Let's remember, for the record, that Bannon's indictment was not produced by Garland.

[Grasswire2]

Give credit where credit is due:

The Bannon indictment stemmed from the congressional Jan 6th committee when they referred Bannon to DoJ for indictment after he ignored a congressional subpoena.

It was the work of the committee that produced the evidence.

[dalton99a]

1. But he could have refused to do his job

[Hortensis]

26. The OP didn't know what REFERRED FOR INDICTMENT to Garland means,

so obviously doesn't realize deciding to indict or not and issuing indictments IS AG Garland's job.

But your sarcasm's not wasted on...how many? I often wish we had a click counter.

[bigtree]

2. give credit to the DA

...who got an indictment from the grand jury in a WEEK after taking office.

[Grasswire2]

4. that, too!

....based on the work of the Committee.

[Hortensis]

28. Still haven't learned the AG's DoJ decides whether or not to indict AND

if yes, issues the indictment? Read down. Or up.

Better yet, why not give it up?

[elleng]

3. 'stemmed from,' and was presented to a Grand Jury by

the Department of Justice.

[stopdiggin]

10. +100. cutting Garland out of the loop

is a pretty big stretch ...

okay - how 'bout inventive contortion .. ?

- “Since my first day in office, I have promised Justice Department employees that together we would show the American people by word and deed that the department adheres to the rule of law, follows the facts and the law and pursues equal justice under the law,” said Attorney General Merrick B. Garland. “Today’s charges reflect the department’s steadfast commitment to these principles.”

- The case is being investigated by the FBI’s Washington Field Office. The case is being prosecuted by the Public Corruption and Civil Rights Section of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia.

- justice.gov

-

[elleng]

11. Thanks

[Hortensis]

30. "Inventive contortion." Not familiar with that term.

Is it something like a cranial inversion?

'"...the department adheres to the rule of law, follows the facts and the law and pursues equal justice under the law...,”'

Yes. The Democrats are in charge now.

[Budi]

5. Shit on garland week was over yesterday.

Just fyi.


"AG Garland vows to apply 'facts & the law' if House sends Bannon contempt charge to DOJ."

Link to tweet

[Ohio Joe]

6. +1 - nt

[Kaleva]

7. +2

[CrackityJones75]

8. +3

[mzmolly]

15. + 4

[ShazzieB]

23. I agree!

I have a sneaking suspicion that it may never be over for some people, but hopefully they are a small minority. 🤞

[calimary]

32. Indeed.

[mcar]

47. This!

[Hav]

9. Is that the new narrative

after shitting on Garland and calling for his firing on an almost daily basis? Ok, I guess.
Slightly better than believing that social media pressured him into doing it.

[Budi]

13. Oh ya. 🤪 "social media pressured him into doing it"

"Slightly better than believing that social media pressured him into doing it."

[mcar]

48. It's hard to give up on a narrative, I guess

[Texaswitchy]

12. Let's see what happens with Trump.

Still not happy with Garland.

Time is going fast.

Midterms are coming fast.

The Republicans will go after Biden and Harris if they take over.

Voters are watching.

Garland needs to get moving.

[Budi]

14. Ok. Let's forget about shit on Garland week about Bannon, & move right on to Trump!

And when Garland takes down Trump what will be the next shit on Garland social media meme?

Think I'll go with, "He didn't do it fast enough!"

[Budi]

20. Ya. Because armchair AGing is so much simpler than actually digging into the reems of data, protocol

...and legalese that an ACTUAL AG is required to do, to secure an airtight-as-possible "case against a criminal supported by an International criminal network.

JFC.

[ShazzieB]

24. Than you for this comment, and for all your comments in this post.

Reading some of these comments makes me mad enough to spit. Then I come to one of your replies, and it's like a cold drink of water on a hot day.

Keep up the good work.

