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Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:08 AM

I have only one thing to say about what has happened in Minnesota and Virginia

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Reply I have only one thing to say about what has happened in Minnesota and Virginia (Original post)
OldBaldy1701E Nov 2021 OP
Ocelot II Nov 2021 #1
Amishman Nov 2021 #2
Ocelot II Nov 2021 #4
OldBaldy1701E Nov 2021 #6
sarisataka Nov 2021 #3
WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #5
Polybius Nov 2021 #7

Response to OldBaldy1701E (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:26 AM

1. What happened in Minneapolis is nothing like what happened in Virginia.

A lot of Black residents opposed the police reorganization measure and actively campaigned against it.

Arradondo, the city’s first Black chief, recently urged voters to reject the proposal after previously saying that an element that would give City Council members more oversight of policing would be “wholly unbearable.” He has sidestepped questions about whether he would remain if it passes.

Raeisha Williams, an activist with Guns Down Love Up, said she believes the plan’s supporters are mainly white residents who haven’t experienced police misconduct or the violence that Black residents are seeing on the north side. Her brother, Tyrone, died in a shooting there in 2018.

“It’s like our voices are not heard — they are hijacking a movement yet again and making it their own,” said Williams, who is Black.
https://apnews.com/article/death-of-george-floyd-police-minneapolis-race-and-ethnicity-904ab1f67d3c788103a3b11dfeded76b

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:32 AM

2. facepalm

and this response is why this keeps happening

everybody put your broad brushes away, painting entire demographic groups one way is never productive

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Response to Amishman (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:51 AM

4. And all politics really is local.

The reason the police reorg ballot measure failed in Minneapolis, a reliably liberal city (Ilhan Omar's district) was not in any respect because of white people. It was because it was a poorly-drafted thing that was nothing more than a vaporous expression of a desire to make a plan someday, to be managed by the dysfunctional and confused city council. Many Black people on the north side of the city, where crime has increased considerably lately, thought it was a bad idea because what they want is assurances that there will be reliable police protection - good cops, and more of them. White residents from the more affluent neighborhoods tended to support the measure. That controversy absolutely did not break along racial lines.

Virginia, a whole 'nother and completely different can of worms, evidently did have significant racial aspects, since critical race theory was waved about like a bloody shirt. But all local elections are decided by local people based on local concerns, even bullshit ones like CRT.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:48 PM

6. You mean the brushes that we use to say ALL republicans are bad?

The ones we use to paint all of the rich as evil bastards? (Okay, that one is not a good example.) You mean those brushes?

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:49 AM

3. Hmm...

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 09:53 AM

5. Yep.

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 01:57 PM

7. BS!

I'm blacker than you can imagine and I'd have voted to keep the police if I lived in Minnesota.

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