2 off-duty Cops fatally shoot naked woman

[superpatriotman]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57536751/2-off-duty-fla-officers-fatally-shoot-naked-woman/?tag=contentAux;mostPopular

Authorities say two off-duty Florida law-enforcement officers have fatally shot an armed, naked woman who confronted them at a social gathering.

The shooting occurred sometime Saturday in Hernando County.

The county sheriff's office said in a news release that the men were approached by an "armed, naked and irrational female." The news release does not identify the weapon, but it says "one or both of the law enforcement officers fired their weapons, striking the female." She died at the scene.

Both officers have been placed on administrative leave as the Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigates.

Authorities have identified the officers as Hernando County sheriff's Detective Rocky Howard and Tampa police officer William Mechler, who have served six and four years, respectively. Tampa police say Mechler was "off duty and acting in the capacity of a private citizen."

No tasers, pepper spray, martial arts training?

[loli phabay]

1. off duty equals no taser or pepper spray and she was armed with some weapon

No one expects a cop to go hands on with someone armed even with a knife.

[Logical]

6. Lets wait to see what "weapon" means to these cops. I don't trust them needless to say.

[Jamastiene]

2. What's up with these naked people attacking people? n/t

[loli phabay]

3. it does seem to be in the press a lot nowadays. wonder if this is another bath salts situation

[Jamastiene]

9. What gets me is the face chewing guy turned out to only have marijuana in his system.

...and no bath salts, like they originally suspected. I'm still baffled over that one.

There has to be some reason people are going around naked and attacking people.

[lalalu]

11. Many synthetic additives to

weed cannot be detected during autopsies. He may only have smoked but many add to the joints with things like DIP or PCP. There are those who just use weed and then there are those who want embalming fluid or other junk added to their weed.

[Jamastiene]

27. That's true.

I don't know why anyone would want to use anything synthetic anyhow, when the natural stuff is already potent enough, as is. But, they do and wow, are the results bad in a lot of cases.

[seabeyond]

8. this is what i was thinking. maybe a drug make clothes constrictive, uncomfortable hence the need

to strip.

but, ya.... something up

[lalalu]

10. Bad drugs and stupid people do not make a good combination.

A lot of this stuff is synthetic or a mixture and does serious damage to the nervous system in a short time.

[4th law of robotics]

16. I suspect drugs may have been a factor

For some reason stripping naked and attacking cops makes a lot of sense when under the influence.

[Johnyawl]

4. What part of "ARMED" didn't you understand?

..."naked and irrational" indicates crazy (or drugged);

...and crazy (or drugged) and armed indicates extremely dangerous.

If she was in fact armed, they were right to shoot her.

[L0oniX]

12. +1 ...I would have shot her too.

[redgreenandblue]

13. Does she not have the right to bear arms, even if she is naked?

I did not read that they were attacked. The excerpt says "approached".

[L0oniX]

18. Brandishing a gun = mandatory 3 years in prison with no time off for good behavior.

Anyone who brandishes a gun in public is a threat. Don't know if it was a gun but a knife can be just as deadly.

[Ohio Joe]

17. A shame they do not define 'armed' or 'irrational'...

They can mean many things... Was she holding a Worden spoon? Those fuckers can hurt but do not require shooting the person dead. Did she have a rocket launcher? I would shoot someone that pointed a rocket launcher at me. Was she screaming about killing everyone or was she looking for help in finding her talking dog Wilbur? The problem is, there is simply not enough detail in the article to determine if they were justified in shooting or if they are murderers.

[lalalu]

5. If a crazy naked person is running around the

streets I hope they don't come in my direction. I will yell stop only once and then that is it. They are not ripping a part of my face off and I will use whatever deadly force i can to stop them. If these people continue to use crap that turns them into rabid dogs then they get treated like rabid dogs.

Normally I am on the side of holding police more accountable for their actions. If you choose to put on the badge and have the right to kill then you should be held to a higher standard. That does not mean they are superhuman and can perform feats seen in movies. You have to get close to taser and these people are taking chomps out of people. In many cases these people are being pepper sprayed and shot and keep going. At that point martial arts are out of the question and honestly I would shoot them dead too.

Here is a better idea. Stop taking drugs that make you rip off your clothes and attack people.

[geckosfeet]

7. Yes. Not being your right mind justfies execution.

What "weapon" was she wielding? Can this be any vaguer and less detailed?

Someone is shot and killed and the big news is that the victim is an "armed, naked and irrational female." No details on anything. Armed? With what? Irrational? What was she doing (besides being naked which in itself is not cause for execution)? Female? Uhhhh. Lets not even go there.

Can't we at least be told if she was pointing a firearm or swinging a damn big edged weapon?

What crap reporting. Who works for news organizations these days? Monkeys?

[Comrade Grumpy]

14. The (lack of) information came from the cops' press release.

[L0oniX]

15. Sure ...let's wait until she points the weapon at you ...maybe wait until you hear a BANG too!

[geckosfeet]

23. uhhh. Yeah. That's what I said.

NOT

[4th law of robotics]

19. Using lethal force in self-defense =/= execution

Someone is shot and killed and the big news is that the victim is an "armed, naked and irrational female." No details on anything. Armed? With what? Irrational? What was she doing (besides being naked which in itself is not cause for execution)? Female? Uhhhh. Lets not even go there.

Female is a descriptive term, if it were a man they'd have said that. Being naked and armed and attacking a cop (or two) is pretty key to the story.

Should they not have mentioned those details?

[RC]

20. Correct. Couldn't they keep her occupied and have someone call for backup.

Tasers, nets, tranquilizer gun, over power. Why be so quick to dispatch people?

What was the weapon? Nail clippers? A 50 caliber machine gun? What? More information or these two cops need to be out of a job.

[superpatriotman]

21. more info:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1257577.ece

The incident happened at a party about 1:17 p.m. at 9070 Orchard Parkway.

Hernando County sheriff's Detective Rocky Howard, 31, and Tampa police Officer William Mechler, 26, were attending the gathering when the woman, who was acting irrationally, approached them, said Hernando sheriff's Lt. Cinda Moore.

"It's my understanding that they did not know her," Moore said.

The woman left the gathering and returned a short time later with a weapon, officials said. Authorities did not disclose the weapon type; nor did they release the woman's name or age.

When she returned, one or both men fired their guns. She died at the scene.

"I can tell you that she was not part of the gathering, nor was she invited to the gathering," said Hernando County Sheriff Al Nienhaus. "So, it wasn't like she was invited to the group. She actually came up uninvited."

[geckosfeet]

24. "She actually came up uninvited." Even more reason to kill her.

[TrogL]

22. So what was the weapon? A banana? (mandatory Monty Python reference)

[OldDem2012]

26. Or perhaps a cheese-grater or egg-beater? "It looked like a gun!" nt.

[OldDem2012]

25. This story stinks out loud. nt.