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Quoting Clair McCaskill: 'It's time for Dems to pivot and punch.' (Original Post) elleng Nov 2021 OP
Yup. grumpyduck Nov 2021 #1
Messaging is the key. sarcasmo Nov 2021 #2
Messaging is important. hamsterjill Nov 2021 #3
McCaskill is the last person I'd look to for election advice. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #4
she's partially right qazplm135 Nov 2021 #5
She ran one good campaign, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #7
She won election in 2006 and 2012. BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #8
Even then, she was in a dog fight, even trailed in some polls, until Aiken's rape comment. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #14
care to elaborate? nt Grasswire2 Nov 2021 #10
Why do you think she's on MSNBC? Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #12
I thought it was because she needed a job FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #16
I mean, there's a reason she needed a job. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #17
I'm not real big on conspiracy theories. Grasswire2 Nov 2021 #18
Lol it's not a conspiracy. She's on MSNBC because she was unemployed. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #20
We'll first need to debate for months, maybe longer BannonsLiver Nov 2021 #6
+1 dalton99a Nov 2021 #11
I bet she'd be ok with blaming if it were the progressives FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #9
I agree crimycarny Nov 2021 #13
Thanks. elleng Nov 2021 #15
**** nt Grasswire2 Nov 2021 #19

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
5. she's partially right
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:48 PM
Nov 2021

She's in the Manchin mode (although more a team player than Manchin by far) so much of her political advice is biased towards centrism.

But she's right that blame is a waste of time. It's time to get to work, pass some bills, and start to figure out how to turnout our base without Trump on the ballot.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
7. She ran one good campaign,
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:49 PM
Nov 2021

good mainly because she manipulated the republicon primary to get a truly shitty "man" for an opponent.

Then, she showed herself as as a right-leaner or fell for that "must be republicon-lite to appeal to people here" crap, and she went downhill from there.

If she'd toured the rural parts of the state running on things Dems and Obama accomplished that all those people benefitted from, she'd still be in the senate. But she ran away from that and now we have that stinking prick Josh Hawley.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
14. Even then, she was in a dog fight, even trailed in some polls, until Aiken's rape comment.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:02 PM
Nov 2021

If that doesn't happen, maybe she wins but it's far less a sure thing than it turned out to be.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
18. I'm not real big on conspiracy theories.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:14 PM
Nov 2021

I have no idea why anyone here on DU likes or doesn't like Claire. Not my fave, but that's because of the constant "insider" info they keep prompting from her.

There are a number of people who come as guests to MSNBC that I don't care much for. Different strokes for different folks.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
20. Lol it's not a conspiracy. She's on MSNBC because she was unemployed.
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:19 PM
Nov 2021

She was unemployed because she lost her reelection in 2018 to a right-wing nut job. Again, she's not the best person I look to for election advice.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
6. We'll first need to debate for months, maybe longer
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:49 PM
Nov 2021

If the punch is inclusive, sensitive and appropriate so it doesn’t offend anyone.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
9. I bet she'd be ok with blaming if it were the progressives
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:52 PM
Nov 2021

who were at fault.

But it is time, past time, to punch. Along with several followup punches, kicks, knees to groins, and elbows to heads.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
13. I agree
Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:01 PM
Nov 2021

People are b*tching that McCaskill was a DINO, but that doesn't mean her strategy isn't spot on.

What happened 2 weeks before these critical elections? Dems b*tching on twitter about BBB not being perfect, AOC calling out Jay Jacobs for a statement he made and then other Dems jumping on the bandwagon asking for his resignation. Despite the fact that Jay Jacobs is THE most successful NY Dem Chair on getting women and POC elected, fundraising, and turning a 100-year red area blue. No! who cares! Outrage is more fun! We're the good guys! We're the good guys! See how we fight against alleged misogyny!! See how we fight against alleged sexual abuse (Al Franken). Yeah, yeah, we know we did all that without getting the other side but who cares, we're the good guys!! We're the good guys!! Why aren't you voting for us?

Can we at least save our in-fighting and b*tching until after critical elections? Would YOU want to vote for a party that is constantly bickering amongst itself? H*ll, I've voted Dem all my life and even I get sick and tired of the purity tests.

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