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Mon Aug 30, 2021, 08:31 AM

New Zealand Reports First Death Linked to Pfizer Vaccine

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-30/new-zealand-reports-first-death-linked-to-pfizer-covid-vaccine
By Matthew Brockett
August 29, 2021

New Zealand health authorities reported what they believe to be the countryís first death linked to the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine.

A woman died from myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle wall, following her Pfizer vaccination, New Zealandís Covid-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board said in an emailed statement on Monday. It said myocarditis is known to be a rare side effect of the Pfizer vaccine.

related: https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/clinicians-reminded-be-aware-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-symptoms

"Clinicians reminded to be aware of myocarditis and pericarditis symptoms

Media release
30 August 2021

The COVID-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board (CV-ISMB) has advised the Ministry of Health to ensure that healthcare professionals and consumers remain vigilant and are aware of the signs of myocarditis and pericarditis. This advice follows the CV-ISMB's review of the death of a woman following her Comirnaty Pfizer COVID-19 vaccination.

The CV-ISMB extends their sympathies to the womanís family and friends during this difficult time and thanks the family for their assistance with this investigation.

The CV-ISMB has considered that the womanís death was due to myocarditis, which is known to be a rare side effect of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.

The case has been referred to the Coroner and the cause of death has not yet been determined. The CV-ISMB considered that the myocarditis was probably due to vaccination. The CV-ISMB noted that there were other medical issues occurring at the same time which may have influenced the outcome following vaccination.

Further details cannot be released while the Coroner investigates.

In New Zealand, adverse events following vaccinations are reported to the Centre for Adverse Reactions Monitoring (CARM). All cases with a fatal outcome are referred to the CV-ISMB for review. CARM provides as much information on the case as possible for the clinical experts on the CV-ISMB to help them in their consideration of whether there was a link to vaccination."

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Reply New Zealand Reports First Death Linked to Pfizer Vaccine (Original post)
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 OP
marybourg Aug 30 #1
obamanut2012 Aug 30 #2
PA Democrat Aug 30 #3
Ohio Joe Aug 30 #7
uponit7771 Aug 30 #4
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 #10
ornotna Aug 30 #11
Demsrule86 Aug 30 #18
obamanut2012 Aug 30 #20
Demsrule86 Aug 30 #36
obamanut2012 Aug 30 #13
Demsrule86 Aug 30 #16
Blues Heron Aug 30 #5
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 #8
Mariana Aug 30 #38
Treefrog Aug 30 #6
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 #9
Demsrule86 Aug 30 #17
NickB79 Aug 30 #12
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 #14
kentuck Aug 30 #19
obamanut2012 Aug 30 #21
NickB79 Aug 30 #23
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 #24
NickB79 Aug 30 #25
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 #26
NickB79 Aug 30 #28
retread Aug 30 #31
radicalleft Aug 30 #15
FrankBooth Aug 30 #22
blogslug Aug 30 #27
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 #29
LanternWaste Aug 30 #30
BradAllison Aug 30 #37
Celerity Aug 30 #32
Elessar Zappa Aug 30 #33
MisterNiceKitty Aug 30 #34
edhopper Aug 30 #35
dilby Aug 30 #39

Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 08:46 AM

1. The headline writer seems to have already

determined that there IS a link.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 08:59 AM

2. I saw the header and guessed it would be you!

Happy Monday!

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:23 AM

3. +1

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:59 AM

7. +1

I really hate anti-vax stupidity.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:26 AM

4. 1 death ...MAYBE .... attributed to vaccine

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:31 AM

10. yes one death which I'm sure matters a whole lot to the late woman's family

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:34 AM

11. And you

And your agenda.

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Response to ornotna (Reply #11)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:39 AM

18. And let's not forget this one...Pfizer should not be approved?

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:43 AM

20. ooooo i missed that one

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #20)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:36 PM

36. It is so obvious.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:58 AM

13. lolz

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:29 AM

16. Seriously, Anti-Vax are you?

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:41 AM

5. maybe read your own article?

"The case has been referred to the Coroner and the cause of death has not yet been determined."

