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Update: Anyone interested, last Thursday bought a drug test at Walmart and it showed negative. Friday I went down to take the pee test and found out today that I passed. Yea me. I start Friday. Hoops to jump thru to get a job. Thanks for everyone's help, telling me about the tests sold in stores and giving me the confidence taking the test with all the information provided in this thread.
I have a job I am starting 11/15 and there is a drug test, urine. I have only done it once before and I know it came up that I had done pot because I was smoking almost daily and just a couple days before I took the test, but they hired me anyway. That was 3 months ago. I got another job and I will have to do another test. I do not think this job will hire me if I come up with pot. Upside is I haven't felt like pot for a couple three months. I ate an edible a couple times in Aug, none in Sept. Oct a friend came over on 10/9. Two puffs from a joint and less than a week after that I had an edible. And I have not had any since, I do not think. Maybe one more edible somewhere around beginning of Oct but I do not think so.
I have not done the test enough to have experience how it will show. I know we do not know, and all kinds of factors involved but what is you best guess on this test. I do not want to quit the current job if I do not pass this test, for sure. But I would rather not go to work tomorrow.
And I am in Eugene and just as legal to have an edible as have a glass of wine, for anyone thinking I am a law breaker.
Thanks
WhiteTara
(30,262 posts)that goldenseal powder washes thc. I have no idea, I never tried it. But also, it's legal in that state. Good luck, I hope you like your job.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)and though really good pay, stressful in all I was learning but I did really well and became number one (saying I got good, lol), life is too short for me being old to be in a toxic work environment every. single. day. Just not worth it. This one is much more independence and out and about and the same good pay. I am excited. Much less stress and much easier learning curve.
dclarston13
(432 posts)Before your test it's a good idea to pay for a separate independent test. If you fail that stall for time for whatever reason you come with, saying you have a positive COVID test works well these days. I don't really know if the cleansing agents work or not. Not worth the risk in my opinion. I worked with folks that swore by Certo (which is used for canning) https://wayofleaf.com/detox/brands/certo-drug-test-full-review
I don't know how they used it but they said it worked. But the whole thing kind of depends on how bad you want the job, if they have random testing just resolve to give up smoking weed and move on if you pass the test.
Personally I think drug testing, is a violation of our freedoms and should be abolished.
TxGuitar
(4,287 posts)WhiteTara
(30,262 posts)I use it for wounds and internal healing, I've never tried to flush cannabis from my system.
Boxerfan
(2,533 posts)I'm mildly overweight but a heavy smoker. I was clean one month and I still came up dirty but it was a very low reading. One month is the told average.
I'd wager you are fine.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)overweight on the scales and certainly not hitting the obese mark (which is not that high btw). So I am going to assume I am ok on that end. I have heard that. Ok, thanks. I am pretty confident too. I want to hear others so I am more confident. Thanks.
ProfessorGAC
(70,993 posts)None of the tests used for employment screening or random testing have the detectability advertised.
The "one week, spit; one month, urine: 9 months, hair" stuff is drug war nonsense. It was part of the "Reefer Madness" scare tactics.
There are analytical methods that can do that, but they're very costly.
The simpler tests, spectrometric, FID gas chromatography, HPLC, are more affordable but have mediocre levels of detection. So, at very low levels of the analyte, true quantization is poor.
For an airline pilot, or train driver, or crane operator, the use of more accurate, more detailed, but expensive, broad spectrum testing may be appropriate.
But, 99% of us would not have the job requirements calling for the costs involved.
Basically, we can divide the amount of time claimed by 3.
When we were doing the spit test on random tests for 2% of everyone in the company (US sites) each month, I got called 2 days after I smoked. I tested negative.
I've worked in labs with the more sophisticated methods, and it's expensive because not only is the hardware pricey, but the operation has to be done by an expert.
Not sure how you showed any detectable level after a month. I truly think it's more likely they lied to you about detecting anything.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)are not that sensitive. I read they are high at 50 whatever instead of the more sensitive 25 whatever. This was on the company website. That they work at not trapping a person. That if doing it here and there then the urine test would come out negative with a one time use in like 5 days. Daily, constant, heavy users can be up to a month.
