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brooklynite

(94,453 posts)
Sat Oct 23, 2021, 11:35 PM Oct 2021

Democrats' problem is not focusing on issues most vital to independents, 2 prominent pollsters say

Washington Post

Joel Benenson has a feeling of deja vu watching President Biden’s agenda grind into a long, drawn-out negotiation as middle-of-the-road voters recoil at the process taking place in Congress.

“History doesn’t really often repeat itself, but it often rhymes,” said Benenson, who served as Barack Obama’s pollster in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections.

Benenson has teamed up with Neil Newhouse, a co-founder of Public Opinion Strategies, a GOP polling firm, on a research project warning that Democrats are heading into next year’s midterm elections amid echoes of Obama’s first two years in office that resulted in a resounding defeat in the 2010 midterms that cost the party its House majority.

So much political capital was spent on a nearly year-long effort to pass the Affordable Care Act that few voters rewarded Democrats when it finally became law in the spring of 2010, and, 12 years later, Biden’s “Build Back Better” agenda has turned into another messy process fight.

At the heart of the Benenson-Newhouse research is something Democrats worried about a dozen years ago, when those messy negotiations took up so much bandwidth yet were also out of sync with what many swing voters prioritized. In late 2009 and early 2010, with unemployment hovering around 10 percent, key swing voters cared most about jobs and not expanding access to health insurance. Today’s voters appear to be most concerned about the ongoing global pandemic and are not deeply invested in the haggling over proposals such as expanding Medicare coverage to include dental, hearing and vision benefits.
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Democrats' problem is not focusing on issues most vital to independents, 2 prominent pollsters say (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2021 OP
JFC 🙄 Budi Oct 2021 #1
But we know this. We have known it for a generation. And it's way past time we dealt with it. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #2
THIS malaise Oct 2021 #9
The economy, primarily inflation on everyday goods and services, will be the #1 issue madville Oct 2021 #3
None of the actual infrastructure will be built by Election Day 2022 Klaralven Oct 2021 #4
True, it will mostly be a wash madville Oct 2021 #5
Talk about jobs being created for projects in the works is likely Hortensis Oct 2021 #6
Exactly drexelkathy Oct 2021 #8
I am almost 92 and I can not remember a day when a Republican made my life better. katmondoo Oct 2021 #10
It won't matter drexelkathy Oct 2021 #11
Yep, Independent voters control the majorities in Congress madville Oct 2021 #12
Was this research was conducted specifically on indies who MIGHT vote Democratic, Hortensis Oct 2021 #7
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
1. JFC 🙄
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 12:23 AM
Oct 2021

Democrats real problem is all the media heads from armchair to big media personalities making a living off of telling Democrats what their "doom-of-the-day" problem is.

Democrat's problem is Media profiting from their normalizing of fascism.





Scrivener7

(50,934 posts)
2. But we know this. We have known it for a generation. And it's way past time we dealt with it.
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 06:44 AM
Oct 2021

Yes, there are many news organizations that are just conservative and will never report to the Democrat's advantage.

But there are more news organizations that are just lazy and will report whatever is the loudest and squeakiest thing in the zeitgeist.

That is how TFG got all his press. He was the loudest, he was the weirdest, he was the one who made us most incredulous and made the media world blow up.

I am not saying we should be anything like him, but the Democrat's real problem is that they are always trailing the news cycle, always reacting, never getting out in front of it.

I don't know how to do that, but there are people out there who do. There are companies that do that. There are PR firms who have revolutionized the way we think by getting out in front of issues, and then by seeding social media so the active message gets into our cultural DNA.

It is way past time we did this. The need for it isn't complicated. I am sure the execution of it takes a lot of work and know how, but those people are out there. They can be hired.

Let's wag some dog, for God's sake.

madville

(7,408 posts)
3. The economy, primarily inflation on everyday goods and services, will be the #1 issue
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:12 AM
Oct 2021

Among independents next year when the midterms happen. There’s no way around it, if the prices of groceries, utilities and gas continue to climb we’re gonna be in a tough spot and nothing else will really matter come next November.

Even if they pass some smaller version of BBB and the infrastructure bill by the end of this year, it will be old news a year from now.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
4. None of the actual infrastructure will be built by Election Day 2022
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:22 AM
Oct 2021

The few parts of BBB that can be implemented quickly will be characterized by the Republicans as a giveaway.

madville

(7,408 posts)
5. True, it will mostly be a wash
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:37 AM
Oct 2021

The infrastructure bill is touted as bipartisan so there’s no political gain either way tied to it regardless of how or when it passes.

Last poll I saw showed less than 20% even knew any specifics about what is proposed in the BBB bill, if independent voters can’t tie a specific improvement in their quality of life to it then that’s not gonna be much of a boost either.

What I can see happening with the media we have in this country is them blaming continued high inflation on the passing of these bills, whether it’s deemed temporary or permanent. People do tie that together and seek someone to blame when they are spending more money and getting less in return.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Talk about jobs being created for projects in the works is likely
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:00 AM
Oct 2021

to be exciting than seeing ground bulldozed for a new bridge. People right now need hope a lot more than bridges, and that can come long before completion.

drexelkathy

(118 posts)
8. Exactly
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:13 AM
Oct 2021

People aren’t even shy about this.

Inflation will be a huge talking point by midterms. Cost of everything is up.

katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
10. I am almost 92 and I can not remember a day when a Republican made my life better.
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:22 AM
Oct 2021

Their legistration was always to make life miserable.

drexelkathy

(118 posts)
11. It won't matter
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:25 AM
Oct 2021

If prices continue to climb for everything from a gallon of milk to ground beef and at the pump/what it costs to heat or cool a home…

It won’t matter.

madville

(7,408 posts)
12. Yep, Independent voters control the majorities in Congress
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 11:37 AM
Oct 2021

And their top two issues in polling are the economy and COVID right now. As a voting bloc they will place the blame for anything perceived as negative on the majority party in charge and vote against them, regardless of which party it is.

They aren’t ever really happy either, that’s the main reason Presidents have lost Congress in the midterms for the last 30 years (Clinton, Bush, Obama, and the rump).

It’s like usual, it’s not IF republicans get back in power it’s just a matter of when.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Was this research was conducted specifically on indies who MIGHT vote Democratic,
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:12 AM
Oct 2021

as well as those who will? Probably almost half of so-called independents wouldn't vote Democratic if Jesus appeared and told them to. They know Republican Jesus would never do that.

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