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exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:04 AM Sep 2021

This is how Covid kills as well

One of my daughter's best friend's dad just passed away from injuries he received in a fall from a ladder. It took 3 days to get him the right medical care because of the backlog of Covid cases.

My daughter is pretty broken up about it.

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This is how Covid kills as well (Original Post) exboyfil Sep 2021 OP
It kills people who don't even have it. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #1
Our hospitals are completely swamped with Covidiots leftieNanner Sep 2021 #2
Our good friend's 30 year old daughter has breast cancer malaise Sep 2021 #3
Even Urgent Care here is swamped... Lars39 Sep 2021 #4
I have a friend who lives in NC. Her adult daughter was Grammy23 Sep 2021 #5
tell her to go to a blue state. mopinko Sep 2021 #6
Exactly! SoCalDavidS Sep 2021 #8
and pay out of pocket for out of network treatment IbogaProject Sep 2021 #20
Please tell her to go to another state wryter2000 Sep 2021 #17
A close friend of mine died in December. bluesbassman Sep 2021 #7
Can the family sue Greg Abbott? wryter2000 Sep 2021 #18
Good question. bluesbassman Sep 2021 #21
Willfully ubvaxed should not be allowed to break healthcare system SheltieLover Sep 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Sep 2021 #10
My mother can't get pain relieving surgery because of them. Mariana Sep 2021 #11
We have Rebl2 Sep 2021 #12
You're not the only one, Rebl2. calimary Sep 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Bear Creek Sep 2021 #13
They keep saying the US doesn't ration health care IronLionZion Sep 2021 #15
Right Wingers, trumpers, MAGAs and Covidiots got the death panels by their own work irisblue Sep 2021 #23
Yet they call themselves "pro-life" nt IronLionZion Sep 2021 #24
They say Rebl2 Sep 2021 #25
Wow, remember when we all were wearing masks and locking down Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #16
2 years into 2 weeks to flatten the curve IronLionZion Sep 2021 #26
True story about a relative in northern VA in February nitpicker Sep 2021 #19
We should have put microchips or tags in the vaccines. IbogaProject Sep 2021 #22

Ocelot II

(115,659 posts)
1. It kills people who don't even have it.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:11 AM
Sep 2021

It kills people who can't get medical care because the people who do have it are taking up all the hospital beds. And too many of those people got it because they wouldn't wear masks or get vaccinated. So who is the real killer?

leftieNanner

(15,079 posts)
2. Our hospitals are completely swamped with Covidiots
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:20 AM
Sep 2021

The county is only 50% vaccinated. Between the MAGAs and the anti-vax hippies, we are in bad shape.

I was scheduled for surgery in early August but it was cancelled because it's considered "elective". My husband is supposed to get a hip replacement in October, but who knows if that will happen.

If you get in a car accident or have a heart attack or stroke, you are SOL.

Really pisses me off.

malaise

(268,873 posts)
3. Our good friend's 30 year old daughter has breast cancer
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:22 AM
Sep 2021

but it is not considered an emergency so she cannot have surgery now - lots of folks without Covid are dying because of Covid

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
4. Even Urgent Care here is swamped...
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:24 AM
Sep 2021

Tried going thru Dr’s office to get seen quicker, closest appointment was a week and a half with a walk-in clinic.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
5. I have a friend who lives in NC. Her adult daughter was
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:29 AM
Sep 2021

Recently diagnosed with a treatable form of lung cancer. One spot in her lower lung. She has been on a drug to shrink the tumor and then was supposed to have surgery to remove the remaining tumor. The tumor has shrunk, as they hoped. The surgery has not taken place because there is no space in the hospitals to get it done.

Imagine knowing you have a cancer that can’t be removed because there is no space for you to be admitted. As a cancer survivor myself, this is just appalling and unacceptable. There will be other horror stories like this to come out of the Covid crisis. 😔

mopinko

(70,070 posts)
6. tell her to go to a blue state.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:31 AM
Sep 2021

i have no doubt she could get care in chicago. we're doing pretty well.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
8. Exactly!
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:34 AM
Sep 2021

Tell her to go to a less fucked up state, where they actually have hospital beds and can treat people other than the unvaccinated assholes, who apparently get priority because they were/are assholes.

