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(5,153 posts)Stack it up!
BlueGreenLady
(2,824 posts)VarryOn
(2,343 posts)Losing issue.
When Democrats quieted down about it last year, not even all were on board.
lees1975
(3,845 posts)recognizing that there are two seats there stolen by the GOP, Biden needs to appoint at least three.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). . . but I think it is important to point out that if Democrats DON'T start taking some drastic measures as expanding the Court and eliminating the filibuster, many voters are going to start running out of patience with excuses for not taking action!
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)We have been on the slippery slope to fascism since that one guy from Texas was appointed president. After that they thought they could get away with anything and mostly did.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)and know they are losing Texas. That is why they are enacting all of these crazy laws. We must persevere. We got two Democrats elected to the Senate from Georgia we can make Texas blue again.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)peppertree
(21,624 posts)As much as we need it right now, this idea doesn't stand a chance as long as Manchini and Sinema refuse to be onboard.
scipan
(2,341 posts)to a little extortion of Manchin and Sinema. They must have some skeletons in their closets. Doing a bad thing for an extremely good outcome...our democracy is in jeopardy if voting rights aren't passed, especially those state laws that allow the legislatures to take over a free and fair election.
Mary in S. Carolina
(1,364 posts)it is now. Women are are going to rise up.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)In 18 months, whatever good is passed will be tossed out.
Mary in S. Carolina
(1,364 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Hello susan? Ain't heard much from her on todays hellhole.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)We need this fixed NOW!!!!
NOW!!!!!!!!
d_r
(6,907 posts)in making PR and DC states
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)BootinUp
(47,141 posts)must be thrown at the right time.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)ecstatic
(32,685 posts)Any one of them could die at any moment. Meanwhile our right to vote (and have it count) and women's rights are circling the drain.
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)relevant facts tonight. Maybe later
Takket
(21,560 posts)There is no way in hell court expansion will ever happen. manchin and sinema will have none of it, and others too i think.
I believe Biden still has a commission "looking into it" but it won't go anywhere.
if women want to protect their rights they are going to need to give us more power in the Senate. That's the message for 2022.
Fullduplexxx
(7,857 posts)Celerity
(43,315 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)that they would think it is not time to fix the republican infected SC?
If we don't do that and reinstate the Voting Rights Act in the next months, we have lost all. Nothing this administration does will matter, because it will all go away in 18 months.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)Skittles
(153,149 posts)STAY AND FIGHT
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)I have young kids. Why should they be subjected to this fight? The U.S. is increasingly becoming a dangerous place for them and increasingly becoming a place not suitable to raise my kids in.
Skittles
(153,149 posts)that's typically the way it works anyways
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)It is a decision that we all have to make for our own families. I have a daughter who is 14. Roe is falling right before our eyes. I have a son who has basically only known a country run by Trump and the hate he brought with him that persists into a time where a man ending a 20 year war is vilified. I watch how these things are having a real effect on their childhoods versus mine. And yeah, I have to ask the question. Is it fair to them to be raised in this environment simply because they were born in a fucked up time?
It is a massive and heart wrenching decision and frankly your response is insulting. The glibness is offensive. It would be beyond selfish for me to deny them a childhood and a better upbringing. And it isnt an easy decision to come to. Nor did I say that I have come to that decision fully. I served in the military (and no I am not asking for military fawning) because I believe in this country. But that was before becoming a parent.
Skittles
(153,149 posts)I knew that when I served in the military
over and OUT
Marius25
(3,213 posts)I don't have family connections to a place like Ireland.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)Could he expand ethics rules to include the Supremes?
Can he mandate retirement age? In guessing not.
We should be able to justify expansion of the court by population increases alone.
There should be only 1 judge for every regional (circuit?) court unless a regional court is small and so one judge might take 2.
If any of this has to go through Congress the republicans will not allow it!
Arrghh!
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)edhopper
(33,570 posts)But it will never happen.
We will never have the votes to do it.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)The trick will be getting it done.....but we should because of Mitch McConnells shenanigans concerning confirming Supremes, he effectively stole 2 seats.....and of course a man who had no business being President getting 3 Justices on there.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Even if one of them has to be Manchin.
kyburbonkid
(251 posts)The tyranny of the minority needs to stop... Just add more to weaken the corrupted logic and influence of the feeble ones.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)We screwed up, despite multiple people warning us of the repercussions of our apathy, and foolishness. The potential decimation of the SC was front and center back then, even if it fell on too many deaf ears. Now we're reaping what we sowed, as we were warned we would.
There's not an easy fix here, sadly. Not that I don't wish there was. We broke it and the only way to fix it is by getting out there and voting for the most electable Democrats on every ticket. I doubt we will, we're way too salty for serious pragmatism, but that's how we work to repair this damage down the road. There's no quick triage of our self inflicted wounds. There will be no immediate expansion of the SC. There is no quick fix here, the numbers do not exist for such.
We lost in the 2020 census, too. Gerrymandering will be brutal, and some will be overturned, but not as much as previously due to the courts. Republicans who didn't even like Trump knew this when they voted for him.
budkin
(6,699 posts)You think Manchin and Sinema would agree to that?
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)Playing checkers while the GOP has been playing by a set of rules that they bend to fit the need of the day.
If we don't balance the court now, it is highly likely; we won't get a chance ever to bring it back into equilibrium.
moondust
(19,972 posts)Time to teach him a good hard lesson for his crooked, unAmerican behavior.
ColinC
(8,289 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)I asked my son who has a bachelors in history. Does it ever work out when the minority rules the majority, he thought about it and said no.
Mr. Evil
(2,839 posts)They've passed highly restrictive voter suppression laws in several states.
They've passed that horrific anti-abortion law in Texas (with other states soon to follow).
They revel in hypocrisy.
They pass laws overnight to repress safety measures during a deadly pandemic.
They break laws with impunity and flaunt their corruption.
The time has come for all of us to not shame them for they have none but, to shame their benefactors. All the corporations that contribute to these depraved people must be shamed. They must be boycotted relentlessly. Divest from them (if by chance you are invested in them). The time has come to get ruthless with these monsters. If we don't then next year when they decide that they've won all the elections, regardless of the actual vote counts, we will be seriously fucked.
The SCOTUS must be expanded!
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Maybe when the true consequences of not voting or voting against ones best interests become real, people will wake up.
How many SC justices are enough? When cases are decided by quorum?
Hate to say it, but with Kavanaugh and Barrett especially Barrett Roes days may be numbered.
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)ecstatic
(32,685 posts)manchin and sinema are complicit. They won't even vote to protect basic voting rights in this country. Do you think they give a shit about rightwing Supreme Court rulings?
calimary
(81,220 posts)HAB911
(8,880 posts)Prichards115
(37 posts)add 4 seats
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)I think I've heard some ideas that would make it better without increasing the size, but I don't recall what they were.
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)What makes anyone think we can get political power behind remaking our judiciary?