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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 07:24 PM Nov 2021

Medicare Part B outpatient premium to see one of its largest hikes ever

https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/nation-world/medicare-part-b-outpatient-premium-increase/507-d9f8a58b-706c-453c-b222-73e08cd34391

WASHINGTON — Medicare's “Part B” outpatient premium will jump by $21.60 next year, one of the largest increases ever. Officials said Friday a new Alzheimer's drug is responsible for about half of that.

The increase guarantees that health care costs will gobble up a big chunk of the recently announced Social Security cost-of-living allowance, a boost that had worked out to $92 a month for the average retired worker.

More at link. How does drug impact this? Should this not be a Part D issue?
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Medicare Part B outpatient premium to see one of its largest hikes ever (Original Post) SheltieLover Nov 2021 OP
When I reached medicare age I thought great, finally free and clear of health insurance worries Woodswalker Nov 2021 #1
Why is a drug impacting Part B? SheltieLover Nov 2021 #2
Per the article: Tanuki Nov 2021 #3
Thats bs, imo. SheltieLover Nov 2021 #4
Some drug costs are covered by part B -- progree Nov 2021 #7
Thx SheltieLover Nov 2021 #9
You're welcome. Medicare is a wonderously complex program that gets more complex every year progree Nov 2021 #10
True, but this drug is an outlier on costs SheltieLover Nov 2021 #11
I'm not knowledgable about this particular drug. But my impression is that its little benefit at progree Nov 2021 #13
Thx for sharing SheltieLover Nov 2021 #17
I'm pretty sure Medigap policies don't cover drugs except those covered by Part B progree Nov 2021 #18
I enrolled my husband in a Part D program for only $7 a month for the same reason. Native Nov 2021 #26
Same here. Mugu Nov 2021 #28
It's sad and maddening when you realize how behind we are for a "developed" country. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #22
When I turned 65, my insurance went UP $148 a month and does't cover nearly as Ferrets are Cool Nov 2021 #24
Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #5
That is insane that one drug can cost that much dsc Nov 2021 #6
And both its efficacy & the approval process contentious SheltieLover Nov 2021 #8
Oddly Enough... ProfessorGAC Nov 2021 #12
That is weird SheltieLover Nov 2021 #15
I hate how complicated it all is. Akacia Nov 2021 #14
Absolutely! SheltieLover Nov 2021 #16
The "insurance company" for straight Medicare (Medicare Part A & B) is the government progree Nov 2021 #19
And EVERY year you have to do research for several months catrose Nov 2021 #20
Really. I just went a round with my insurance and Medicare. We shouldn't have to worry about this. Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #21
I am in total agreement with single payer. Akacia Nov 2021 #29
I'm just starting to research it all, and it is mind-numbingly, unnecessarily complicated (and $$) Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #23
and almost nothing for preventative (dental, vision, hearing). Just coverage when you have a life Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #25
Of course Medicare is going up. This is how government routinely offsets COLA Cozmo Nov 2021 #27
 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
1. When I reached medicare age I thought great, finally free and clear of health insurance worries
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 07:28 PM
Nov 2021

Haa, not a chance in this shithole country

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
3. Per the article:
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 07:34 PM
Nov 2021

..."The drug would add to program costs because it's administered in a doctor's office and paid for under Medicare's outpatient benefit."

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. Thx
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 08:11 PM
Nov 2021


Ps - This one should not be! Both efficacy & approval process quite questionable, at best. And why charge everyone?

progree

(10,901 posts)
10. You're welcome. Medicare is a wonderously complex program that gets more complex every year
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 08:21 PM
Nov 2021

"Why charge everyone?"

That's how insurance is supposed to work. Though note that people on regular Medicare without a supplement plan aka Medigap pay 20% of part B costs, which can be a horrendous sum.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. True, but this drug is an outlier on costs
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 08:24 PM
Nov 2021

I do not have Part D for several reasons. Not interested in paying for this.

So the deductible goes up & Part B goes up. Of course gap cost goes up.

