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Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:48 AM

Mad cougher in Nebraska fired

https://www.ibtimes.sg/janene-hoskovec-sap-employee-fired-after-intentionally-coughing-shoppers-nebraska-grocery-store-60123

Lady was fired from SAP who attempted to assault mask wearers. I assume she had a high-paying job

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Reply Mad cougher in Nebraska fired (Original post)
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 OP
MissMillie Sep 2021 #1
modrepub Sep 2021 #3
luv2fly Sep 2021 #28
griffi94 Sep 2021 #31
AllyCat Sep 2021 #32
Treefrog Sep 2021 #66
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #68
Treefrog Sep 2021 #73
modrepub Sep 2021 #60
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #62
Tarheel_Dem Sep 2021 #79
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #4
usaf-vet Sep 2021 #36
Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #77
Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #2
Roc2020 Sep 2021 #15
Escurumbele Sep 2021 #21
panader0 Sep 2021 #5
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #6
calimary Sep 2021 #50
Hortensis Sep 2021 #7
maxrandb Sep 2021 #8
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #13
getagrip_already Sep 2021 #16
Hortensis Sep 2021 #27
Random Boomer Sep 2021 #53
Hortensis Sep 2021 #58
Random Boomer Sep 2021 #63
Hortensis Sep 2021 #65
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #18
Hortensis Sep 2021 #29
getagrip_already Sep 2021 #70
Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #57
Hortensis Sep 2021 #61
Random Boomer Sep 2021 #64
underpants Sep 2021 #9
Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #12
Sneederbunk Sep 2021 #19
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #22
usaf-vet Sep 2021 #40
hibbing Sep 2021 #25
underpants Sep 2021 #26
mnhtnbb Sep 2021 #30
highplainsdem Sep 2021 #10
BlueBassLines Sep 2021 #11
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #14
PatSeg Sep 2021 #41
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #43
PatSeg Sep 2021 #51
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #67
PatSeg Sep 2021 #71
llashram Sep 2021 #45
PatSeg Sep 2021 #54
durablend Sep 2021 #17
AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #20
Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #23
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #24
spooky3 Sep 2021 #38
Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #56
mitch96 Sep 2021 #33
BradBo Sep 2021 #35
mitch96 Sep 2021 #39
usaf-vet Sep 2021 #49
mitch96 Sep 2021 #72
ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #75
BradBo Sep 2021 #34
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #37
SayitAintSo Sep 2021 #42
llashram Sep 2021 #44
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #46
usaf-vet Sep 2021 #52
C Moon Sep 2021 #47
Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #59
Snackshack Sep 2021 #48
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #80
MagickMuffin Sep 2021 #55
XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #69
Baltimike Sep 2021 #74
Skittles Sep 2021 #76
Blue Owl Sep 2021 #78

Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:00 AM

1. To think...

she could have just walked away in her disagreement. But no, she HAD to expend effort and energy to be an ass.

Evil personified.

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Response to MissMillie (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:03 AM

3. White Privilege

EOM

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Response to modrepub (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:26 AM

28. Every stupid action by a white person is not white privilege

Sometimes they are just stupid.

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Response to luv2fly (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:36 AM

31. Yep

Stupid and angry.

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Response to luv2fly (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:57 AM

32. Actually, without a pandemic, had a POC done this

They would not have been treated the same. Vigilante shoppers would have intervened and likely not in an appropriate way.

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #32)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:06 PM

66. POC have done it.

 

Most instances were posted here. In one case, the woman was so angry at not being admitted without a mask, she went back and got her boyfriend - who shot and killed the guard who wouldnít let her in the store.

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Response to Treefrog (Reply #66)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:54 PM

68. at the Dollar Store

and the poor victim was just doing his job and had kids

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #68)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 05:34 PM

73. That's right.

 

I couldnít remember the store. Several other incidences, and I donít remember any vigilantes taking action.