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Response to Blues Heron (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:23 AM

8. meaning they are seeing a link preliminarily

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:53 AM

6. I'd really like more details.

Had she had both jabs? How long ago? How old was she? Was she in good health otherwise?

So many questions.

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Response to Treefrog (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:23 AM

9. I hope full details should be coming soon considering the high degree

of public interest in this issue.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:30 AM

17. I don't give a damn...just more nonsense.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:42 AM

12. Getting the vaccine is FAR safer than getting Covid

And given how transmissible Delta is, everyone will be exposed eventually.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-increases-risk-of-heart-inflammation-and-blood-clots-more-than-the-vaccines-studies-find/

The study found the mRNA vaccines did increase risk of myocarditis, with about 1 to 5 events per 100,000 persons. However, the presence of COVID-19 increased that risk even more, with 11 events per 100,000 persons.


Unfortunately, most people suck at gauging relative risk in daily life. Vaccines are no different.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:06 AM

14. This is the first paragraph of the press release issued today by a NZ Health authority

The COVID-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board (CV-ISMB) has advised the Ministry of Health to ensure that healthcare professionals and consumers remain vigilant and are aware of the signs of myocarditis and pericarditis. This advice follows the CV-ISMB's review of the death of a woman following her Comirnaty Pfizer COVID-19 vaccination.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:42 AM

19. She died after the booster shot?

Is that the "Comirnaty"?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #19)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:44 AM

21. No, that is the name of the Pfizer CV19 vax

Moderna's is technically Spikevax.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 12:21 PM

23. And? Your response didn't add anything to the conversation

No one has ever said the risk of death from vaccines was 0.00%

If her death was from a vaccine reaction, it literally changes nothing. Your risk of death is still twice as high without the vaccine. Everyone should still get their vaccine. Because Delta will find you eventually.

Like I said, people really suck at gauging risk.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 12:57 PM

24. Now you know it's not theoretical - it's a practical risk

I would follow the instructions in the NZ press release and contact my health care provider.

They can take it from there.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #24)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 01:02 PM

25. It's always been a practical risk. People died from the Astra Zenica vaccine too

Months ago. And yet doctors still recommend to get your shot.

Hell, kids died from the polio vaccine 70 yr ago. We still recommend that as well.

Like I said, nothing changes. Vaccines save millions of lives.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 01:05 PM

26. I have taken many vaccines in my life and never gotten sick

much less ill enough to be hospitalized.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 01:12 PM

28. Exactly! The risk is THAT LOW!

And as I posted earlier, the risk of myocardia with mRNA vaccines is around 5 cases per 100,000. And that's not ever deaths, just inflammation. Deaths are around 1 in 500,000 to 1 in a million. This is consistent with many other vaccines we've been using for decades, which is why you've never had an adverse vaccination reaction. And that's why everyone should get their COVID vaccine.

People suck at gauging risk.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:04 PM

31. Care to provide a list?

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:26 AM

15. Boner pills can cause death too...

What's your point?

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 12:01 PM

22. There are no guarantees with any medicine

But one guaranteed truth: Anti-vaxxers are ignorant fools.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 01:09 PM

27. Fine, don't get the vaccine.

I hope the people around you remain safe.

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Response to blogslug (Reply #27)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 01:45 PM

29. I hope the same for you too

And if this post is too much for you just ignore it.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #29)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 01:49 PM

30. What leads you to think your post is "too much" for anyone?

Criticism of your methods and narrative certainly doesn't imply as much, so what leads you assert as much?

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #29)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:55 PM

37. Have you gotten the vaccine? n/m

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:27 PM

32. and today's special is............FUD ala Kitty

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:28 PM

33. We see you.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #33)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:30 PM

34. I see you too

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 03:40 PM

35. One possible death out of

3 million vaccinations.
Too much of a risk for you?
Do you think there is less risk with COVID?
Incase you were wondering, the death rate in the US for people with COVID is almost 2%.

So is two out of hundred deaths better than 1 out of 3 million?

Such a quandary.

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Response to MisterNiceKitty (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:40 PM

39. When Hospitals begin denying healthcare to COVID19 patients because they are full of....

People suffering from the Pfizer vaccine I will start to worry about their effects. Till then, not so much.

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