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Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:26 AM

A list of things that dont actually exist but are alive and well thanks to cons...

I will start, please add on:

1. Voter ID being legal

2. Cancel Culture (why is accountability called something else?)

3. Violence by BLM

4. Antifa (was gonna say violence by Antifa, but there is no such organization in the first place)

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Reply A list of things that dont actually exist but are alive and well thanks to cons... (Original post)
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 OP
MiHale Jul 29 #1
Ohioboy Jul 29 #2
Greybnk48 Jul 29 #6
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #11
Kota Jul 29 #3
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #12
sheshe2 Jul 29 #4
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #14
Sympthsical Jul 29 #5
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #15
left-of-center2012 Jul 29 #20
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #23
left-of-center2012 Jul 29 #24
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #25
left-of-center2012 Jul 29 #34
Sympthsical Jul 29 #37
Sympthsical Jul 29 #35
Kingofalldems Jul 29 #19
Sympthsical Jul 29 #36
Diamond_Dog Jul 29 #7
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #31
PufPuf23 Jul 29 #8
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #30
spanone Jul 29 #9
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #29
SKKY Jul 29 #10
Towlie Jul 29 #13
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #16
sheshe2 Jul 29 #17
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #18
sheshe2 Jul 29 #32
sheshe2 Jul 29 #33
lame54 Jul 29 #21
Brother Buzz Jul 29 #22
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #28
KentuckyWoman Jul 29 #26
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #27
UnderThisLaw Jul 29 #38
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #39
displacedtexan Jul 29 #40
Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #41

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:28 AM

1. Antifa

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:36 AM

2. Partial Birth Abortion

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:54 AM

6. Think tank BS, came up with "partial birth abortion"

to make it sound gruesome. Our Aunt Faye had that procedure done in the 50's as an emergency to save her life. She was delivering her baby and he or she became lodged in the birth canal, causing an emergency situation. The baby would have been stillborn or died shortly after birth since it had severe hydrocephaly (water head, to put it crudely).

Today, with ultrasonography, this would have been known in advance and not have been an emergency.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:13 PM

11. Good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:40 AM

3. widespread voter fraud.

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Response to Kota (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:13 PM

12. Good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:51 AM

4. COVID is a hoax.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:14 PM

14. Good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:51 AM

5. What is with this Orwellian lie about Antifa here?

I see it all the time.

"There is no Antifa."

As someone who lives in the Bay Area and, in particular, worked around Berkeley and Oakland, I knew about Antifa before it was ever a gleam in the Internet's eye. Antifa, By Any Means Necessary, Black Bloc, etc. Fairly radical Leftist outfits that have an affinity for property damage (and if you don't believe me, take a glance at downtown Oakland at any point in the last ten years, or Berkeley every now and again).

They exist. They advertise themselves. They've been around for ages. They intermix and intermingle quite a bit, so sometimes you're not sure who you're dealing with.

No, they're not centralized or really any kind of official organization like BLM became.

But the whole, "They don't exist!" is such a bizarre denial of reality to me. Why do people do this?

It's like saying Occupy Wall Street never existed because they didn't have a recognizable leader or serious incorporated organization.

Groups like Antifa exist. They have forever. It's just that the Right has recently seized upon them as the cause of all things unholy.

"Antifa doesn't exist." God. So creepy. Such a blatant untruth that gets rotely repeated. It gives me the jeebies to see it. I hope people are just saying that out of ignorance.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:15 PM

15. decentralized idea...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths-about-antifa/2020/09/11/527071ac-f37b-11ea-bc45-e5d48ab44b9f_story.html

If they are an actual physical group like the green party or the dnc, then do you have their website?

I would love to join the organization, so please direct me to the national headquarters.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:31 PM

20. Maybe you missed this sentence?

"No, they're not centralized or really any kind of official organization like BLM became."

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:41 PM

23. Antifa as an organization has been blamed for violence. Show me where they are, who they are

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:44 PM

24. Have you tried Google ?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:44 PM

25. Show me where they are please.

And I will make you a deal, show me where they are so I can join them or ATLEAST communicate with them, and I will remove them from the list.

There is a reason this is VERY important.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:24 PM

34. I have no interest one way or the other

Not doing your research for you.

Bye

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:56 PM

37. I could ask my tenant, I suppose

He's a very radical Leftist, identifies as Antifa and other things. His friends do, too. They go to meetings about various organizing things. I have no idea. He tries to tell me sometimes when we're both in the kitchen, but I steer around it. I'm pretty Lefty, but I am nowhere close to as radical as him or his friends. But they're much younger than I. As it is, he gave me some decent books about the Philippine revolution I've been gradually working through.

I don't get this resistance to obvious facts. It's like watching someone deny the sky is blue.

It's a decentralized movement, with members who organize.

Do you think those protests fall out of a clear blue sky?

I watched them organize the Berkeley protest a few years back. It was supposed to be some Trumpy demonstration in MLK Park. Local Antifa organized to counter-protest. Then there was a riot/fight. Antifa ended up retreating to the university.

It was a whole thing.

Here's a WaPo article about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:41 PM

35. You literally just ignored what I said

I said they're a decentralized group. There's no one national Antifa group. But to say they don't exist in the same way other movements like Occupy Wall Street have is weird.

Where was the Occupy HQ?

Or did the Occupy movement not exist either?

Do you see what I mean?

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:27 PM

19. So you're saying DU is Orwellian?

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:42 PM

36. I'm saying stating an obvious lie repeatedly despite all facts to the contrary is Orwellian

Antifa exists. I've seen people say "Antifa doesn't exist," so many times that it's worrisome.

Ideology shouldn't be papering over objective reality.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 11:59 AM

7. Welfare queens

a la Ronnie Reagan

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Response to Diamond_Dog (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:02 PM

31. Good one REALLY good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:02 PM

8. Billionaires that need Public Assistance. nt

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:01 PM

30. Good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:04 PM

9. republicons supporting police

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Response to spanone (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:01 PM

29. Good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:05 PM

10. Every time a Republican friend, family member, or co-worker mentions "cancel culture"...

...I just say, "Oh, you mean free-market capitalism"? Usually shuts them up.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:13 PM

13. The absolute, God-given right to spread deadly disease.

 

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Response to Towlie (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:15 PM

16. Good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:21 PM

17. The Republican Party

The party of family values and fiscal discipline.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:22 PM

18. That is an EXCELLENT addition

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:04 PM

32. Why, thank you.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:04 PM

33. Why, thank you.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:35 PM

21. 2 weeks to a greater health plan

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:38 PM

22. America is a Christian Nation

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:00 PM

28. really good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 12:56 PM

26. Jewish space lasers.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:00 PM

27. Good one

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 02:21 PM

38. Child sex rings being run out of pizzeria basements

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Response to UnderThisLaw (Reply #38)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 02:26 PM

39. boy talk about a GOOD ONE

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 02:50 PM

40. Compassionate Conservatives

As if!

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #40)

Thu Jul 29, 2021, 02:51 PM

41. Good one, I got another one "moral majority"

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