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Nevilledog

(51,063 posts)
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 02:36 PM Jul 2021

Merrick Garland Must Prosecute Criminal Former Trump Admin Officials to Save Democracy



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Me: “The only way to stop the next Trump administration is to prosecute the last one.”

Editorial: Merrick Garland Must Prosecute Criminal Former Trump Admin Officials to Save Democracy

https://politicususa.com/2021/07/19/opinion-merrick-garland-must-prosecute-criminal-former-trump-admin-officials-to-save-democracy.html… via @politicususa

Opinion: Merrick Garland Must Prosecute Criminal Former Trump Admin Officials to Save Democracy
The only way to stop the next Trump administration is to prosecute the last one.
politicususa.com
10:45 AM · Jul 19, 2021


https://www.politicususa.com/2021/07/19/opinion-merrick-garland-must-prosecute-criminal-former-trump-admin-officials-to-save-democracy.html

The only way to stop the next Trump administration is to prosecute the last one.

Democracy is hanging on by a thin thread as we battle the authoritarian death-cult impulses of the current Republican Party. The situation is dire, and requires warriors for justice rather than traditional institutionalists. Attorney General Merrick Garland is repeatedly stepping in to defend Trump from non-work related activities (like defaming an alleged sexual assault victim of his) and now his DOJ is declining to prosecute Trump administration member Wilbur Ross for lying to Congress.

What do our laws mean if they don’t apply to certain people? How is this restoring faith in the U.S. “judicial” system?

The Department of Commerce Inspector General’s report confirmed Congressional Democrats’ findings from their investigation that former Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross misled Congress with false testimony regarding the origins and purpose of the Trump administration’s proposed citizenship question on the 2020 census.

Rep. Carolyn Maloney, Chairwoman of the Committee on Oversight and Reform, issued the following statement on Monday, “The independent Inspector General has confirmed what the Oversight Committee found in our extensive investigation: that Secretary Ross misled Congress and the American people about the true motivations behind the Trump Administration’s illegal efforts to add a citizenship question to the census. Lying to Congress is unacceptable, and the IG did the right thing by referring Secretary Ross’s conduct to the Justice Department.

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Merrick Garland Must Prosecute Criminal Former Trump Admin Officials to Save Democracy (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
Given recent decisions by the DOJ Bettie Jul 2021 #1
I am just making a guess here, but I suspect that Garland is being very careful... Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #2
High road, powder dry... lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #5
unfortunately, they may not see it as that big a threat, I don't agree, but I am not in DC. Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #10
Merrick Garland is the new Robert Mueller SledDriver Jul 2021 #9
That is not true. I read these posts and I think...sure we all know Trump is a criminal...been Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #25
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #31
That very well could be gratuitous Jul 2021 #12
Oh for fucks sakes. Blame it on Obama. happy feet Jul 2021 #16
Oops, sorry gratuitous Jul 2021 #17
AG at the time Eric Holder Sewa Jul 2021 #18
And AG Eric Holder was . . . ? gratuitous Jul 2021 #19
Are you saying that AG Holder couldn't Sewa Jul 2021 #21
We never would have had the ACA had we gone down the path you describe so I disagree. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #26
I thought the same so that's why all cases have to be open and shut on its face and no jury ... uponit7771 Jul 2021 #29
Unfortunately, I agree with a previous poster...seems that Garland and the current DOJ... wcmagumba Jul 2021 #3
Accelerating the precipitous decline. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #6
Probably nothing. Garland just doesn't want to make waves. Earth-shine Jul 2021 #8
Garland is acting like Neville Chamberlain in the late 1930s. That did not turn out well. triron Jul 2021 #11
Garland talked a great game during and after his nomination. Earth-shine Jul 2021 #14
Time for actions is passing. Not looking like anything is happening re drumpf. Amazing BSdetect Jul 2021 #4
Our MO is to look forward. The other side knows this & counts on it. CrispyQ Jul 2021 #7
Elie Mystal tweet Beringia Jul 2021 #13
People said the same re Bush/Cheney and war crimes n/t leftstreet Jul 2021 #15
Not sure he is up to the task of confronting Fascism. Maybe he hopes it will just go away. jalan48 Jul 2021 #20
Wilbur Ross moondust Jul 2021 #22
AP and other media have corrected themselves. The decision to not prosecute Ross.... George II Jul 2021 #23
K&R Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #24
Garland did not make this decision LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #27
I think the opinion piece came out before the false AP story. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jul 2021 #28

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
1. Given recent decisions by the DOJ
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 02:39 PM
Jul 2021

it seems that he has no interest in prosecuting any of them.

So, we'll see how that goes for our nation.

My guess is not well, but the rich grifters will get away with all of their criminal activity and the next batch will be emboldened even farther.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. I am just making a guess here, but I suspect that Garland is being very careful...
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jul 2021

about who he is going to prosecute. I don't think the Biden Admin want to be seen as persecuting the opposition.

High road and all that.

