nov 2021

In wake of Bannon indictment, Republicans warn of payback

GOP lawmakers say Democrats, by pursuing contempt charges against a Trump ally, are paving the way for them to go after Biden aides if they retake the House in 2022

Republicans are rallying around former White House adviser Stephen K. Bannon after his indictment on charges of contempt of Congress on Friday, warning that Democrats’ efforts to force Bannon to comply with what they say is an unfair subpoena paves the way for them to do the same if they take back the House in 2022.

Bannon, like former president Donald Trump, has refused to comply with an order from the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection to turn over records and testify about his actions leading up to the attack, when a pro-Trump mob stormed the U.S. Capitol trying to stop the certification of President Biden’s electoral college win.

Bannon is expected to turn himself in to law enforcement Monday ahead of a court appearance that afternoon. Democrats and a handful of anti-Trump Republicans argue that the indictment was necessary to enforce subpoenas issued by the Jan. 6 committee to Trump associates who are resisting cooperation and to witnesses summoned by other congressional panels.

Many GOP leaders, however, are seizing on Bannon’s indictment to contend that Democrats are “weaponizing” the Justice Department, warning Democrats that they will go after Biden’s aides for unspecified reasons if they take back the House majority in next year’s midterm elections, as most political analysts expect.


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In wake of Bannon indictment, Republicans warn of payback (Original Post) spanone Nov 2021 OP
Republicans have been threatening "payback" no_hypocrisy Nov 2021 #1
'Payback' for a slimy pos like Bannon. Wow. spanone Nov 2021 #5
The problem is that Republicans who misbehaved since Nixon have PufPuf23 Nov 2021 #31
Huh, which Dems plotted to overthrow the govt? intrepidity Nov 2021 #2
That won't stop Republicans; they'll just make something up, or NullTuples Nov 2021 #41
I'd like to know when trumpers KS Toronado Nov 2021 #3
Yeah, Ken Starr handled "Whitewater" with kid gloves thucythucy Nov 2021 #4
Right? Bettie Nov 2021 #6
That seems to be their go-to in any case. thucythucy Nov 2021 #7
David Simas refused in 2014 nuxvomica Nov 2021 #8
Eric Holder voluntarily testified 9 times, gab13by13 Nov 2021 #10
Holder refused HariSeldon Nov 2021 #13
That was long after the testimony and the charade had long played out...into nothing. Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2021 #32
Eric holder told Repugs to go pound sand. jimfields33 Nov 2021 #20
I say, so what? gab13by13 Nov 2021 #9
Ditto! ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #12
With Hillary, the Republicans have already paid it forward DFW Nov 2021 #11
+1 2naSalit Nov 2021 #17
Yeah, and not just Benghazi, either. GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #21
Screw them. tavernier Nov 2021 #14
Are they nervous about Bannon testifying? 70sEraVet Nov 2021 #15
He would likely brag about all of his involvement and dare a prosecution by a grand jury. machoneman Nov 2021 #29
If they would do away with the filibuster.... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2021 #16
Thanks but no thanks, we are already very good at expelling our criminals randr Nov 2021 #18
So what? If they're in a position to do so, they'll do it no matter what. JHB Nov 2021 #19
Actually, this is straight out of the Mafia's playbook. GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #24
ReTHUGs believe they are above the law malaise Nov 2021 #22
Agreed. Fuck them ALL. spanone Nov 2021 #23
Yup. Emphasis on "THUGS." GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #25
And they are THUGs malaise Nov 2021 #26
I guess Repubics are not The Wizard Nov 2021 #27
All they do when they have the House is go after Democrats. JFC, Benghazi... themaguffin Nov 2021 #28
Fear of payback is what let us get to this point in the first place Mr. Ected Nov 2021 #30
When the Democrats SUCCEED in their Jan. 6 investigation bluestarone Nov 2021 #33
I read this this morning and I really think they hate America and Alien Life Form Nov 2021 #34
2 things: CousinIT Nov 2021 #35
Which republicans? bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #36
As if they were'nt going to do it anyway. nt Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #37
Yawn Sugarcoated Nov 2021 #38
The problem is. . . Dems show up when called Johonny Nov 2021 #39
They're the ones who should be afraid of payback. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #40
Funny how what they call "Bipartisan" when Republicans are involved is... Hugin Nov 2021 #42

PufPuf23

(8,764 posts)
31. The problem is that Republicans who misbehaved since Nixon have
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 10:39 AM
Nov 2021

not been called to task since Nixon.

Think Nixon and Watergate.

Think Reagan / GHWB and Iran-Contra and BCCI Bank.

Think GWB and his cabal of war criminals.

Now Trump.

I find recent moves on 1/6, the arrest of Bannon today, and some of the other information now coming out encouraging.

intrepidity

(7,290 posts)
2. Huh, which Dems plotted to overthrow the govt?
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 08:55 AM
Nov 2021

Good luck with that "payback."

See, thing is, Dems have nowhere near as much to hide.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
41. That won't stop Republicans; they'll just make something up, or
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 03:38 PM
Nov 2021

go after Dems for things Republicans themselves have done. Consistency is not a virtue in their world, nor are things like honestly or honor.

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
3. I'd like to know when trumpers
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:02 AM
Nov 2021

are gonna start attacking anti-Trump Republicans, you'd think they hate them also.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
4. Yeah, Ken Starr handled "Whitewater" with kid gloves
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:02 AM
Nov 2021

and the whole orgy of Benghazi "investigations" were the epitome of non-partisan decorum.