[Budi]

36. Joyce White Vance said it perfectly.

Link to tweet

“We want a system of govt in which the rule of law works, not one that responds to crowds that loudly chant “lock him up”..while it’s not easy to live thru the struggle to restore a functioning democracy, the hard work & even the waiting are worth doing”


Merrick Garland.
1995 OK City Fed Building Bombing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/merrick-garland-oklahoma-city-bombing/2021/02/19/a9e6adde-67f2-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html

This is why I'm 'good' with AG Garland.

Thanks 👍

[ProfessorGAC]

54. If I Could Rec A Post...

...I'd rec this one.
Democracy & the rule of law require patience.
But alas, authoritarian tendencies are not the sole property of the far right.

[stopdiggin]

55. nailed it

screeching at the ramparts is not justice - or law.

(and now the next comment will be something about 'perilous times' and threatened democarcy - as a way to add gravitas to the "lock him up" chant)

[sheshe2]

57. +1000

[Joinfortmill]

31. 👍

[Texaswitchy]

41. What happens if we loose in the midterms.

The Republicans will be in charge.

We had bunch of new voters that wanted Trump to go to jail.

Maybe they will stay home in the midterms.

What more does Garland need on Trump.


Garland is 68, I will be 68 soon.

Good Bannon is on the hook but we need Trump also.

[Budi]

43. Well we're not there yet are we.

I sure hope AG Garland reads all the armchair AGers on social media so he knows of the looming deadline!

[Texaswitchy]

56. Hope so to.

I do not hate him.

He is not cut for the job.

He is to old school.

We needed a ass kicking AG.

[Demsrule86]

17. He is being charged with fraud as well.

[Demsrule86]

19. More crapping on Garland...

[MineralMan]

21. And who, exactly, is the Attorney General of the United States?

The congressional committee can't indict anyone for anything. They can investigate stuff, but it is the DOJ who sends information to the grand jury for a possible indictment. And who is in charge of the DOJ? AG Garland is.

If you're going to blame Garland for not doing what you think he should as quickly as you think he should, then you need to give him credit for the indictment, too. It happened under his leadership of the DOJ. He's the boss there. He directs the activities of the DOJ. He gets the blame AND he gets the credit, as well.

For weeks, people here have been saying that indictments take time. And so they do. People who know nothing about how this all wors were impatient and blamed Garland. Now, Bannon has been indicted. I promise you that there will be other indictments associated with January 6, as well. They will come when the investigations and grand jury hearings are complete. They will come one at a time when they are ready and the grand jury issues the indictment.

But, everyone of those has AG Garland's fingerprints on it. He is the Attorney General, and the buck at the DOJ stops with him.

[Joinfortmill]

33. 👍

[Budi]

37. Thank you. "Do not bury the crime in the clutter," 1995 Merrick Garland/OK City Bombing

President Biden chose Merrick Garland for all the right reasons.
Domestic Terrorism.


OK City Fed Building Bombing.
Conviction of Tim McVeigh
National Security
How the Oklahoma City bombing case prepared Merrick Garland to take on domestic terrorism
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/merrick-garland-oklahoma-city-bombing/2021/02/19/a9e6adde-67f2-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html

SNIP
“Do not bury the crime in the clutter,” he said.

Garland, then a top Justice Department official, was encouraging prosecutors to speed the trial along and jettison superfluous findings in their case against Timothy McVeigh, who was convicted of carrying out the 1995 attack and executed in 2001, said Joe Hartzler, the team’s lead attorney. Hartzler said he found the advice so compelling that he wrote the words on a sheet of paper and hung it on an office wall as a rallying cry for his team
More...

This is a good reminder where AG Garland is at today, again.

[NurseJackie]

22. Ho-hum.

[ShazzieB]

25. Oh, for the love of puppies and kittens!

Seriously?

[DallasNE]

27. It Is Somewhat Unusual For

A Congressional committee recommendation to be followed up by DOJ submitting it to a Grand Jury, resulting in an indictment as there are separation of power issues to be overcome. As desirable as an indictment is, it was far from assured that one would result. This is a good piece of work by both the J.House committee and DOJ. This is being done right and for the right reason.

