Wed Oct 13, 2021, 09:56 AM
marble falls (45,680 posts)
Yet once more, Jeff Tiedrich for the win ...
Jeff Tiedrich
@itsJeffTiedrich · 18h holy fucking shit, vaccine mandates are causing teachers who don't believe in science to quit, nurses who don't believe in medicine to quit, and cops who don't believe in public safety to quit. I'm failing to see the downside to this Link to tweet
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marble falls | Oct 2021 | OP |
multigraincracker | Oct 2021 | #1 | |
marble falls | Oct 2021 | #2 | |
mucifer | Oct 2021 | #3 | |
marble falls | Oct 2021 | #4 | |
mucifer | Oct 2021 | #5 | |
marble falls | Oct 2021 | #7 | |
Evolve Dammit | Oct 2021 | #14 | |
MyMission | Oct 2021 | #18 | |
Evolve Dammit | Oct 2021 | #20 | |
Moostache | Oct 2021 | #10 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Oct 2021 | #12 | |
MiHale | Oct 2021 | #15 | |
KS Toronado | Oct 2021 | #6 | |
mucifer | Oct 2021 | #8 | |
StClone | Oct 2021 | #11 | |
calimary | Oct 2021 | #17 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Oct 2021 | #13 | |
Moostache | Oct 2021 | #9 | |
live love laugh | Oct 2021 | #16 | |
Paladin | Oct 2021 | #19 | |
dalton99a | Oct 2021 | #21 |
Response to marble falls (Original post)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:01 AM
multigraincracker (27,567 posts)
1. and MAGAs are dropping dead
in numbers never seen before. Win, win.
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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:04 AM
marble falls (45,680 posts)
2. I admit, it's hard not to feel a little bit of glee. Very hard.
Response to marble falls (Original post)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:12 AM
mucifer (21,304 posts)
3. The cops issue is pretty bad in Chicago. So many are quitting or retiring early
There is a lot of violence here and a lot of crooked and anti vax cops. It's a big mess. I'm not sure less cops will bring down the violence. I don't know what the answer is. I just know things are bad here.
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Response to mucifer (Reply #3)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:19 AM
marble falls (45,680 posts)
4. But losing bad apple Qops has be a good thing. These are "interesting" times.
Response to marble falls (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:26 AM
mucifer (21,304 posts)
5. only if they are replaced with good apples.
Response to mucifer (Reply #5)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:29 AM
marble falls (45,680 posts)
7. Maybe if they'd been doing this all along. Guns seem to be the big problem in Chicago that ...
... all those bad cops never seemed to get a handle on.
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Response to marble falls (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:47 PM
Evolve Dammit (10,362 posts)
14. they're going to go somewhere though; or be called to arms by the MAGA terrorists
Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #14)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 07:48 AM
MyMission (1,177 posts)
18. Or both
There are too many states that don't have a vaccine or mask mandate. Lots of places for them to flee to. My southern town hired a new police chief earlier this year. The 2 finalists were both on administrative leave from their positions, and weren't allowed to discuss why. We hired one.
We know too many "problem" Leo's find work in neighboring counties. And "problem" nurses often switch jobs when disciplinary action is looming. I'm still looking for a local dentist who requires their staff be vaccinated. Cancelled my August cleaning because neither hygienist was vaccinated. |
Response to MyMission (Reply #18)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 10:32 AM
Evolve Dammit (10,362 posts)
20. I never thought of it that way. Sounds totally realistic. Which means we will have pockets of
outbreaks for the forseeable future.
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Response to mucifer (Reply #3)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:01 PM
Moostache (9,537 posts)
10. I have never bought the analogy that guns and crime are symbiotic.
Nor do I adhere to the theory that African-Americans are inherently violent or more so than Caucasians or any other arbitrary designation.
