Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:06 PM

Nevilledog (48,304 posts)

WTF?!? Biden opposes abandoning the filibuster to pass federal voting rights legislation...

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Steven Mazie
@stevenmazie
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Jul 21, 2021
Amazing.

Biden opposes abandoning the filibuster to pass federal voting rights legislation b/c:
(1) he wants to bring the country together;
(2) he thinks everyone will come out and vote no matter how suppressive state voting laws are

Sawyer Hackett
@SawyerHackett
This answer from Biden on the filibuster just doesn’t make sense.

Republicans aren’t going to wake up and “know better” than suppressing the vote. The filibuster encourages them to obstruct and our reluctance to end it emboldens them to do worse.
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Steven Mazie
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In sum, he values an old senate debating rule more highly than voting rights protections.
8:02 PM · Jul 21, 2021 from Brooklyn, NY

I.....I........I don't understand.

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WTF?!? Biden opposes abandoning the filibuster to pass federal voting rights legislation... (Original post)	Nevilledog	Jul 2021	OP
Everyone Thinks Manchin & Sinema Are The Only Ones	SoCalDavidS	Jul 2021	#1
It's quite possible he knows what he's doing. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt	Walleye	Jul 2021	#2
I think it is quite possible that he wants an exception, without breaking the filibuster.	Bev54	Jul 2021	#3
Sometimes Biden comes across in a bad way to me.	triron	Jul 2021	#4
yup	Skittles	Jul 2021	#5
I doubt he supports another exception. Hell, Sinema wants to reverse the 2 now and go to 60 votes	Celerity	Jul 2021	#7
It is scary to hear Dems still promoting fantasy "bipartisan" ideas.	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#35
hardly surprising, he has said this for ages	Celerity	Jul 2021	#6
Folks are not listening between the lines. He doesn't want to blow up the big infrastructure stuff.	joetheman	Jul 2021	#8
The bi-partisan smaller one that the Rethugs are now playing 'pull the football' games with? Or the	Celerity	Jul 2021	#11
If Biden is talking about going back to a talking filibuster, Manchin opposes that (and Sinema, and	Celerity	Jul 2021	#9
That's from April....this is from June 16	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#18
That has nothing to do with the talking filibuster nor Sinema or Feinstein	Celerity	Jul 2021	#19
Not specifically, no, however you quoted a piece headlined	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#23
Manchin is not the only one opposed. Sinema is even more hardcore.	Celerity	Jul 2021	#24
I honestly believe that Sinema will fall in line once Manchin agrees (iirc she signed up to	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#25
Did you miss the thread you're posting on?	FBaggins	Jul 2021	#29
No I didn't miss anything. I'd have no doubt he was channelling Manchin.	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#39
No... Manchin favors it.	FBaggins	Jul 2021	#21
Unacceptable.	Mike Niendorff	Jul 2021	#10
Dems have been asleep at the wheel on this issue	radius777	Jul 2021	#12
+1, ... because too many don't believe it'll affect elections but we see the effects in polling !!!	uponit7771	Jul 2021	#14
and Biden says people will vote anyway,	radius777	Jul 2021	#15
+1, I they have it objectively wrong; making it harder to vote them peephole won't vote !!!	uponit7771	Jul 2021	#20
Bottom line, should voting rights pass he isn't NOT going to sign it. Plus it's probably politically	PortTack	Jul 2021	#13
He didn't say that.	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#17
Wow, that's leadership. "Isn't going to not sign it..."	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#36
I do understand. He's not speaking in isolation, and I bet if he had	OnDoutside	Jul 2021	#16
Happened to catch this question and answer on the fillibuster	Deminpenn	Jul 2021	#22
Oh, for Pete's sake. Stop it	NurseJackie	Jul 2021	#26
+1	betsuni	Jul 2021	#27
Maybe he's hoping for a better playing field after the mid-terms	Mysterian	Jul 2021	#28
It'll be too late after the mid-terms.	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#37
Democrats have the ball, second down and 3 at the Republican 20 yardline.	Roisin Ni Fiachra	Jul 2021	#30
+1, problem is Manchin isn't the ONLY person wanting to keep the filibuster he's just the face of it	uponit7771	Jul 2021	#32
Gee, when it was just Manchin and Sinema to vilify, we were being told to "get tough with them"...	brooklynite	Jul 2021	#31
I.....I........I don't understand.	Ferrets are Cool	Jul 2021	#33
Republicans are suppressing voting rights	aocommunalpunch	Jul 2021	#34
He also said that he thinks the Senate should go back to an actual filibuster	mcar	Jul 2021	#38

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Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:11 PM

SoCalDavidS (9,998 posts)

1. Everyone Thinks Manchin & Sinema Are The Only Ones

I'm not at all surprised. And News Flash! There are at least a few other Senators against eliminating it, who are saying nothing, and letting the aforementioned Democrats take the heat.

The future of America is really bleak. If you expect some Superhero to come along and save us, I've got a bridge to sell you.

And if you think TFG is going to suffer ANY real consequences, I've got a Building to go with that bridge.

WTF?!? Biden opposes abandoning the filibuster to pass federal voting rights legislation...

1. Everyone Thinks Manchin & Sinema Are The Only Ones

2. It's quite possible he knows what he's doing. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

3. I think it is quite possible that he wants an exception, without breaking the filibuster.

4. Sometimes Biden comes across in a bad way to me.

5. yup

7. I doubt he supports another exception. Hell, Sinema wants to reverse the 2 now and go to 60 votes

35. It is scary to hear Dems still promoting fantasy "bipartisan" ideas.

6. hardly surprising, he has said this for ages

8. Folks are not listening between the lines. He doesn't want to blow up the big infrastructure stuff.

11. The bi-partisan smaller one that the Rethugs are now playing 'pull the football' games with? Or the

9. If Biden is talking about going back to a talking filibuster, Manchin opposes that (and Sinema, and

18. That's from April....this is from June 16

19. That has nothing to do with the talking filibuster nor Sinema or Feinstein

23. Not specifically, no, however you quoted a piece headlined

24. Manchin is not the only one opposed. Sinema is even more hardcore.

25. I honestly believe that Sinema will fall in line once Manchin agrees (iirc she signed up to

29. Did you miss the thread you're posting on?

39. No I didn't miss anything. I'd have no doubt he was channelling Manchin.

21. No... Manchin favors it.

10. Unacceptable.

12. Dems have been asleep at the wheel on this issue

14. +1, ... because too many don't believe it'll affect elections but we see the effects in polling !!!

15. and Biden says people will vote anyway,

20. +1, I they have it objectively wrong; making it harder to vote them peephole won't vote !!!

13. Bottom line, should voting rights pass he isn't NOT going to sign it. Plus it's probably politically

17. He didn't say that.

36. Wow, that's leadership. "Isn't going to not sign it..."

16. I do understand. He's not speaking in isolation, and I bet if he had

22. Happened to catch this question and answer on the fillibuster

26. Oh, for Pete's sake. Stop it

27. +1

28. Maybe he's hoping for a better playing field after the mid-terms

37. It'll be too late after the mid-terms.

30. Democrats have the ball, second down and 3 at the Republican 20 yardline.

32. +1, problem is Manchin isn't the ONLY person wanting to keep the filibuster he's just the face of it

31. Gee, when it was just Manchin and Sinema to vilify, we were being told to "get tough with them"...

33. I.....I........I don't understand.

34. Republicans are suppressing voting rights

38. He also said that he thinks the Senate should go back to an actual filibuster