Also--I don't recall a single member of the Obama/Biden administration, either while in office or after leaving, downright refusing to appear to testify in response to a Congressional summons. I don't expect this to change under Biden/Harris.

What are they going to do: charge people with actually showing up and telling the truth?

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
6. Right?
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:08 AM
Nov 2021

So, they are going to investigate, everything that has ever happened and subpoena everyone...and what? Make up stuff that never happened?

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
7. That seems to be their go-to in any case.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:13 AM
Nov 2021

To try to gain their favor by going soft on actual demonstrable law-breaking would seem to be a losing proposition.

nuxvomica

(12,419 posts)
8. David Simas refused in 2014
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:20 AM
Nov 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/16/us/politics/obama-official-wont-testify-to-congress.html
The White House said Tuesday night that it would refuse to allow its director of political strategy to testify Wednesday before a Republican-led House committee investigating whether the administration had illegally conducted political activity in the West Wing.

In a letter to Representative Darrell Issa, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, the president’s top lawyer said that as a member of the executive branch the political director, David Simas, had immunity from being compelled to testify before Congress
.

But he was a member of the Executive Branch at the time. Bannon can't claim that. And generally speaking, the Obama administration was much accommodating to congressional requests for testimony, including Secretary Clinton's marathon testimony at the Benghazi hearings.

gab13by13

(21,287 posts)
10. Eric Holder voluntarily testified 9 times,
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:23 AM
Nov 2021

on Fast and Furious which was basically a political stunt on GOP's part.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
13. Holder refused
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:28 AM
Nov 2021

In June of 2012, Eric Holder -- then Attorney General of the United States -- was held in contempt of Congress by the Republican-led House of Representatives. Holder had refused to produce certain documents related to Operation Fast and Furious.

jimfields33

(15,760 posts)
20. Eric holder told Repugs to go pound sand.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:36 AM
Nov 2021

That was perfect because Repugs just stomped their feet and turned red. Lol.

ProfessorGAC

(64,971 posts)
12. Ditto!
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:27 AM
Nov 2021

They've subpoenaed people in the past.
Nothing is different.
As you said, so what. Let them threaten.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
11. With Hillary, the Republicans have already paid it forward
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:25 AM
Nov 2021

After what they did to her, just what drastic moves do they think they have up their sleeves, anyway? Dragging former staffers in for endless testimony? Well, if they have the majority, and it ties them up from doing even worse things, I suppose they should go right ahead and be as useless as we have always said they are.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
21. Yeah, and not just Benghazi, either.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:39 AM
Nov 2021

The whole Whitewater witch-hunt, alone, paid it forward by multiple centuries. Ditto for their McCarthy "commie" witch hunts.

70sEraVet

(3,483 posts)
15. Are they nervous about Bannon testifying?
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:30 AM
Nov 2021

I know that the general consensus on DU is that Bannon would relish spending a year or two in jail, and that he is eager to attain his martyrdom for The Grand Orange Wizard.
Maybe the Republican leadership isn't so sure.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
16. If they would do away with the filibuster....
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:31 AM
Nov 2021

And pass the voter rights bills, including making gerrymandering illegal, we wouldn’t have to worry about that bullshit.

But I agree with the sentiment above;

So what?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
19. So what? If they're in a position to do so, they'll do it no matter what.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:35 AM
Nov 2021

They'd just call it "playing hardball" instead of payback.

This is just "No fair hitting back!" whining.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
24. Actually, this is straight out of the Mafia's playbook.
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:43 AM
Nov 2021

It's the kind of threats mobsters and thugs make. And, that is basically what this party is: a bunch of thuggish criminals.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
27. I guess Repubics are not
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 09:48 AM
Nov 2021

the law enforcement party. An attempted coup d'etat is a serious and possibly capital offense. Maybe if Bannon had a stained blue dress and a mouthful of DNA evidence they'd want him jailed for contempt.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
30. Fear of payback is what let us get to this point in the first place
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 10:12 AM
Nov 2021

Anyone willing to commit to office as a Democrat these days will need to be a profile in courage. The fascists have already distorted our justice system; if we don't move forward now and with conviction, this democratic experiment will have failed and we'll all be fighting for the crumbs.

Alien Life Form

(370 posts)
34. I read this this morning and I really think they hate America and
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 10:46 AM
Nov 2021

have decided that if they cannot rule they will ruin and if they do rule..they will still ruin..I never saw such a crazy bunch and I don't think there has been such a blatant attack on the democratic experiment since the Civil War. I just cant believe the hate that is running rampant in the GOP

CousinIT

(9,238 posts)
35. 2 things:
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 10:49 AM
Nov 2021

1. CONS weaponized the DoJ THEMSELVES under Trump and will again - no matter what happens with Bannon.
2. CONS ALWAYS project, accusing Democrats of that which THEY THEMSELVES are guilty.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
36. Which republicans?
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 10:57 AM
Nov 2021

As usual, another bullshit story/fluff piece example of crappy American journalism.

Four paragraphs of generalizations about a topic we already expect to take place.

After Cronkite passed the spiral began.

Hugin

(33,112 posts)
42. Funny how what they call "Bipartisan" when Republicans are involved is...
Mon Nov 15, 2021, 03:41 PM
Nov 2021

"Democrats and a handful of anti-Trump Republicans" when the shoe is on the other foot.

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