Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:46 PM

Chances that Sinema/Manchin agree to carve out on Voting Rights.

I know we are consumed right now with infrastructure, debt ceiling, etc.
But I’m still laser focused on the Voting Suppression by the Republicans.
We have to stop it with a filibuster carve out.
Do Sinema and Manchin finally agree to it?
I think there’s about a 50-50 chance that they eventually will.

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Chances that Sinema/Manchin agree to carve out on Voting Rights. (Original post)	Funtatlaguy	Sep 2021	OP
very slim they are for not changing the filibuster	TheLegend	Sep 2021	#1
I don't think the filibuster has to technically be changed	Funtatlaguy	Sep 2021	#2
It's just like when Reid removed the filibuster for cabinet positions and federal judges	Calista241	Sep 2021	#5
I have no faith in either of them	Bettie	Sep 2021	#3
0.0	qazplm135	Sep 2021	#4
It would be great if they did, but unfortunately I think we will have to wait and see if we can gain	ColinC	Sep 2021	#6
Slim to none, unfortunately ...	Patton French	Sep 2021	#7

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:51 PM

TheLegend (12 posts)

1. very slim they are for not changing the filibuster

which they are putting our democracy at risk

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Response to TheLegend (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:57 PM

Funtatlaguy (9,822 posts)

2. I don't think the filibuster has to technically be changed

With a carve out.
I think it’s just like having an exemption.
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:08 PM

Calista241 (5,444 posts)

5. It's just like when Reid removed the filibuster for cabinet positions and federal judges

And when McConnell removed it for Supreme Court Justices. The process to change the rules is the same.

Schumer will bring a cloture vote to the floor, which will fail. Then he'll move to bring the legislation to the floor anyway, at which point it'll be ruled out of order. Then he'll have to submit a change in the rules, to exclude a certain type of legislation from the filibuster rule.

Manchin is on record saying that if any changes will effectively remove the filibuster in its entirety.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:59 PM

Bettie (13,698 posts)

3. I have no faith in either of them

doing the right thing. Ever.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:03 PM

qazplm135 (7,235 posts)

4. 0.0

repeating

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:19 PM

ColinC (5,659 posts)

6. It would be great if they did, but unfortunately I think we will have to wait and see if we can gain

seats next year, and then pass what we can then. In the meantime, I guess the best we can do is focus on pushing through as many judges as possible and retaking the courts.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:55 PM

Patton French (466 posts)

7. Slim to none, unfortunately ...

… and slim just left the building.

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