ProfessorGAC
(70,993 posts)...dropped pot from their employment screening & random test regime.
Their legal group started to have concerns over lawsuits for discipline, once it became fully legal here. It was seen as an unwarranted intrusion into employees' personal lives, and could cause the company to lose such lawsuits.
A lot of this testing came from liability insurers threatening to raise rates if they didn't test for drugs.
The insurers have gotten massive pushback for premium payers over it, and most have relented. The threat of premium increases if pot is not a target analyte have dissipated greatly.
They still test for opioids, coke, & amphetamines but not pot.
I'm surprised a similar thing hasn't happened given your state is pot legal, too.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)of companies. And even if tests come up positive with pot they still hire, indicative of me being hired to a call center when I well know I tested positive. But, the job I am getting is driving for Quest Diagnostic that makes money off this and has me in a company vehicle. So I understand a little more, but yes, I hope it migrates to more what you are talking because though I would like to work for them long term, I do not know that I am willing to commit to not doing pot long term. I just have not felt like doing it lately, which to me is more my business than theirs. I will see once I get into the company, how stringent they really are.
womanofthehills
(9,386 posts)And you should be fine. Other recommendations online say to take lots of B vitamins.
marble falls
(62,658 posts)LizBeth
(10,935 posts)I think not. Funny you. I am going late in the afternoon. I hear it is better than your early morning pee. And I gotta tell you I know way more about pee than I ought to know. And all the others that will be familiar with me pee and listening at the door. THE most dehumanizing exercise we allow ourselves to be put thru.
ShazzieB
(19,054 posts)I don't know much about the sensitivity of drug tests, except in the case of ADHD drugs (which show up as amphetamines). I'm not on any drugs for ADHD now, but I had to do it once when I was taking Vyvanse, and what a royal pain that was! I tried to tell them about it when I went for the test, even brought my prescription bottle, but they didn't want to hear about it.
So I went ahead and did the test, and OF COURSE I came up positive for amphetamines. And guess what. I had to make another trip back over there and show my prescription. What a ridiculous waste of time!
Sorry for the digression. I know it doesn't have any bearing on your situation, other than how silly drug testing is in general!
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)up side that may well have cleaned me out pretty good, lol. B vit I am hearing is to make pee yellow because they get pissed with lots of water. I will have to remember to pick some up Monday. I figure I will do it like Thursday.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,672 posts)I overdid it, my sample came back diluted, and I needed to do a hair test.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)the pee yellow.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,672 posts)It was a situation where I hadnt had any in years, then smoked out over the weekend and got hit with a random on Monday. Ended up passing, but I was worried.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)and I will find out more once in it. But I have never proclaimed I want to be a never user again, even for a job and they do random from what I hear. I do not like that. We will have to see how that works.
But yea you.
Philosophizing Fool
(73 posts)Water and water soluble molecules will help with urine tests. Aspirin, vitamins B & C, essentially dilute your urine with water and increase the molecular weight of your liquid waste with the easily passed molecules. If asked, tell the administrators that your urologist recommended 100 oz of water a day to combat kidney stones.
If a hair test, well wish and hope, sorry, beyond my knowledge.
Walleye
(36,732 posts)I was heavily smoking pot in those days when they told me I had to get a drug test to get my dream job.I used the goldenseal and drink gallons and gallons of distilled water. They also said take B vitamins. I passed the test, at least they said I did,and I kept the job for 20 years. Best of luck. Funny the stupid anti-VAX ors and anti-maskers never seem to object to drug test in the workplace. I think I got advice from the NORML website
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)I am going to have to look up goldenseal. Thanks for the info.
ProfessorGAC
(70,993 posts)People consuming copious amounts of distilled water have died from hyponatremia.
It's a very simple way to badly screw up one's blood electrolyte balance.
My wife had hypoNa as a result of a side effect of a psych med.
Normal range is 135-145mg per liter of blood.
She was at 100 and dropping, and IVs of saline weren't doing anything.
