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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:50 PM Nov 2021

Progressives declare victory in spending bill fight

Progressives are declaring victory ahead of a possible vote Thursday on President Biden’s social spending and climate package, while saying they shouldn’t be blamed for their party losing the governor’s race in Virginia. Liberals in the House for weeks have refused to allow a vote on a bipartisan infrastructure bill approved by the Senate without also getting one on the larger budget package. Now it appears the House is inching toward a vote on that legislation, with another on the infrastructure bill to follow on Friday.

After Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) signaled the possible vote, progressives inside and outside of Congress expressed their pleasure. “I have definitely been encouraged to see just over the last 24 hours that there does seem to be a continued sense of excitement or momentum for actually passing the full — or as close as possible — to the Build Back Better agenda,” said Lucy Solomon, national political director at Indivisible, a grassroots network.

A number of lawmakers in the House and Senate have blasted progressives for holding up the infrastructure bill, arguing it hurt Democrat Terry McAuliffe in Virginia. Democratic candidates throughout the state took a beating, and senior state lawmakers in New Jersey were also defeated in Tuesday’s off-year elections.

“Mark and I told the caucus that this would happen if we didn't act promptly, and it has in fact happened,” Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) told reporters this week, referencing Virginia Sen. Mark Warner (D), as reported by NPR. “I mean,
only in Washington could people think that it is a smart strategy to take a once-in-a-generation investment in infrastructure and prevent your president from signing that bill into law,” Warner said this week. Biden himself said this week the infrastructure bill should have been approved before Tuesday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/580116-progressives-declare-victory-in-spending-bill-fight

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Progressives declare victory in spending bill fight (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 OP
It won't pass Chille Nov 2021 #1
This 10000000000000000000000 times demtenjeep Nov 2021 #2
It's the same old song... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #3
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #5
+1 leftstreet Nov 2021 #8
The Senate passed the Infrastructure bill. Budi Nov 2021 #12
Yes the stunt press conference on Monday didn't matter at all Tribetime Nov 2021 #13
Exactly! bluewater Nov 2021 #15
So they held up the infrastructure bill for a month or two in order to madville Nov 2021 #4
Congress just needs to keep heads down, work on it and less TV talk until it gets past. FloridaBlues Nov 2021 #6
Exqctly they are just feeding the ammunition Historic NY Nov 2021 #11
What victory? WarGamer Nov 2021 #7
Who's "victory" is it again? What victory? Is it on Biden's desk yet? Budi Nov 2021 #9
Not "Victory" for the Sane Cha Nov 2021 #16
I may be the odd man out here, Groundhawg Nov 2021 #10
So Victory is stopping the momentum of Joe Biden's most progressive bill in decades? Budi Nov 2021 #14
Send in the Fighting clowns tirebiter Nov 2021 #17
 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
2. This 10000000000000000000000 times
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:55 PM
Nov 2021

“Mark and I told the caucus that this would happen if we didn't act promptly, and it has in fact happened,” Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) told reporters this week, referencing Virginia Sen. Mark Warner (D), as reported by NPR. “I mean,
only in Washington could people think that it is a smart strategy to take a once-in-a-generation investment in infrastructure and prevent your president from signing that bill into law,” Warner said this week. Biden himself said this week the infrastructure bill should have been approved before Tuesday.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
3. It's the same old song...
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:57 PM
Nov 2021

“Pay no attention to the Manchin and Sinema behind the curtain; everything is the progressives’ fault for not caving to them immediately!”

As usual.

Forever and ever, world without end, amen.

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
8. +1
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:05 PM
Nov 2021

Two moderate Senators blocked a moderate POTUS agenda, and then a moderate Guv candidate lost

tEh pROgGEssiVeS R kIlliNg uS 1111!!!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. The Senate passed the Infrastructure bill.
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:18 PM
Nov 2021

Instead of passing it in the House & to Biden's desk they held it up saying, " Nothing's better than something!"

We would have already been steps ahead on beginning the needed programs under that massive & generous infrastructure bill, & now on our way to getting the rest of BBB.

But nope. America will have to just wait.

There'll be no victory until we say so.

That's the problem referred to by a pissed off Mark Warner.

As well as half this country.
Appears that tanking Biden's sorely needed BBB, was not the victory they claim it was.

There is no victory to claim.

madville

(7,408 posts)
4. So they held up the infrastructure bill for a month or two in order to
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:01 PM
Nov 2021

Guarantee the larger BBB bill won’t get through the Senate? Strange idea of “victory”.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
9. Who's "victory" is it again? What victory? Is it on Biden's desk yet?
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:07 PM
Nov 2021
Mark and I told the caucus that this would happen if we didn't act promptly, and it has in fact happened,” Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) told reporters this week, referencing Virginia Sen. Mark Warner (D), as reported by NPR. “I mean,
only in Washington could people think that it is a smart strategy to take a once-in-a-generation investment in infrastructure and prevent your president from signing that bill into law,”
Warner said this week.
Biden himself said this week the infrastructure bill should have been approved before Tuesday.
******

YAA. We alone did it! Just Us. Only us.
VICTORY is ours. All ours. Did you see me on the TeeVee?

WHAT VICTORY? Is it signed by President Biden?

Them-VICTORY!
America-Nothing


Groundhawg

(545 posts)
10. I may be the odd man out here,
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:10 PM
Nov 2021

But how can we expect Mansion to vote for a large bill that hasn't been written yet? I trust our leaders to a degree, but how do they know it does what America needs?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
14. So Victory is stopping the momentum of Joe Biden's most progressive bill in decades?
Thu Nov 4, 2021, 09:36 PM
Nov 2021

Why would anyone call that a victory?
Unless it never really was about America........
"Nothing's better than something" !

VICTORY!!

Sen Warner is absolutely correct.

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