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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:53 PM Sep 2021

Texas Embalmer Shares Nightmare COVID Experiences: 'Unlike Anything I've Seen Before'

Not for the faint of heart.

HUFFPOST PERSONAL
09/13/2021 09:08 am ET Updated 10 hours ago
Texas Embalmer Shares Nightmare COVID Experiences: ‘Unlike Anything I’ve Seen Before’
“I don’t know how much longer I can keep working this way,” the funeral professional told HuffPost.
By Noah Michelson

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We’ve just had to buckle down and do the best that we can. The internet has been a blessing because it allows all of us embalmers to communicate and find out what issues everyone is having because so much of this has been unlike anything we’ve seen before. We get bodies out of ICU regularly, but not in the condition that these COVID bodies are in. They’re tremendously swollen. If they’ve been on a ventilator, that often completely runs down their immune system. It also opens them up to a lot of sepsis and secondary infections that tend to hang around hospitals, like penicillin-resistant staph infections.

These folks were so swollen they were completely unrecognizable. We were also getting sent a lot of people who had died from COVID in nursing homes back at that time, and many of them had not been dead very long at all. Generally when we embalm, we utilize a major artery to inject the embalming fluid and we use its adjoining vein for drainage. The blood tends to settle out because it’s no longer flowing and it’ll gravitate to the dependent part of the body. The longer a body sits, the more blood clots that they develop. I was having people that had only been dead for a few hours and there were major clotting issues. The clots were the size of pancakes ― you never, never see those with someone who didn’t die of COVID.

I’ve been doing this for 30 years and pretty much everywhere I’ve worked has been medium to high volume. I’m not one of those embalmers that works at a place that just does 50 or 60 bodies a year. So I’ve done this long enough and I’ve seen enough that I would know when something different pops up. COVID is unlike anything I’ve seen before.

Many of the people who were in the ICU were on ventilators, and they put adhesive patches on their cheeks. They can easily become septic and they drip that septic saliva on the sides of their faces and the skin in that area gets infected. We were literally receiving bodies with huge lesions on their cheeks or [patches that had gone] gangrene. The sad part is the families of these people, at that point, hadn’t been allowed to see their loved ones during the several weeks that they were in the ICU. So the body comes out in an almost unrecognizable condition, and then you have to explain to their family that their loved one doesn’t look anything like what they should.

Despite the fact that I specialize in postmortem reconstruction ― accidents, trauma, stuff like that ― when the bodies are that swollen, there is very little I can do to eliminate that. And for a lot of these families, it’s just a tremendous shock. I’ve had husbands and wives die within days of each other. I’ve seen entire families wiped out. It’s horrible.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-covid-embalmers-patrick-huey_n_612feb0be4b0aac9c012139c

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Texas Embalmer Shares Nightmare COVID Experiences: 'Unlike Anything I've Seen Before' (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2021 OP
Cremation with in 24 hours of death multigraincracker Sep 2021 #1
Also forego the traditional viewing/wake at the funeral home FakeNoose Sep 2021 #5
You realize just how bad the effects of this virus are when you hear an undertaker voice its worse napi21 Sep 2021 #2
Apparently the undertaker specializes in embalming ALBliberal Sep 2021 #17
Thank you for posting this MustLoveBeagles Sep 2021 #3
Cannot imagine telling a grieving family AllyCat Sep 2021 #16
I just thought of something else. Are the undertakers at risk of getting infected with the virus napi21 Sep 2021 #4
Another DU post today said they are in full PPE yonder Sep 2021 #6
Yes, the virus can still survive in dead bodies. Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #7
Yup, aerosols can still come out of their nose and mouth days after death IronLionZion Sep 2021 #18
the author wrote this orleans Sep 2021 #21
I was not a harsh guy before Covid, although I had my moments GulfCoast66 Sep 2021 #8
many people (especially immediate family) want to view the body even if cremation is planned yellowdogintexas Sep 2021 #15
I've thought of doing that myself. calimary Sep 2021 #19
so so so sad and horrible for the families. riversedge Sep 2021 #9
At this rate Traildogbob Sep 2021 #10
I could not ellie Sep 2021 #11
K&R spanone Sep 2021 #12
Maybe this guy should be interviewed for Fox. My mother died 15 years ago from a botched heart stent Pepsidog Sep 2021 #13
My mother's husband was cremated within 24 hours of dying from covid last week. MissB Sep 2021 #14
Brutal. calimary Sep 2021 #20
IMO, it's bad enough just seeing grey cold embalmed bodies nitpicker Sep 2021 #22

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
5. Also forego the traditional viewing/wake at the funeral home
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:19 PM
Sep 2021

Have a memorial service instead where the body is not on display. A memorial is often done after the burial or cremation, sometimes even several week later. That's a good helpful thing for the family, and for friends who need to travel long distances to attend.

