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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:35 PM

USAFRetired_Liberal (4,039 posts)

This is why Republicans are good at messaging

This isn’t a post peddling right wing talking points. It’s a post about how Democrats need to dumb down their message and stick to scripts like this. Republicans are good at saying simple bullshit like this and having all its members regurgitate it over and over and over wherever they go.
They have been doing the same crap for 40 years now and it works, while Democrats talk to professorial. I can watch a dozen news shows on Sunday and every single Republican will say the same exact thing, while Democrats go on shows and all are saying the same thing, but it sounds different because they aren’t regurgitating the same words.

We learned that parents should be empowered to make decisions about their children's education, not the federal government. We learned that Americans want more jobs, not more government welfare and reckless spending creating inflation. Americans want to fund their police departments, not defund them. Americans want freedom, not far-left socialism," House Republican Conference Chairwoman Elise Stefanik (N.Y.) told reporters.

"This is the message that united Americans across the country from New Jersey to New York to Virginia to Texas and united Americans behind Republicans last night. ... Republicans are the party of parents, of education, of small businesses, of freedom and family. Democrats are the party of big government socialism, creating crisis after crisis."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-leader-says-republicans-could-flip-60-seats-next-year/ar-AAQhOQt

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Reply This is why Republicans are good at messaging (Original post)
 USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2021 OP
LineReply So you post their entire message?
 Kingofalldems Nov 2021 #1
LineReply Message auto-removed
 Name removed Nov 2021 #2
LineLineReply It's another dog whistle, because we Libs are not supposed to know what it means...nt
 Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #4
LineReply And more tax cuts to the rich!
 Lovie777 Nov 2021 #3
LineReply Not dumb down, but listen, Linguistics wars.
 elleng Nov 2021 #5
LineLineReply Great links
 USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2021 #9
LineLineLineReply Thanks. I didn't take enough time to refine properly, but
 elleng Nov 2021 #10
LineLineReply It's sad that the second article is from 2003
 USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2021 #11
LineLineLineNew Reply Right.
 elleng Nov 2021 #15
LineLineNew Reply Excellent links. Worth their own thread for higher visibility. Thanks for posting.
 chia Nov 2021 #20
LineLineLineNew Reply Thanks, chia;
 elleng Nov 2021 #22
LineReply consdering in VA a dem told parents they had no importance in what is taught in schools.... nt
 msongs Nov 2021 #6
LineLineReply Message auto-removed
 Name removed Nov 2021 #7
LineReply fascist newspeak, two or three word slogans that target the bigots and their fears.
 Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #8
LineReply Well..they certainly played
 Deuxcents Nov 2021 #12
LineReply Republicans are shoving Critical White Religious Dominance Theory
 blm Nov 2021 #13
LineLineNew Reply What about the parents
 malletgirl02 Nov 2021 #14
LineNew Reply Bernie's "trust buster" message was resonating in the back hills
 ymetca Nov 2021 #16
LineNew Reply Well, they are messaging to ignorant rubes.
 Hoyt Nov 2021 #17
LineLineNew Reply True
 USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2021 #18
LineLineLineNew Reply Definitely, and true Independents.
 Hoyt Nov 2021 #19
LineNew Reply They think they are the party of ...
 Whiskeytide Nov 2021 #21
LineNew Reply They arent good at "messaging"
 MFM008 Nov 2021 #23

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:37 PM

Star Member Kingofalldems (35,450 posts)

1. So you post their entire message?

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:41 PM

Star Member Wounded Bear (50,378 posts)

4. It's another dog whistle, because we Libs are not supposed to know what it means...nt

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:39 PM

Lovie777 (4,022 posts)

3. And more tax cuts to the rich!

and working class Americans foot the bill!

Yay yay yay yay . ....

bullshit GQP.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:48 PM

USAFRetired_Liberal (4,039 posts)

9. Great links

Especially the guardian article…..this is what I was trying to say in my OP, but they explained it better

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:49 PM

Star Member elleng (115,592 posts)

10. Thanks. I didn't take enough time to refine properly, but

did find something.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:50 PM

USAFRetired_Liberal (4,039 posts)

11. It's sad that the second article is from 2003

And 18 years later Democrats still don’t understand messaging

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:53 PM

Star Member elleng (115,592 posts)

15. Right.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:28 PM

Star Member chia (1,917 posts)

20. Excellent links. Worth their own thread for higher visibility. Thanks for posting.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:31 PM

Star Member elleng (115,592 posts)

22. Thanks, chia;

Lakoff does it every time.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:43 PM

Star Member msongs (63,494 posts)

6. consdering in VA a dem told parents they had no importance in what is taught in schools.... nt

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:47 PM

Thomas Hurt (12,262 posts)

8. fascist newspeak, two or three word slogans that target the bigots and their fears.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:50 PM

Star Member Deuxcents (5,647 posts)

12. Well..they certainly played

The boogie man education card. Interviews showed voters did not know what they voted against didn’t exist. Misinformation n downright lies need nipped in the bud early as they become “truth” to people who won’t take the time to check out what they’re told on FB or other means. Gonna be tough to do but we gotta do it.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:51 PM

Star Member blm (108,941 posts)

13. Republicans are shoving Critical White Religious Dominance Theory

down our children’s throats.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/christian-town-ultra-conservative-church-090003851.html

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:53 PM

malletgirl02 (1,523 posts)

14. What about the parents

who don't want Critical Religious Dominance Theory? I guess some parents are more equal than others.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:01 PM

ymetca (1,028 posts)

16. Bernie's "trust buster" message was resonating in the back hills

and that terrified the status quo in both parties, now mostly wholly-owned subsidiaries of Wall Street, thanks to Citizens United.

Democrats need to define The Enemy and that enemy is "The Big Money Boys Downtown." That message sells.

Ya gotta gin up a bigger mob to win these days. And for that you need a Public Enemy #1. And that Enemy is, and always has been, the fucking money lenders in our temple.

Not that hard, really. Of course, ya gotta have really good security to keep you safe from the Oswalds of this world, but that's the price.

"And Bobby went after the mob..."

Sometimes it takes martyrs, sadly, for actual change to happen.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:08 PM

Star Member Hoyt (54,770 posts)

17. Well, they are messaging to ignorant rubes.

 

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:21 PM

USAFRetired_Liberal (4,039 posts)

18. True

And I don’t think Democrats can ever reach them through effective messaging, but we need to frame our messaging to persuade Democratic voters who aren’t consistently voting to actually get out to vote

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:24 PM

Star Member Hoyt (54,770 posts)

19. Definitely, and true Independents.

 

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 10:28 PM

Whiskeytide (3,794 posts)

21. They think they are the party of ...

… “parents, of education, of small businesses, of freedom and family”. And perhaps more importantly, the right leaning independents believe that as well. And to be honest, many of these people are hard working Americans who love their families and want what’s best for them.

Their leaders, on the other hand, are genuine shitbags for the most part. I think too often we forget to make that distinction. Here at DU, most of us despise Republican politicians. I know I do. But I don’t despise my neighbor or co-worker who votes Republican. I don’t get it most of the time, but I don’t hate them.

There IS a segment of their base that is pure crap - racist, mean spirited, indecent assholes who are worthy of contempt. And there are more of them since Тяцмp and some others came on the scene. More than I had expected. But I still believe they are a much smaller but increasingly vocal minority than we perceive them to be.

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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 11:50 PM

Star Member MFM008 (19,637 posts)

23. They arent good at "messaging"

they are good at lying, inciting hate and being treasonous hypocrites, there is no
republican party.

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