[Grasswire2]

39. yes

The idea that a co-equal branch of government (Congress) should (or must) ever refer enforcement of its subpoena to another branch of government (DoJ - executive) is very troublesome, especially in this circumstance where the indictment is of a traitor and when Congress has its own inherent power to compel testimony.

It IS a separation of powers issue.

When we ask why it was done this way, referring to DoJ for enforcement of Congressional subpoena, we are told that 1. Congress hasn't jailed anyone for a very long time and 2. facilities are not readily available for this.

Both of those factors are meaningless. If deterrence is a significant reason here to hold these scofflaws to justice, jailing them immediately could have been accomplished by the powers of Congress, and the shock and awe of an early morning no-knock raid and arrest, televised, would have been priceless in deterrent value.

Allowing Bannon time to turn himself in after the weekend means setting aside the deterrent value of an arrest.

Opportunity gone.

[Joinfortmill]

29. The DOJ convened a grand jury. Enough already.

[calimary]

34. Frankly, I don't give a hoot HOW it got done. Just THAT it got done.

[Beastly Boy]

35. Is this Garland envy I am detecting?

Obviously, the indictment was produced neither by Garland nor by the congressional committee. It was issued by the Grand Jury.

But we only need to know it wasn't Garland, right?

[Grasswire2]

38. the investigative work was done by the committee.

Why is it that you don't want to give our elected members of Congress credit for their months of work?

[Beastly Boy]

42. Because I am a sucker for accuracy.

In the course of their investigation, the congressional committee ordered Bannon to appear. He didn't. The committee referred him to DOJ for contempt of congress based entirely on one fact: he didn't appear. DOJ investigated this referral and, based on evidence DOJ produced, referred his charges of contempt of congress to a grand jury. Grand jury indicted Bannon.

The congressional committee was not involved between the time they referred the charges to DOJ and the indictment by the grand jury.

I am giving all the credit to congressional committee for investigating January 6. I will give them more credit as they investigate further. But, since they were not involved in indicting Bannon past their referral to DOJ, it would be ridiculous to accuse me of not giving them credit where credit is not due.

Don't worry, the members of the committee are adult enough to forgive my transgression.

[Grasswire2]

44. the committee was not required to refer to DoJ.

They did, and the separation of powers is troubling in this momentous cause.

But I think we can all agree that having Bannon face arraignment (despite the strong arguments that he is very happy to be arraigned and even to do some jail time for Trump in order to have those "creds" and despite the absence of a televised arrest as a deterrent to others) is better than it not happening.

[Beastly Boy]

50. Sorry, I don't see a connection between this post and your OP

I am especially perplexed with your separation of powers reference and why you find separation of powers troubling.

Neither reflect on Garland or your sentiment that follows (which, BTW I am in full agreement with, but that's a whole separate thread).

[George II]

40. Give credit where credit is due: The Department of Justice produced the indictment....

Now that Garland's DOJ has returned an indictment after 17 days of complaining, you're trying to find some way of claiming it wasn't Garland's doing after all?

Using that logic, for the record, Bannon's indictment was not produced by Garland OR the Jan 6th committee, it was produced by Bannon himself.

Had he not ignored the subpoena he wouldn't have been indicted. So let's give BANNON a deserving round of applause!!!

[Budi]

46. Thanks Bannon! He must have caved to social media pressure too!!

Imagine that 😄

[CaptainTruth]

45. When do we go back to "Pelosi is complicit"?

[mcar]

49. It's apparently still "Garland sucks" week on some schedules

"Pelosi sucks" week will be announced later - could be as soon as tomorrow.

[George II]

51. Thankfully tomorrow is Sunday, the start of a new week.

[sarisataka]

52. If it wasn't up to Garland

Why were so many pissing and moaning about him?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

53. DC USAO Matthew Graves, who was sworn in on Friday, Nov. 5.

Link to tweet