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Response to luv2fly (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:42 PM

60. ON, Maybe Naivety Is A Better Description

Meaning, the total lack of awareness that ones actions could have consequences. She surely didn't think anyone would do anything to her for her actions. There's a reason why POC have far more run ins with the law than folks with low melanin levels. Don't ya think?

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Response to modrepub (Reply #60)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:50 PM

62. Naivety? Nah just a stupid asshole.

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Response to modrepub (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 12:10 AM

79. Speaking as an AA myself, I can affirm that stupidity and obnoxious behavior is not limited to...

white people only. There's been bad behavior from every color of the rainbow since this pandemic began. I can also affirm that in my own family, there were those who didn't believe this virus was real. Trust me, after losing scores of family members, church members, schoolmates, etc., they believe it now.

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Response to MissMillie (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:05 AM

4. hope it was worth it nt

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:09 AM

36. Maybe it wasn't here is one national web source for salaries with the company where she lost her job

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #36)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:16 PM

77. That is a lot of money to throw away just to harass and bully people wearing a mask.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:02 AM

2. Actions sometimes do have consequences.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:45 AM

15. Actions always has consequences

only most times we don't see them

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:04 AM

21. Actions ALWAYS have consequences, its just that some are so small they don't get noticed

In her case? Well...I hope she is happy about being stupid.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:07 AM

5. She needs to be arrested.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:08 AM

6. and pepper sprayed nt

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Response to panader0 (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:35 AM

50. For reckless endangerment!

Could even be attempted murder.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:15 AM

7. Activists said they sifted through profiles and activities in

 

"Nebraska-based anti-mask groups," whatever that actually means, to find her. "It was definitely on the easier end of people we've found."

Don't know how SAP pays, but just read that "client partners" average $62/hour. With this update to her CV, maybe she'll go into politics.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:18 AM

8. Sadly, in Nebraska, she'd win election in a landslide

we live in fucked up times.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:37 AM

13. Yeah, she's from AZ

Weird wht she's in NE. Well, welcome to at-will employment, Ma'am.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:50 AM

16. SAP pays direct employees very well.....

And it has excellent benefits. Contractors tend to be job shop stuff. But if you have SAP creds and consult elsewhere, you can make $150+hr.

She sounds like a standard IT tool though. Probably in the $75-$100k range.

Whatever it is, she can expect half or less elsewhere since elsewhere won't be a top tier company. With fewer benefits.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #16)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:19 AM

27. Thanks for the employment picture. I pulled the "average" from the

 

first employment website I came on.

Well, we saw her awful "before." Whatever had her so aggressively hostile before, she has rational reason to be upset now, minus the smiling confidence. I read that that county has a mask mandate and that elsewhere a number of hoodlums have been prosecuted for coughing at people.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #16)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:39 AM

53. She's toxic now

Successful companies run a social media check on all prospective employees, and her name will pull up a bonanza of material. Why hire someone with such a high profile for controversy, not to mention questionable judgment.

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Response to Random Boomer (Reply #53)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:35 PM

58. Yes. Certainly can't do her old job. Even strong RW clients might

 

have serious concerns about her judgement and ethics (as they relate to them).

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #58)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:00 PM

63. Exactly

Even if individual executives agree with her stance on masking, companies loathe controversy and bad publicity. There's no upside to having an employee's photo plastered all over the internet, with their company affiliation dragged through whatever controversy is at stake. Also, losing your shit in public is a tip-off that you're not a good investment.

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Response to Random Boomer (Reply #63)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:04 PM

65. Lol, that last for sure!

 

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:58 AM

18. 62/hr!?

My job required, at least, one master's degree, and we damn well were not paid that!

Of course, I didn't have a bogus law degree

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:28 AM

29. :) Some areas of business just have more money spread around.

 

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 02:25 PM

70. That's a pretty standard contract rate for someone with specific skills....

$60/hour is pretty much what a sql expert, a very good windows admin (specializing in azure, ad, etc), or other generic specialty would get.

