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Shortages and supply chain issues have nothing to do with the Federal government or state governments. Those are private sector matters brought about by the pandemic.
bullwinkle428
(20,639 posts)we have 74 million people that voted for the Grand Venereal Wizard.
malaise
(276,032 posts)Grand Venereal Wizard
bullwinkle428
(20,639 posts)joke theft!
malaise
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MontanaMama
(23,895 posts)right here
Grand Venereal Wizard.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)...but the general public does not, and there's probably not much we can do at this point to educate them or assuage their concerns. It might not be fair, but like it or not the impetus is now on the government to do something to address the problem.
Thanks Malaise. Now you've made me get up and find my dictionary to look up "pecllucily". I need to be talked to like I'm three. Lol
Ka-Dinh Oy
(11,686 posts)However, I am to lazy to get up at this moment.
plimsoll
(1,690 posts)Who knew?
Let's see. Texas power grid. Supply chain. The list goes on and on with less publicly humiliating failures.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)malaise
(276,032 posts)did that while you were posting
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)malaise
(276,032 posts)did that while you were posting
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)Good you spread the message. fox-propaganda will continue to pin everything wrong on Biden and this administration.
Keep posting and spead the word like a mantra.
Johnny2X2X
(21,247 posts)People have been sitting at home because of the pandemic, they've not spent money on travel. So with the extra money, they bought stuff online at higher rates. That depleted the supply chain. Coupled with some Covid based factory pauses and shutdowns, you have what we have. And it's far from a crisis, it's merely some inconvenience.
Farmer-Rick
(11,009 posts)I've heard this before, especially from the GOP types around here in the South.
Everyone is staying home and so have extra money. We never traveled before the pandemic. Travel was a special treat we reserved for holidays or anniversaries. Maybe we traveled once every 5 years. Yeah, we spent money on gas, but since we were farmers, I still bought gas for our tractors and farm equipment during the pandemic. Were normal people traveling alot outside of work? This sounds like what a rich person thinks inside their bubble. Losing a job cost a lot more than paying for gas to get there. It did not equal out for many workers.
I got no extra money, aside from the meager lump sum payments the government daned to handout after giving billions to billionaires. But that little bit is long, long gone. I'm certainly not using it now to buy luxuries.
So, where is all this extra money people say we all have? I've been hearing about it. But why didn't I get any of it?
malaise
(276,032 posts)Farmer-Rick
(11,009 posts)I see said this blind man.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Getting smarter every day..😈
malaise
(276,032 posts)He could not resist being repetitive, but there's a great read on its use at the US Supreme Court
http://www.newyorkcourtwatcher.com/2009/12/pellucidly-clear-at-supreme-court-ny.html
multigraincracker
(33,672 posts)think the market can solve everything. They should use the country with the least government interference. Somalia, the Libertarian Dream, low taxes and little government interference.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)And when it impacts the economy, it becomes Bidens problem. And Public Health is under the realm of the government. So managing the pandemic is Bidens concern.
You cant just pull these issues apart. They are all interconnected.
malaise
(276,032 posts)and Biden has done and is doing a great job
NHvet
(250 posts)After years and years of the businesses moving offshore in search of lower costs, less regulations and little or no government oversight (no unions, no child labor laws, no EPA, no OSHA, and best off virtually no taxes) has brought all this on. In large part to the lobbying of the Chamber of Commerce of the republican party to have laws written by them to reward such moves. Throw in a pandemic, shut down large patches of the worlds economies and this is what happens. Going global has its drawbacks... who knew?
malaise
(276,032 posts)and then blame the government for their fuck ups.
Farmer-Rick
(11,009 posts)Deregulation wasn't just a stupid idea. It was actually implimented throughout the US. Mergers, acquisitions, consolidation and removal of excess capacity of our distribution and supply system was completed.
And that's why you got a bunch of billionaires making tons of excess wealth off of the broken rubber band of the American market place.
malaise
(276,032 posts)NHvet
(250 posts)and why the middle class is disappering in the US
Martin Eden
(13,265 posts)If not for the a$$holes trying to blame supply chain issues on Biden.
malaise
(276,032 posts)geardaddy
(25,290 posts)Where are the idiots who say, "We should run government like we business."?
IggleDuer
(972 posts)own a large shipping company from Asia?
FakeNoose
(35,019 posts)... or wherever they came from.
There's such a clutter of empty containers on the docks (West Coast) that they can't unload the newest shipments until they make some room. I believe the (federal or state) government will have to step in and start ordering them to do this, because nobody is showing any leadership at the docks.
In addition there are serious manpower shortages among the dockworkers, and that's mainly due to Covid. (That's my guess anyway.)
Perhaps the U.S. Coast Guard can step in a provide manpower, and the U.S. Navy can provide ships to carry empty containers back to China? Just to get them out of the way....
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)paulkienitz
(1,307 posts)Moebym
(989 posts)The average person will go no further than blaming the president currently in charge and whichever party they are disinclined to support.
Shermann
(8,367 posts)llmart
(16,200 posts)I retired a year before the pandemic hit. I live in a neighborhood that's mostly people 60+. My family and friends are mostly 60+. I can't begin to tell you how many people I know who decided to retire when the country went into lockdown. Some of them had planned on working until they were 70 but decided not to. Boomers are a huge population and we should have seen this coming pandemic or not. Our country and populace has never been good at thinking far enough down the road before the problems arise.
Shermann
(8,367 posts)I think the pandemic definitely sped things up. Boomers, being older, generally had higher paying jobs. Those vacancies are being filled by younger people leaving crappier, lower paying jobs.
EarnestPutz
(2,516 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,586 posts)That is, ROADS. The U.S. Postal Service is important too.
However, if Libertarian Rethugs get their way, infrastructure will continue to decline by lack of funding so they can claim it needs to be privatized. Gotta have profit from everything in their way of thinking.
The private sector's huge elephant in the room is that it has no morals. Therefore, no obligation to human rights or community.
KY
malaise
(276,032 posts)regulations. They have decimated regulations and lots of work is needed re infrastructure but the road network is pretty good. The private sector hasn't done enough damage to the social good yet - now their aim is to destroy public education. Go figure
jaxexpat
(7,511 posts)I watched from the seawall in Galveston as the worlds super-tanker fleet rode at anchor en masse in the parking reserve area just off the Bolivar Straight, waiting while the gas lines of 1979 grew into a national panic. When the public finally associated blame for the (totally manufactured) "gas shortage" with the fact of a Democrat in the Whitehouse and an irreversible rise in pump prices, the ships lifted anchor and filled the refineries of Texas city, Houston and Bayport with crude oil. Like Magic, the gas lines disappeared everywhere except in the collective memory of Reagan voters.
I presume the same technique was applied in other US ports which had large refining components but have no personal experience as evidence like I do for the Galveston Bay area.
They can, will, and probably ARE doing the same song and dance today with imported goods' price rises. Rarely performing such highly publicized operations without multiple win-wins built into the scheme, this time around the PTB are force feeding the idea that our dependence on Chinese manufacturing is causing the US and thus the average citizen damage as some sort of plot by the Chinese government, unwittingly (or intentionally) aided by the "Democrat" executive. This time they even have the gall to float the idea that the Federal government needs to fund "necessary" port improvements to alleviate this manufactured problem.
The "Powers That Be" have occasional moments of actually participating in the maintenance of their supremacy and, like the seasons, they are predictable. At one time it was coupled with the odd term, "business cycle". They are now into their "grift the pandemic panic" phase which followed on the heels of the "we're all in this together, trusting each other" phase.