Her blood sodium was dangerously low but urine sodium was high, so she simply wasn't absorbing any salts. Equilibrium & diffusion results in the body shedding it.
She was hospitalized for 3 days and was a physical mess. Had I not figured out she was on that new med and insisted she get off it, it might have been a week.
I was told that 90mg/liter is the LD50. (50% of people hitting 90, die.). She was at 96 for 30 hours.
She went off the meds. 12 hours later she was at 105. 6 hours after that she was at 120.
By the next morning she was back to normal.
Very tense time, and I don't wish it on anybody.
Having self-inflicted that malady by drinking demineralized water is something I hope to dissuade.
Walleye
(36,732 posts)LizBeth
(10,935 posts)state I lived. It was so salty it didn't quench thirst. When I tasted the water here, I was thrilled.
ProfessorGAC
(70,993 posts)I live in a town with a river.
Our water quality is in the top 2% of the state.
Yet, people buy bottled water by the case!
I can see if one knows the water quality is rotten, but around here I think it's silly.
We have some unincorporated areas and people use those filling machines at the supermarket for the 3 & 5 gallon jugs.
But, they probably have a well and well water around here is loaded with iron, especially iron sulfates. Tastes awful. Those folks buying water, I get.
Walleye
(36,732 posts)ProfessorGAC
(70,993 posts)Not only that, but our dentist actually said the bottled water increased his practice's revenue by 40% above what he ever expected.
Why? Cavities in kids!
Walleye
(36,732 posts)Twas ever thus. They fought over this issue politically throughout my whole childhood, and my dentist had plenty of work. I remember one right wing nut job who used to write letters to the editor every day about how fluoridation would ruin our young men. Thats where the precious bodily fluids character came from in Strangelove. Unfortunately I still suffer from dentist bills. I think of this when I hear the nut jobs talking about their preferred treatment for Covid
Haggard Celine
(17,066 posts)they shouldn't be testing people for it. It ought to be illegal to do that, but of course corporations can pretty much do whatever they want to these days. It's like testing people for alcohol use. Anyway, though, you should pass the test since you haven't used pot that much. You shouldn't have enough THC in your system to fail. Just in case, though, drink a lot of cranberry juice before you take the test. I smoking weed regularly at one time and had to pass a drug screen to get a job. I drank about a half gallon of cranberry juice before I took the test and I passed. Good luck!
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)not be testing for pot. I think it is dying down a bit with pot, but this will be me driving a company vehicle so I understand a little more but it is like a glass of wine and they are not testing for that. Just assumes we will not drink while driving. I know I had to have failed with the last one and they still hired. I was answering a damn phone. None of their business if I went home and smoked a joint.
Groundhawg
(1,047 posts)Haggard Celine
(17,066 posts)they won't say anything about it. I've taken tests before when I had a prescription for the drugs I took. Sometimes they ask about it, other times they don't mention it. I think some of the tests don't screen for prescription drugs, just illegal ones. Big Pharma doesn't want people to fail drug tests for taking their drugs, but it's just fine for people who use pot.
Groundhawg
(1,047 posts)and the #1 thing they check for.
Haggard Celine
(17,066 posts)Where it asks for a list of all the prescription drugs I take, I'm always honest. I'm not on painkillers anymore, at least not opiate painkillers, just Lyrica. I think Lyrica is a controlled substance, but it's not usually the kind of drugs people look for. I've always had prescriptions for everything except the weed, of course.
I've been on a lot of meds for a long time, although only 1 or 2 pain meds at a time. It's been at least 7 years since I took a drug screen, so things might have changed. But, like I say, if you don't write a drug down on the sheet before you take the test, and it pops up in the screening, they likely won't hire you. And make sure you don't have anything in your system that might make you fail.
I think it just takes a few days to get opiate painkillers out of your system. I know that when I went to the pain clinic, if you hadn't taken the drug in more than a few days, it wouldn't show up in their test. So if you took any painkillers you didn't have a prescription for, give it a few days before you take a drug test. I have no idea how to cover up opiate use in the urine.
Groundhawg
(1,047 posts)me any questions in any form.