If you SAP certifications and a track record, you could easily get $150/hour from an agency. I was on a project where they paid a middleware expert $300/hour.

She likely isn't a contractor though. It sounds like she "was" an employee.

Now, she can't even get unemployment.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:31 PM

57. It is interesting that her mother apparently disagrees with her opinions

Her mother appears to live in Nebraska, wears a mask in photos posted on her facebook page, as well as promoting quarantining early in the pandemic.

My guess is that she was visiting her mother and figured no one would know her so she felt freer to ack like a jackass in the store.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #57)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:46 PM

61. That last very possible. Her poor mother; likely was at least proud that

 

her daughter was doing well with work.

Reminds me that 91% of over-65s are vaccinated, which includes most over-65 RWers.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #57)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:02 PM

64. Someone in IT should know better

There is no assurance of anonymity in the virtual global world of today.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:18 AM

9. This makes no sense..

She willingly went to Nebraska?

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Response to underpants (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:34 AM

12. LOL!



It is a mystery!

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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:03 AM

19. She is from there and has family there.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:05 AM

22. Wonder if they're nuts, too nt

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:13 AM

40. If that is the case that in itself IMO would explain her attitude. Nebraskan are mainly RW.

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Response to underpants (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:15 AM

25. Hey now!

Yes it's red, but at least I live in the liberal bastion of the state. (More like moderate Democratic)


Peace!

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Response to hibbing (Reply #25)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:17 AM

26. 😆

Just kidding. Some coworkers went there for a conference in Lincoln and loved it.

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Response to underpants (Reply #26)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:30 AM

30. I lived in Lincoln from 1984-2000

and was ecstatic when we moved. Yes, Lincoln is the most liberal area of the state, but that's not saying much. Very right wing diocese and lots of anti choice zealots. They used to picket the Presbyterian church in our neighborhood because the OB/Gyn who did abortions was a deacon there. They'd surround this huge church on Sunday morning holding up giant posters of aborted fetuses. They harassed the place where his wife worked to the point she was fired. Nice people.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:26 AM

11. Love it

She got exactly what she asked for and then some.
These people are on the wrong side of history (see all previous pandemics in human history).

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Response to BlueBassLines (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:45 AM

14. I'm usually on workers' side

but this made my day. She couldn't just mind her business. As an IT whatever, doesn't she know filmed shit can go viral in minutes? Smh

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:14 AM

41. Yes, the stupidity is even more alarming

than the arrogant rudeness. She knew she was being recorded and that seemed to just spur her on. She went out of her way to ridicule and attack perfect strangers in a grocery store. It didn't even faze her that she was being recorded or that other people were watching.

Even if there was no pandemic, when has such behavior ever been acceptable?

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #41)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:20 AM

43. When she said they were cute sheep

I wanted to smack her

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #43)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:38 AM

51. I'm just trying to imagine the things

she has done and said when she wasn't being recorded. I doubt this was just some one-off event. She must be a riot to live with.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #51)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:53 PM

67. Or work for nt

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #67)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 03:14 PM

71. Oh yes, what a horrid thought

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #41)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:26 AM

45. since trump told them

hate and assault/murder was acceptable.

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Response to llashram (Reply #45)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:39 AM

54. Yes, I suppose

She was just waiting for someone to give her permission to be the rotten human being she already was. Trump let her out of the closet.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:53 AM

17. Next stop...Fox News commentator

Has she started whining about "cancel culture" yet?

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:03 AM

20. if they do that to me , i have the right to go full krakatoa.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:08 AM

23. This has happened so many times but since Faux news et al don't cover it these people have no idea

they are about to be sacked. To them it is shocking. Not if you pay attention to the real world!

Now explain to your family why unemployment turned you away. Hope you have enough money to get you through this down time. For prospective employers the internet is forever.