Where is the great benefit increase?

progree

(10,901 posts)
13. I'm not knowledgable about this particular drug. But my impression is that its little benefit at
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 08:49 PM
Nov 2021

great cost. So you have a valid point.

As a side note, an interesting thing about Part D - for late enrollment, there is a lifetime penalty, a surcharge of a certain amount per month one is late in enrolling (this is charged every month once one does enroll).

I did the math, and found it was cheaper to enroll on time in a Part D program (the premium is $30/month or so a month), even though I don't use any prescription drugs, than to face the late enrollment penalty in later years when I likely -- almost certainly -- would need some part D drugs.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
17. Thx for sharing
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:10 PM
Nov 2021

Yes, I'd read that & opted for a top gap policy instead of drug coverage. Ridiculous policy to charge a lifetime penalty.

progree

(10,901 posts)
18. I'm pretty sure Medigap policies don't cover drugs except those covered by Part B
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:18 PM
Nov 2021

That's true for ALL Medigap policies by law.

I have a Medigap policy too. And a Part D policy. And original Medicare. 3 premiums, thank goodness for autopay (Part B is deducted from my S.S. check).

(In contrast, most Medicare Advantage plans do have drug coverage, beyond part B drugs, including the kinds that are covered by Part D plans . Most M.A. plans, but not all of them).

The Medicare Part B and D penalties for late enrollment is like the ACA's penalty for not enrolling (now zeroed out) -- so people don't game the system by not enrolling when they are relatively young and healthy, thus causing all the cost burden to be borne by the unhealthiest and oldest. To even things out. We're very likely to be old and unhealthy some day.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
24. When I turned 65, my insurance went UP $148 a month and does't cover nearly as
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:23 PM
Nov 2021

much as ObamaCare. What a country, right?

Response to SheltieLover (Original post)

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
12. Oddly Enough...
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 08:28 PM
Nov 2021

...my part D coverage premium goes down starting January 1. BlueCross PDP.
And, a cheap, generic BP med I had to cover out of pocket ($63 for 3 months) was not on the formulary, but will be 1/1/22.
So Part B is spiking up, but my Part D is going down.
I don't know what that means, I just found it weird.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
15. That is weird
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:05 PM
Nov 2021

Glad your meds will be covered for you.

I don't have a Part D, partly because of cost & partly because the more reasonable plans don't do much to reduce cost of inhalers, which would be about the only meds I would need. 😏

Akacia

(583 posts)
14. I hate how complicated it all is.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 08:57 PM
Nov 2021

I blame the insurance companies for this. There really is no reason for it to be.

progree

(10,901 posts)
19. The "insurance company" for straight Medicare (Medicare Part A & B) is the government
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 09:34 PM
Nov 2021

It's straight Medicare Part B (Uncle Sam) that is deciding to cover this drug and increase the Part B premium.

Whereas private insurance companies, and only private insurance companies, sell Medigap (aka Supplement) policies, Part D, and Medicare Advantage.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
20. And EVERY year you have to do research for several months
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:15 PM
Nov 2021

because the insurance companies change their offerings.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
21. Really. I just went a round with my insurance and Medicare. We shouldn't have to worry about this.
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:15 PM
Nov 2021

Especially when you are sick and under duress.

Or your loved one is.

And you can't understand the damn insurance forms.

Or know where to get the money to keep creditors off your back.

Single payer, please.








Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
25. and almost nothing for preventative (dental, vision, hearing). Just coverage when you have a life
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:23 PM
Nov 2021

threatening issue from the lack of preventive. As my dear Italian friends would say: "It maka no sense" while doing the international symbol for crazy by circling ear multiple times with index finger... Seriously, we are a third-world country for health care and it is strictly pharma and giant "health-care providers" essentially running Congress and making the rules, challenged by a small minority.

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
27. Of course Medicare is going up. This is how government routinely offsets COLA
Fri Nov 12, 2021, 10:29 PM
Nov 2021

Seniors can always count on this insult to their dignity.

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