Haggard Celine
(17,066 posts)I've never been pulled aside at work. That seems to be a quicker process. I've never asked people the people I knew who got pulled any details about how they did it. They usually picked the same people every time for a test. My bosses didn't want to get anyone fired. Occasionally someone would get caught, but they would claim to have a drug problem, so there was a process in which they would be absent from work for a few weeks while they went to an outpatient rehab. Then they would come back to work. We thought it was a big joke. But the ones among us who were the most notorious druggies never got pulled for a test. Some of them would have lit that test up like a Christmas tree!
Groundhawg
(1,047 posts)fescuerescue
(4,471 posts)But it's also flushes out of your system extremely fast compared to pot.
Lochloosa
(16,462 posts)fescuerescue
(4,471 posts)of companies that do business with the Federal government.
And most big companies either do business with the Federal, or dream of it.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,109 posts)Works every time.
Google urine luck quick fix.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)fescuerescue
(4,471 posts)I know of a guy that used it, when he got a job working a drug testing lab.
it really does work.
That is what my job will be too, lol. I think a bit ironic. Good to hear
Phoenix61
(17,753 posts)Might be worth the investment.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)On the wine now so do not want to pick one up but that will let me know if I need to stall or if I am good to go for end of week. Excellent. Thanks.
ShazamIam
(2,731 posts)Edit add: I don't know how accurate the tests are, I just noticed them when I was shopping. I thought it will be very helpful for people in your situation.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)Drinking wine and do not want to run out to Target or I would have done this weekend. I didn't know about them, but a good idea.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Its not positive just because thc shows up it has to be over a certain limit and if you havent smoked regularly chances are you will be under. I agree with the poster that said get the test at walmart before going in and check for yourself.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)from what I was reading. Thanks.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Then you can test yourself and breathe easier.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)Would rather have done this weekend before cutting ties with current job, but I ma pretty confident I will pass. So will pick it up tomorrow to make sure. They gave me leeway pushing start day further so if I need to, I can.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I was amazed at how many different test kits there were for different drugs.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)But its true never to give the morning pee lol.
Take a multivitamin, drink water so you pee a few times before the test.
Let us know!
JudyM
(29,537 posts)Folks there might have good input: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1279
Good luck, I hope you get the job, LizBeth!
(Lucky you, living in Eugene, BTW)
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)Thanks. Lot os info here. I really think I am good to go, just wanted some reassurance. Gonna buy a test tomorrow.
Twoflower
(1,027 posts)BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)Use pocket warmers to keep it warm.
fescuerescue
(4,471 posts)It works very well.
NightWatcher
(39,360 posts)Ms. Toad
(35,736 posts)Pot, including edibles, is still illegal everywhere under federal law. So it isn't "just as legal . . . as . . . a glass of wine."
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)Ms. Toad
(35,736 posts)that pot was as legal as wine. It's not - since there is no federal prohibition on the use of wine.
Mysterian
(5,225 posts)Maybe someone who has no physical activity at all will take longer to get clean.
Hotler
(12,454 posts)Usually 3-4 weeks to be safe. Good luck with the job.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Or, why smoke/consume if you know they're going to test?
Even if you pass the test, how frequently (and how randomly) will future tests be? If you continue to smoke/consume, aren't you putting your employment at risk?
Good luck!
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)a drug test until after application, interviews and hires are made. Wouldn't it be so much easier if we knew ahead of time saving everyone the time and money, with legal choice?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's certainly a pain, and expensive for employers too... but with a little footwork in advance I think you'll be less likely to be wasting your time and can plan ahead to avoid being rejected.
Good luck!
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)Zeitghost
(4,557 posts)Substitution, it easy and foolproof as long as you have a clean source.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)I do not have the confidence to pull it off.
ripcord
(5,553 posts)There are many types of jobs where testing makes sense. As a truck driver I was tested for years and had no problem with it, I also had no problem with the companies that banned drivers from alcohol when they were on the road, no one wants someone impaired behind the wheel of an 80,000 vehicle.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)getting on the road just as a driver will have a beer when done with shift but certainly would not do a couple shots before getting behind the wheel. Am I not RIGHT?