The rules and customs regarding funerals have changed quite a bit in the last 1.5 years.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. You realize just how bad the effects of this virus are when you hear an undertaker voice its worse
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:07 PM
Sep 2021

than anything he's seen before. To me, it seems the undertaker should speak to the family before he embalms the body & explain what the problems are & what he can & can't do. I think the shock & surprise of seeing their loved one look so different than they remembered is worse than hearing it up front.

Until I read this post, I never gave it a thought that the body would be so adversely affected.

ALBliberal

(2,339 posts)
17. Apparently the undertaker specializes in embalming
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:52 PM
Sep 2021

Bodies resulting from trauma (car crashes and so on). So he’s seen a lot! Nothing like this however.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
3. Thank you for posting this
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:08 PM
Sep 2021

I've read extensively about the hell that medical personal have gone though. I hadn't given much thought to what those in the funeral industry are dealing with.

AllyCat

(16,177 posts)
16. Cannot imagine telling a grieving family
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:44 PM
Sep 2021

They may not want to see their loved one. I think of all the workers who will have PTSD after this is over. I hope it is over at some point.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
4. I just thought of something else. Are the undertakers at risk of getting infected with the virus
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:09 PM
Sep 2021

from remaining virus cells in the bodies they must prepare?

yonder

(9,663 posts)
6. Another DU post today said they are in full PPE
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:24 PM
Sep 2021

just to administer hazardous embalming fluid. I don't know if that protection extends to infectious agents from the body itself.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
7. Yes, the virus can still survive in dead bodies.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:40 PM
Sep 2021

Like most pandemics, bodies of the victims are still contagious after death.

But since the bodies don't breath, airborne transmission is not likely.

orleans

(34,049 posts)
21. the author wrote this
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 02:38 AM
Sep 2021

"we’re wearing our standard personal protective equipment and taking extra precautions ― keep our faces covered and doing whatever we can to keep our risks as low as we possibly can. As far as handling the body goes, if you roll the body, if you put pressure on the chest, there’s the chance of expelling air from the lungs."

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
8. I was not a harsh guy before Covid, although I had my moments
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:45 PM
Sep 2021

Now I’m just course.

The funeral homes should offer to let the dead person’s loved ones view the body. I would. Warm them ahead of time, of course. Let them choose.

Cold? Maybe. Cruel? You could make the argument.

But hiding what death by Covid looks like is just dishonest and counterproductive.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
15. many people (especially immediate family) want to view the body even if cremation is planned
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:35 PM
Sep 2021

or a closed casket. It seems closed caskets, memorials after the burial/cremation are more and more common and the open casket less common.

If someone has the guts to do it, then they have the right to view the remains of their loved one but not without being told what to expect

My grandmother always wanted to see the body and if one of us went to a funeral or visitation her first question was "Did you see the body?"

My dad suicided by gun. The only person who saw him afterwards was my mother. She went in to the treatment room at the ER and when she came out she told us not to go in.
There was no way she was going to let us do that unless we insisted. The casket was closed at the funeral.

As for me I am donating my body to science.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
19. I've thought of doing that myself.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 01:38 AM
Sep 2021

One way to make sure you’re dead before you’re fully dispensed with.

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
10. At this rate
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 10:35 PM
Sep 2021

Of death and climbing, I believe we may run out of buried sites. Cremation may be the only option. If that offends religious folks, tough, they all claimed Jesus would save them. Mass burial for those. Instead of freezer trucks, bring in fire chambers on wheels.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
13. Maybe this guy should be interviewed for Fox. My mother died 15 years ago from a botched heart stent
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:10 PM
Sep 2021

procedure. She was bleeding in the recovery room and was on a trial blood thinner. Long story short, they knocked something during the procedure and the blood thinner they used couldn’t be easily reversed with a shot of Vitamin K. She ended up after several days with sepsis that eventually shut down her organs. When we went into the hospital room to say our goodbyes before we turned off the ventilator I was shocked. She was swollen up like a balloon ready to pop. I barely recognized her. She was 65 years old and this was her first health scare and it was just a stent for 1 artery that was suppose to be routine. I feel very sorry for the families. Maybe they should show these dead bodies on tv shock some sense into the anti-vaxers. And of the people who died were anti-vaxers well that’s just too bad. I have no sympathy for them.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
14. My mother's husband was cremated within 24 hours of dying from covid last week.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 11:13 PM
Sep 2021

Yes, he was on a vent for a bit more than a week and his body was quite swollen.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
22. IMO, it's bad enough just seeing grey cold embalmed bodies
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:19 PM
Sep 2021

I can/can't think what this guy is experiencing.

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