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Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:19 PM

Maybe a dumb question here BUT

Could a texas resident flee to another state to get a LEGAL abortion?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:20 PM

1. No need to "flee"

Yes - of course. Texas law doesn't extend beyond the state border.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:21 PM

3. Good to know

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:47 PM

16. A Texas resident who is deemed an "enabler" might have a problem.

They and their assets are subject to the law and process of the Texas courts.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:21 PM

2. If they had the $$ and resources to do so. Though I'd suspect some would try to take them to court

afterward. They don't have to succeed in these cases because it is the deterrent effect and the intimidation they seek. Knowing that the victim can't even recoup legal fees from the accuser--even if the case does not succeed-- is a big damned deal.


it is an "I point my finger, you lose." "I have no case against you, you still lose $$ in legal fees" "I bring a frivolous case, you can't do anything because the law prevents you suing for your own legal fees." So, regardless, you loose.

We can only hope that some prominent RWers get caught up in this

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:21 PM

4. Of course. The problem is that traveling somewhere else is much more difficult for poor women.

Even before Roe v. Wade, rich women were always able to get abortions no matter where they lived by traveling to a place where they were legal. Another complicating factor is that if someone in Texas helped them travel they could be sued under this ridiculous law. But the TX courts wouldn't have jurisdiction over someone who assisted who wasn't in TX.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:45 PM

15. Long hike, especially if Louisiana follows suit

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:22 PM

5. Yes, which is why it's vital to donate to abortion funds.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:26 PM

7. YES! Fully agree!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:25 PM

6. The wealthy will do it very easily . The middle class will use a credit card and pay to go

Itís the poor who canít and whoís life will be impacted the most imo

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:26 PM

8. Depends on if they have the time and resources to travel...

... can they take time off from work? can they leave their family alone? do they drive? do they have an automobile? can they afford gas? can they afford an overnight hotel if needed? do they have the time to make all the arrangements?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:28 PM

9. Heading for the border in Texas can be a lot more time-consuming than

heading for the border in Delaware.

Also, once you get to the border, what's on the other side?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:32 PM

10. I believe the problem extends to anyone who advises the person to seek an out of state abortion

or offers transportation and so forth.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:32 PM

11. Kick

Abortion providers and abortion rights advocates say the law will disproportionately impact low-income patients who already often struggle to access health care. The average distance a Texas patient will have to travel to obtain an abortion will now rise from 12 to 248 miles, a 20-fold increase, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a research group that supports abortion rights.

Abortion clinics in the state say they plan to comply with the law, but providers often operate on thin margins and these changes could force many to close their doors. They can now only provide abortions for people up to six weeks of pregnancy, which will dramatically limit their services and patient volume. Abortion funds, which help patients afford and otherwise access the procedure, could also face prosecution under the law, so may have to limit their work helping patients pay clinics.

Clinics also need to hire lawyers to defend their physicians, nurses and other staff members from the lawsuits they expect to face. If they lose a lawsuit, they not only have to pay damages and their opponentís legal fees, but the state can shut the clinic down. And if they win, the law prevents clinics and others accused of helping facilitate an abortion from recovering their own legal fees.

The threat of clinic closures is not theoretical in Texas. In 2013 when the state passed its HB 2 law, which required all abortion providers to have admitting privileges at local hospitals and clinics to be equipped with hospital-level surgical centers, the state lost almost half its abortion providers. Even after the Supreme Court ruled that law unconstitutional in 2016, few ever reopened.

https://time.com/6093905/texas-abortion-ban-abortion-rights/

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:32 PM

12. Pills on line.

Up to 10 weeks from missed period. Da google.

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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:37 PM

13. This STUPID BILL could

Put the Kabash to texas delivery of these pills? ( just thinking)

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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:40 PM

14. Safe bet they'll all stop sending them to TX because they don't want to be sued (nt)

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