More cops also does NOTHING to improve safety - think about it. When do people generally call the police? AFTER a crime or at best during one...maybe 10-25% of crimes happen in the presence of an officer. The shoot outs and gun battles and pursuits all happen AFTER the initial crime far more often than not. Police clean up crimes, they rarely prevent them. So what DOES cause crime, especially violent crime? Two things are at or near the top of the list - 1) poverty and 2) lack of opportunity. GOP fools love to then flip this on its head and start babbling on about "equality of outcomes" and "socialism" and "communism" and "fascism" (forgive them, they were mostly dropped on their heads as infants and not shown much human contact as children) - but that is wrong and mainly a deflection to prevent the real issue from being discussed or debated in rational ways. Poverty - and the root cause of it, the aforementioned lack of Opportunity - are THE driving forces in promoting crime and violence. Much of the gun violence in Chicago and other urban centers is based on gang activity and territorial disputes or vengeance killings. That is no different than the way rich white people use the USA military to enforce policies in Central and South America that dictate control for multinational (read: white American owned) corporations like Dole or Goodyear. To pretend otherwise is simply disingenuous. Anyone who honestly believes a kid at Martin Luther King High School is getting the same opportunity in life as someone at New Trier or Homewood-Flossmoor or private schools is delusional and it does not stop at High School either. There's only one phrase uttered by Donald Trump that is remotely true, and it is this "It's a rigged system folks". It is indeed and no one in power has the desire or the allies to drag it fully into the open and debate the best ways to actually deal with the problems...so instead we get slogans like "MAGA" and we are pushed into competing tribes for the amusement of the owners. The top 0.01% who are nothing more than the reincarnation of the very monarchy that the American Revolution fought against. We're heading back to the "divine rights of kings" and the saddest thing is many of the people who will be forced into serfdom are cheerleading the efforts. It is accelerating now and building momentum that will become impossible to stop. Once terminal velocity is reached, there will be a crash. The only questions are when and how bad it will be? In the meantime, the false narratives and racially motivated BS is shoveled in our faces daily and the victims of the system are portrayed as the "real threat" to white suburban voters. |
Response to Moostache (Reply #10)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:21 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (41,853 posts)
12. You seem to forget deterrence is a form of prevention & cops role in investigation is deterrent. nt
Response to Moostache (Reply #10)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 01:03 PM
MiHale (6,636 posts)
15. Well said...
Your last paragraph expresses my belief in where the future may lie. Is there enough time to “right the boat”? We will know by 2023.
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Response to marble falls (Original post)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:28 AM
KS Toronado (8,078 posts)
6. Nurses who don't believe in medicine....is really surprising
They must believe in that reQublicOn idea of "Party before patients"
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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:40 AM
mucifer (21,304 posts)
8. They have their own "scientists" and their own "evidence"
Response to mucifer (Reply #8)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:01 PM
StClone (11,275 posts)
11. Those in medicine who don't believe in vaccines (Science)
Are like lifeguards who don't believe in swimming.
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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 12:31 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (41,853 posts)
13. Many say they believe in vaccines but not "experimental vaccines" or mRNA is not a "vaccine"
Many think that hordes of vaxxed people are dying and that vax death rates are running twice covid death rates. They say that maybe in a few years mRNA will be proven safe. The kill shot was designed to thin out certain demographic ethnicities.
A gullible, soft population has walked willingly into that night. We are going to need bulldozers to bury the dead. 3 posted on 2021-10-01 by LFOD The vaccine injured are being screened at the ER prior to even being
allowed to enter the patient treatment area. If the staff sniffs out a person who is likely to have been injured by a vaccine, they are ignoring that person to within an inch of their life until they leave the ER waiting room and go home in frustration. This to avoid upping the hospitalization statistics associated with the vaccine-injured. Tell me I am making this up. 51 posted on 2021-10-01 by one guy in new jersey Agreed. 48 months tops. The cancers are starting. Not saying Covid
isn’t real but the vax will end up being worse than Covid. I hope I am wrong. I pray I’m wrong and that I’m just paranoid. 94 posted on 2021-10-01 by wgmalabama |
Response to marble falls (Original post)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 11:44 AM
Moostache (9,537 posts)
9. Expand it to government...
Then we can get elected representatives who don't believe in elections to quit too!
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Response to marble falls (Original post)
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:03 PM
live love laugh (8,359 posts)
16. I love him. nt
Response to marble falls (Original post)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 09:45 AM
Paladin (25,422 posts)
19. Amen, amen, amen. (nt)
Response to marble falls (Original post)
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 11:33 AM
dalton99a (69,291 posts)