Ohio Joe
(21,894 posts)OK... So as mentioned earlier in the thread, the THC gets into fat cells and can stay there a few months. No worries. First, start doing some exercise now to get it to release. Drink lots of water every day to flush your system. Stop the exercise about four days before the test but continue with a lot of water. When filling the bottle, don't let either the start or the end of the stream go into the bottle, that is where what is being flushed is most likely to be in any quantity. The day before the test do a home test to see if you are clean. You should be but if you are not, call and see if you can move the test out a few days to a week and continue flushing... Maybe just tell them you are not feeling well... Car broke down... Something but really I think you will be fine.
Also, I recommend you keep your current job until you are for sure hired at the new one. You never know.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)exposed to covid. In my environment that gets an immediate stay. I like. Thank you
BannonsLiver
(18,338 posts)LizBeth
(10,935 posts)Daily? More than once a day? Or much less frequently cause I am really curious with this info.
BannonsLiver
(18,338 posts)And tracked it over that time. I tested myself a couple times a week. Heavy use and some extra pounds was the reason it took so long. Before I took the employment test I had myself tested at a lab to account for the possible inaccuracy of the home tests. I bet youll be clear sooner though. My intake was Bob Marley like at that time.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)thought to do. Good for you.
BannonsLiver
(18,338 posts)Hidden in a plastic travel sizes shampoo bottle. I dressed up in a suit and tie for the test and as my research indicated they were more likely to take me less seriously than someone who came in in Birkenstocks and a Phish t-shirt. Sure enough they let me in the bathroom by myself, and I switched it.
I should point out that none of these jobs were in any way dealing with the public or involved operating heavy machinery. It was an office job. And the testing was the kind of harassment testing employers get talked into by their liability insurance providers.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)have the confidence to pull something like that off. I would tend more towards, I use it here nad there, so what. Kinda of approach. Hire me or not. But I think I can pass and do not have to do either. I think I will just pick up a test at the store tomorrow. Was too lazy today. But gotta tell you, with being told I am not allowed pot, I am having a strong desire the last two days to have an edible, lol. I am kinda contrary, lol.
BannonsLiver
(18,338 posts)I was much younger than I am today. I think youll be fine on your own. Good luck.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Drug tests for employment are few and fare between here in CO unless it involves transportation or heavy machinery. There used to be things you could take to pee clean. I'm not sure what they are though.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)But the last couple years I have seen more and more companies say flat out not testing for pot. That is why I was a bit surprised these last two jobs testing. And then the first one I took I KNOW I failed and they hired anyways. So I do not know how serious this company is with it but I am driving their company vehicle and it is how they make their money as a diagnostic lab so they have a stake in this financially, which is not to my advantage for sure, lol
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)DenaliDemocrat
(1,559 posts)I would simply state that you used it. I would fire or not hire you for lying/deception. I would hire you fit being honest. You are proving you are dishonest and willing to cover up. As you noted, its as legal as wine.
MerryBlooms
(11,903 posts)Amounts. The OP has a good idea of both. I would be honest. Deception is never a good option. Businesses have heard every excuse under the sun and know a con job when they hear one, they will red flag your file. Same with the recommendations of drinking fluids to try to mask... Another deception that will be spotted immediately.
Just go with the truth.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)I did tell them in 6 decades first time I had to submit to a urine test, how offensive it was an dI know I failed, to answer a phone. I was not apologetic with occasions pot smoking for sure. A little pissed I had to do it.
RFCalifornia
(440 posts)Remember it's just a "sex toy"
Don't know why I posted it here
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LizBeth
(10,935 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Thanks for keeping us updated! Congratulations!
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)If they make Congress do it, then fine, I wont object. But they wont.
So glad Im retired.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)They almost have to have a threshold they can't just refuse you because trace amounts of THC showed up or anyone who attended a rock concert in the last month would be out for example. Very infrequent use several weeks ago should not trigger a positive result.
iemanja
(55,041 posts)You worked hard for that one.
LizBeth
(10,935 posts)clear or easy. Ty