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Response to Tadpole Raisin (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:13 AM

24. They're so arrogant nt

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Response to Tadpole Raisin (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:12 AM

38. That's the thing--employers won't touch her resume now. Nt

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #38)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:03 PM

56. Yup! And if she is really clueless she will post on whatever social media page she has about her

rights being violated blah blah blah, and wonder why when she professes to have learned her lesson employers still donít hire her cuz they see she hasnít learned a thing when they check her social media. Is there any employee in the U. S. Who doesnít know how things work?

Iíve heard of people going on sick leave but then posting on fb with pictures about their partying.

Fired!

I donít do fb but others who do told me about a couple of cases.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:05 AM

33. What is SAP?? nt

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #33)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:08 AM

35. A company the 1% use to add to our deficit so they can make trillions and not contribute.

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Response to BradBo (Reply #35)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:13 AM

39. Ok, but what is SAP? what kind of company? Mfg? IT? Inquiring minds want to know..nt

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #39)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:34 AM

49. IT software developers. Average pay by one source $104,000/year. With full healthcare insurance.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #49)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 03:31 PM

72. Thanks!!👍. nt

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #39)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 05:58 PM

75. SAP Is A Massive Transactional Database Platform

Depending upon how many modules are turned on, it can be used to track transactions in a company, from inventory control, procurement, accounts payable/receivable, transportation, HR, quality records, etc.
It has a huge proprietary relational database that allows connections across multiple functions, locations, and divisions. Basically, every piece of data that could possibly be related to other types, is interconnected.
It's often set up for FDI. (Financial data interchange.) IOW, bills can be automatically paid, invoices can receive funds directly, electronically.
Every module turned on cost big bucks.
When the company I worked for went to SAP, it was a $35 million dollar project. 10 years later, when the Quality Module was turned on, they paid $4 million, which was 50% of list!
It's designed to be browser based, but most integrators use a custom browser, instead of using Chrome or Firefox, or other.
It takes significant training just for users. And, after QA testing is complete, Superusers are trained to actually be around other workers overseeing & providing assistance for several weeks.
There are other big products like this, but SAP is VERY broadly used, nearly everywhere in the world.
I don't miss extracting data from it.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:07 AM

34. Awesome, isn't TikTok great!?

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Response to BradBo (Reply #34)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:09 AM

37. And Twitter. Nt

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:19 AM

42. She got what she deserved

 

Coughing on people in public to make a political statement along with violating a mask mandate deserves this kind of outing. I can't fathom how low we have come to where seemingly normal people behave this way because of political tribalism. Disgusting.

Hope this starts to serve as a warning for others that engage in this kind of behavior but I kind of doubt it... dystopian.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:25 AM

44. isn't this assault

with intent to murder?

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Response to llashram (Reply #44)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:27 AM

46. We didn't see the post script

but I hope thecops were called.

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Response to llashram (Reply #44)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:38 AM

52. Try it in TX with open carry no license required. One gun carrier feeling threaten... self defense!

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:33 AM

47. Now she has the freedom of not getting up to go to work.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #47)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:37 PM

59. Ha ha 😄

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:34 AM

48. And I would guess

That this morning instead of having had some sort of realization that this really is a serious issue and people do take it very seriouslyÖ hence her new found station in life that instead of having the epiphany she is just howling mad at the world and the libs for doing this to her over a make believe virusÖ

Maybe, hopefully I am wrong by 180į but I doubt it.

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Response to Snackshack (Reply #48)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 09:48 AM

80. yes, and some right-wing nut will probably hire her nt

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 11:40 AM

55. How will she ever afford her asthma treatments



cough cough, hack!

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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #55)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 02:20 PM

69. Might think the unemployed

should just bootstrap it.

She's my age (saw fast facts you need to know) and acting like that is shameful

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 05:35 PM

74. She needs to be charged and arrested. nt

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:08 PM

76. I disagree with her assessment she is not sick

ugh

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:39 PM

78. Good.

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