Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:03 AM
bluestarone (14,724 posts)
I have ONE question about DEATH Santis Florida
Are people allowed to get the anti-body treatment, IN PLACE of the vaccination?
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18 replies, 1275 views
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Author | Time | Post |
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bluestarone | Sep 2021 | OP |
snowybirdie | Sep 2021 | #1 | |
ananda | Sep 2021 | #12 | |
mitch96 | Sep 2021 | #14 | |
flying_wahini | Sep 2021 | #2 | |
Kid Berwyn | Sep 2021 | #15 | |
PortTack | Sep 2021 | #3 | |
bluestarone | Sep 2021 | #4 | |
ancianita | Sep 2021 | #5 | |
SayItLoud | Sep 2021 | #6 | |
obamanut2012 | Sep 2021 | #7 | |
Roland99 | Sep 2021 | #8 | |
ancianita | Sep 2021 | #10 | |
Effete Snob | Sep 2021 | #11 | |
ancianita | Sep 2021 | #13 | |
Effete Snob | Sep 2021 | #16 | |
ancianita | Sep 2021 | #17 | |
zuul | Sep 2021 | #9 | |
Corgigal | Sep 2021 | #18 |
Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:05 AM
snowybirdie (4,498 posts)
1. He's opened up
free antibody clinics all over the state. Appearing on tv every day to tout them.
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Response to snowybirdie (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:25 PM
ananda (27,545 posts)
12. That's bc he's invested in the antibody company.
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Response to ananda (Reply #12)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 02:53 PM
mitch96 (12,037 posts)
14. and And AND his biggest contributor owns the company that provides monoclonal antibodies...nt
Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:07 AM
flying_wahini (5,007 posts)
2. He owns stock, probably. Or getting a kickback.
Response to flying_wahini (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 04:00 PM
Kid Berwyn (11,519 posts)
15. (IN TONY SOPRANO VOICE)
“It’s a commission!”
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Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:07 AM
PortTack (29,109 posts)
3. The CEO of the company that makes regeneron has given huge donations to his campaign
So yes, deathsatan pushes it.
He was buying up all the supply, but now His efforts aren’t going quite as he’d hoped as The monoclonal antibodies are now being evenly distributed among the states. |
Response to PortTack (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:10 AM
bluestarone (14,724 posts)
4. I was thinking that you had to have symptoms BEFORE
You could be allowed to get this treatment? Guess i was wrong? THIS surely interferes with the vaccinations given.
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Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:19 AM
ancianita (30,858 posts)
5. YES. Ken Griffin, major investor in monoclonal treatments, is DeSenseless' number 1 donor. So...
he'd prefer his donor profit than the Biden admdinistration get credit for vaccinations. It's that simple. 21 counties offer the treatment. Can't find a postable chart, but I'll try.
One can assume that DeSantis, like most Republicans, welcomes any kickbacks. ![]() |
Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:28 AM
SayItLoud (1,637 posts)
6. Grifters strategy:
When, eventually , the pandemic will be declared "over" the likes of DeathSantis will claim they were right. They kept their states businesses open and life is just grand BECAUSE of them. Re elect me...make me potus. What the media will ignore are the deaths of old, young and in between that didn't have to happen but did because of the DeathSantis's of America.
That strategy for Covid is also the GQPers strategy for the debt, infrastructure, voting laws. Everything. The media moves on and the information changes and the lemmings and sheep forget. Rant over. |
Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:29 AM
obamanut2012 (23,832 posts)
7. Yes
Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:32 AM
Roland99 (53,046 posts)
8. It's pretty open access. And I'm actually thankful for it
Yeah. There’s a donor that’s likely benefitting but it’s helping people
Wife and I got it last Friday. Both have breakthrough cases. Thur night was rough for me. Still having congestion and a minor cough We had kids go get it too as they were exposed to us. But it’s only temporary. It’s not a vaccine. |
Response to Roland99 (Reply #8)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:39 AM
ancianita (30,858 posts)
10. "But it's only temporary. It's not a vaccine." Which is why corporate solutions never help, just
further prop more grifts. Big Corps are big grifts in their own right. Because any temporary good builds their credibility, which shows a bad historical record.
Pro-corps right wingers want their base to believe that their solutions are better than pro-science Lefties. They all know that the vaccine is available. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #10)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:24 PM
Effete Snob (5,769 posts)
11. In what way are the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines not "corporate solutions"?
The Pfizer vaccine was entirely developed independent of government funding. So, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around what distinction you are trying to make between a vaccine developed and sold by a corporation and a treatment developed and sold by a corporation. The vaccines, also, eventually wane in effectiveness. It would be far more preferable if more people were vaccinated in the first place, but explain to me how that is not a "corporate solution". |
Response to Effete Snob (Reply #11)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:03 PM
ancianita (30,858 posts)
13. Sure. I was speaking generally, since I'm anti-corporate in general when they are depended on
for disaster help; e.g., the totally corporate run Texas electrical grid last winter. Any time humans need disaster help, corporate solutions don't exist except when profitable -- no profit, no help -- and even then usually FEMA outsourced with American tax dollars.
The anti-covid genetic component, stripped out of COVID-19 by CRISPER Cas9, was the science solution, publicly funded at a CA university; without that, the corporate vaccine delivery system of either Pfizer or Moderna wouldn't have solved anything. Pfizer's strength has been huge batch production. Moderna's strength was more the lab science that had been trial and error trying, but failing, to develop mRNA vaccines. It wasn't until Jennifer Doudna's scientific team out of Berkeley, worked with Moderna's team to put her patented genetic cutting tools to work on COVID-19. So then Pfizer joined with Moderna to produce together a big corporate solution of production and distribution. That could have been their corporate idea or our government's, I don't know. In terms of corporate solutions, the vaccine couldn't have been produced any sooner than it was due to the FDA's requirements for human testing data -- the government quality assurance part that is not a corporate solution. So Pfizer and Moderna, the biggest, had the best rollout overall, and though it was "emergency authorized" by the FDA, it was a slow logistical problem in December and January, which was a corporate problem. Or maybe a Trump distribution decision, I don't know. It's true that vaccines wane in effectiveness, but effectiveness is permanent when a booster is available, as with small pox and polio, and that's why it's far more preferable. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #13)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 04:41 PM
Effete Snob (5,769 posts)
16. I still don't get what you are driving at
Regeneron's MAB treatment is, of course, also built on a foundation of fundamental science research conducted by the relevant academic, government and industrial labs as well. There's nothing in medicine that isn't, in one way or another, connected with public research. |
Response to Effete Snob (Reply #16)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 05:26 PM
ancianita (30,858 posts)
17. I don't get what you're driving at, either.
When you say,
but explain to me how that is not a "corporate solution," what exactly is the "that" that you want explained.
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Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:36 AM
zuul (14,032 posts)
9. It's amazing that the anti-vaxxers won't take the vaccine
because they don't kow what's in it, but they will happily take Regeneron, even though they don't know what's in that either.
Repube logic . . . I don't get it. |
Response to bluestarone (Original post)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 05:31 PM
Corgigal (9,291 posts)