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Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:40 AM

Shatner going into space is everything that is right AND wrong with the Universe

On one hand, it is a heartwarming story for a cultural icon to bring his illustrious career full circle at the delight of his fans.

On the other hand, it is a grotesque waste of resources. Or at best, a publicity stunt attempting to hide the insidious nature of a bunch of billionaires wanting to leave the planet that they have helped screw up.

I know..."lighten up Francis",

I can't help when my cynical side takes over.

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Reply Shatner going into space is everything that is right AND wrong with the Universe (Original post)
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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:52 AM

1. In Capitalism, anything that makes money is not a "waste of resources"...

Space tourism is becoming a growth industry for the 1 and 0.1%-ers.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:57 AM

2. I would have been much, much happier..

if Leonard Nimoy had lived long enough to do it.

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Response to luvs2sing (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:58 AM

3. Yes. That's what I've been thinking. Nimoy is sadly missed.

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Response to luvs2sing (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:27 AM

18. Didn't he?

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:36 AM

22. Ok..you win the internet today.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:59 AM

4. Im Just calling it

squid games for Billionaires. They will kill people, sooner or later.

We need nations to grab this back.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:02 AM

5. Right, billionaires building their escape pods for when they have trashed this planet.

But it is fun to see Capt Kirk blast off into space.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:04 AM

6. I understand....

Iím of two minds here but Iíll tell you what REALLY gets on my nerves: the canned remarks from Mission Control during the flight are so puerile and vais that I canít listen. Otherwise, remarkable technology.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:05 AM

8. CNN

just said, Welcome Back astronauts.

Lord, no. Iím sorry real astronauts.

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Response to Corgigal (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:39 AM

23. Did you hear the interview with Mark Kelly?

It was essentially agreed upon because John Glen was also along for the ride he said so since they crossed the barrier into space they qualified. Now I do not know how much that cost him personally to say that but it certainly was the reason that they started calling them astronauts. There was another astronaut there and I cannot remember his name for the life of me who also mentioned a bunch of times the hours and years of training it takes to pilot something into and in space. The press now has their "gotcha" to use for every single rich asshole to gain the title that has always been revered for so much more. I did not remember that much use of the word before that interview. I do remember a few "space tourists" used but was not listening much long before so maybe they were all already doing that. "Crew" really blew my mind. Only crew ever whose job it was to sit back, try not to shit yourself or fling yourself at the windows pre launch then fly around a bit and crawl out of the capsule.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:05 AM

7. I'm utterly delighted. Think about who might be watching.

All morning Iíve listened to people who couldnít go into space (ish) themselves but were inspired by watching both real launches and sci-fi. A whole lot has been accomplished as an outgrowth of these programs that will help us imagine, and create, great things. We need delight right now. We need to remember there are things to reach for.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:07 AM

9. It's so utterly bizarre

Imagine going back in time and telling people that someday Captain Kirk would be the oldest person launched into space.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:08 AM

10. Look at it this way...

We're running out of chimps.

Plenty of billionaires and aging celebrities, though.

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Response to Hugin (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:41 AM

24. OMG

too funny and too true.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:15 AM

11. and please DO NOT CALL THEM ASTRONAUTS.......🤬 🤬 🤬

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:17 AM

12. Jeff Bezos girlfriend trying to steal Shatner's limelight.

Squealing and running around trying to be in every camera shot. No thanks.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:17 AM

13. Getting a little emotional listening to Shatner go on

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Response to Zorro (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:20 AM

15. Oh he and I are both in tears. I hope he goes on talking

particularly about that feeling of how fragile we are. How fine the blue and how we have to care for it.

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Response to Zorro (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:23 AM

17. that was profound as hell.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:19 AM

14. Idiocracy Lives!

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:23 AM

16. Personally I have no problem with this,

yes, it's publicity for Bezos, Branson, et al who are doing this.

No, these people should not be called astronauts in any way shape or form.

But, look at the advancements in technology for the space programs that these endeavors have produced. The biggest ones in my mind is seeing the technology that produced re-useable launce rockets that have the ability to land on their own. The computer technology that literally allows the rocket to land where they want it to.

I don't see the issue on having private groups doing that that will advance our knowledge of space travel.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:30 AM

19. I love Shatner and had to watch this

but unless someone else goes up that I see more than just money and ego involved I will not watch another.

The only good thing I can hope comes from this is an interest in science like the big science boom the first shots into space inspired. Hopefully we can do more with this with the increased interest without the competition of having to "beat" another country.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:34 AM

20. I'm glad he's doing it

The more mainstream this gets, the better it will be for the future generations to go into space. Airlines were prohibited when they first started for a long time in fact. Now look you can go across country for a couple hundred bucks. Progress is hard but a must.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:36 AM

21. It advances the technology of spaceflight.

Mankind has the urge to explore and so this is a good thing.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:57 AM

25. I remember ignoring "Star Trak" tv nights in the college dorm common room

Back then, in the mid to later 1960's, it seemed so many possibilities for a glorious future were suggested and reflected by fact, fiction, feeling and folk all around.

Sub-orbital and orbital flight had been achieved; we were shooting for the moon.
Science and society with the feminist, anti-warrior, anti-racist, alternate American history, justice -for-all, pro-all-lives-matter movements, seemed to be pointed to a fine future.

True we had Nixon and his republicans, but this was all before the oil-crisis, the worst of Vietnam, Reagan and all the republicanism now poisoning USa.

It feels as though all the 2nd-half 20th century optimism and gains are reversed; previously fought for rights are under attack and being denied.

We are celebrating spending money to repeat 1962. We need to spend money to repair everything ignored since the 1980's and "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous".

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:59 AM

26. They're not breaking the law so lighten up.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:04 PM

27. Anyone who drives a car has no moral standing to talk about wasted resources.

Participating in automobile culture is one of the most environmentally destructive things anyone can do.

I'm guilty of that. I own a car.

Space exploration is a positive thing. So are improvements in rocket technology.

But I don't think humans will ever have a significant presence in space beyond Low Earth Orbit.

If we manage to survive as a world civilization then this Solar System will belong to our intellectual children, engineered beings who can walk around on the surface of places like Mars naked.

I also think Faster-Than-Light space craft are purely a fantasy. This universe doesn't work like that so alas there's no Star Trek in our future.
Eventually we humans will go extinct or build our own universe that's more accommodating of our dreams. That's my answer to the Fermi Paradox.

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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:48 PM

28. Limerick for today...

Jeff Bezosís rocket flew far;
Inside it was Shatner, a star
Beloved for his work
As the Trek captain Kirk,
Which was useful to Jeff as PR.


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Response to genxlib (Original post)

Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:08 PM

29. The search for goods & profits & trade routes (capitalism, so to speak) has been the driving force...

Ö for exploration for millennia. Military motives as well.

I am not disturbed by the Billionaire Boysí Club Race to the Stars. Up to this point space travel has been funded by and controlled by the federal government & its military arm, & those chosen as crew have had to be in the absolute peak of health and condition.

When civilians finally got involved, it took moneyó piles and piles of moneyó which meant a self-selected group of billionaires.

But something else happened. When they started choosing passengers, they chose people who could pay, not young military jet pilots in the peak of condition. They chose, ultimately, an overweight 90 year old man.

Boldly going where no nonagenarian has gone before, William Shatner just proved that anybody can go to outer space now. Frankly, I am stoked. Talk about a great leap for humankind.





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