IbogaProject

(2,800 posts)
20. and pay out of pocket for out of network treatment
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:05 PM
Sep 2021

Pay out of pocket for out of network treatment then. I hate this myopic country. Universal health, helps everyone, by lowering the demand for emergency services.

bluesbassman

(19,369 posts)
7. A close friend of mine died in December.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:33 AM
Sep 2021

Had a heat attack on Christmas morning. They were at a vacation house about an hour and a half from Dallas and the regional hospital had no real cardiac unit. There were no beds available in Dallas or Ft. Worth due to the spike in Covid cases at the time, so he sat in that regional for three days until a cardiologist could get there. By that time it was too late for the procedure that could have saved him.

So no, he didn’t die from Covid, but he died because of Covid. A distinction without a difference as far as I’m concerned, and one of the reasons anti-vaxxers and mask deniers can all go to hell.

bluesbassman

(19,369 posts)
21. Good question.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:06 PM
Sep 2021

His wife was devastated and she’s not the litigious sort, but you’ve given me an idea!

Considering the specious way the Texas GOP crafted the abortion law and basically gave standing to everybody to sue individuals for having a medical procedure that in no way affects them, they’ve opened the door allowing even the remotest level of connection to be considered “standing”. Now, seeing as how this man was not only my friend, but was also a business partner (drummer in my band), I’d say I have way more standing to sue Abbott than some anonymous tipster does!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. Willfully ubvaxed should not be allowed to break healthcare system
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:41 AM
Sep 2021


Hugs to your daughter & her friend. 💗💗💗

Response to exboyfil (Original post)

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
11. My mother can't get pain relieving surgery because of them.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 11:51 AM
Sep 2021

It's not endangering her life, fortunately, but she's been in debilitating pain for months. Simple outpatient surgery will solve the problem completely, the neurosurgeon says, but she can't get it done. This is in Florida, so there's no end in sight.

Rebl2

(13,484 posts)
12. We have
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:21 PM
Sep 2021

had a couple of stories in our local news recently where someone has died because no room at hospitals because they are overwhelmed with Covid patients and have no room for non Covid patients.
Need to set up MASH units to treat unvaccinated Covid patients. Bring in military reserves to treat them in tents somewhere-maybe military bases. I am DONE with these people who won’t get vaccinated.

calimary

(81,192 posts)
14. You're not the only one, Rebl2.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:37 PM
Sep 2021

I think if you didn’t get vaccinated and got COVID, you should go to some tented “MASH”-type unit. Leave those precious hospital beds for the deserving.

Response to exboyfil (Original post)

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
15. They keep saying the US doesn't ration health care
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:39 PM
Sep 2021

when we can all see that's a blatant lie. People shouldn't have to die preventable deaths simply from waiting for a hospital spot to open up. The system is failing.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
16. Wow, remember when we all were wearing masks and locking down
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 12:45 PM
Sep 2021

to flatten the curve?

Look at those curves now.....they look more like ocean waves during a Tsunami.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
19. True story about a relative in northern VA in February
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:03 PM
Sep 2021

Tripped and broke her leg.

The ambulance finally arrived and took her to the hospital.

When I caught up, I had to wait outside until they finally put her into an ER "room".

There were only a few gurneys in the hallways then, but an hour-plus later the ER hallways were packed.

The hospital had to call in someone affiliated with the hospital to operate the next day.

IbogaProject

(2,800 posts)
22. We should have put microchips or tags in the vaccines.
Sat Sep 4, 2021, 01:08 PM
Sep 2021

I guess we should have put microchips or tags in the vaccines. How can we sort out vaxed and or reasonably exempt from the unvaxed but healthy enough to get the shot but refused?

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