SledDriver

(2,058 posts)
9. Merrick Garland is the new Robert Mueller
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:07 PM
Jul 2021

It's the same things being said about Merrick Garland as with Robert Mueller -- "There are big things going on behind the scenes", "It takes time to build a case", "The delays are just proof of how thorough a case Garland is building".



Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
25. That is not true. I read these posts and I think...sure we all know Trump is a criminal...been
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:47 AM
Jul 2021

known for years, but he is a careful criminal and you have to be able to build a case that convicts him. And I would wager in every corner of the US including blue states, any jury would have at least one Trumper who will never convict him. Also, do we want to set the stage for every ex-president subject to prosecution? Trump is old...he will cease to be a problem in a few years. Now if you can prove that those around him behaved in criminal ways then by all means prosecute them. I do think we should stop second-guessing the Attorney General and give him a chance.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. That very well could be
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 04:19 PM
Jul 2021

I still maintain that the first major blunder of the Obama administration was to look forward to the future, and not back to the past as their rationale for not holding the Bush administration accountable for lying the country into two occupations in Afghanistan and Iraq, instituting a torture regime, creating the gulag at Guantanamo Bay, and various other crimes against humanity. That forbearance led, in my opinion, to the even worse administration of the former guy. In letting those folks off the hook, I shudder to think of what the next Republican administration is going to look like, and what atrocities it will normalize.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Oops, sorry
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 06:01 PM
Jul 2021

Who else shoulda/coulda held the Bush administration accountable for its multitude of crimes but the Obama administration? Name one person, entity, agency, or dancing hobgoblin that was more responsible?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. And AG Eric Holder was . . . ?
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 06:32 PM
Jul 2021

A member of the Obama administration, no? Or did Holder appoint himself?

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
26. We never would have had the ACA had we gone down the path you describe so I disagree.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jul 2021

Everyone always wants to go after TFG, now Trump is criminal no doubt. But as I see no chance of conviction, there really is no point. And we need to move on. We can't live in the past while ignoring the problems we face now. You want a complete blowout for the GOP in 22 then go down this path.

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
29. I thought the same so that's why all cases have to be open and shut on its face and no jury ...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:03 PM
Jul 2021

... could not find a guilty verdict.

I nearly agree with this if the plan was to choke the current leadership of the GQP out of its trajectory of treason

wcmagumba

(2,883 posts)
3. Unfortunately, I agree with a previous poster...seems that Garland and the current DOJ...
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 02:43 PM
Jul 2021

have little to no interest in prosecuting the criminals from the previous administration...for whatever reason this will continue the precipitous decline of true democracy in this country (imo).

Earth-shine

(3,972 posts)
8. Probably nothing. Garland just doesn't want to make waves.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jul 2021

He'd rather be seen by history as having been a serious institutionalist than be someone who actually made a difference.

Earth-shine

(3,972 posts)
14. Garland talked a great game during and after his nomination.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jul 2021

I felt inspired by him speaking of his family history and belief in the law.

This man is not going to fight for anything except to keep the records sealed.

CrispyQ

(36,445 posts)
7. Our MO is to look forward. The other side knows this & counts on it.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jul 2021

Our side isn't taking the authoritarian threat seriously enough, IMO.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
13. Elie Mystal tweet
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jul 2021







Elie Mystal
@ElieNYC
The Garland @TheJusticeDept has sent the very clear signal that it is too chickenshit to actually prosecute any white man with power.

All they're going to do is go after low level functionaries.

moondust

(19,971 posts)
22. Wilbur Ross
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:27 PM
Jul 2021
Wilbur Ross, the Trump administration’s new commerce secretary, presided over a deal with a Russian businessman with ties to Vladimir Putin while serving in his previous role as vice-chairman of the Bank of Cyprus.
~
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/23/wilbur-ross-russian-deal-bank-of-cyprus-donald-trump-commerce-secretary


~
Cyprus has a longstanding reputation as the place Russians go when they need to stash or launder large amounts of money with no questions asked.
~
https://www.justsecurity.org/39409/money-russia-cyprus-trump-teams-odd-business-dealings/

I doubt Wilbur has ever been seriously investigated for his "work" in Cyprus. I know the DOJ has its hands full but...

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. AP and other media have corrected themselves. The decision to not prosecute Ross....
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:58 AM
Jul 2021

....was made by the TRUMP Administration's DOJ, not Merrick Garland or the Biden Administration, and before either took office this year.

Sad, but the once again the media has been sloppy and misreported this story just to get it out quick, not correctly.




Here's the very quiet correction from one of the sources of the story in the politicususa article:

Correction: After publication of this story, the Justice Department and Commerce Department inspector general revealed additional information to indicate the declination to prosecute took place during the Trump administration. This story has been corrected to note this information.


https://www.govexec.com/management/2021/07/doj-will-not-prosecute-trump-officials-after-ig-referred-findings-false-testimony-census/183843/

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
30. I think the opinion piece came out before the false AP story.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:06 PM
Jul 2021

The principle is still true. Garland needs to prosecute Trump and his minions for a horrifying array of crimes, including the Jan 6th coup attempt.

Evidence so far is that he is protecting, rather than prosecuting Trump.

That is terrifying.

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