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Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:29 PM

The question keeping Trump-loving men up at night: Why won't women date us?

Now the incels add political "discrimination" to their list of grievances. It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

The newest entry in this pantheon of conservative lonely hearts comes from Eric Kaufmann, whose piece this week in the National Review, “Political Discrimination as Civil-Rights Struggle,” argues that college women’s disinterest in dating Trump supporters doesn’t just hurt their feelings, but is in fact discrimination. This, Kaufmann maintains, is evidence of a “progressive authoritarianism” that’s compelling “young elite Americans” to be turned off by “conservatives' resistance to racial, gender, and sexual progressivism.”

It’s true: A growing number of Americans are increasingly intolerant of racial, gender, and sexual intolerance. Bigotry just isn’t sexy, and few people seek partners who don’t acknowledge their full humanity. But for Kaufmann, the fault lies not with the people who hold noxious views, but with those who have the temerity to not want to get naked with them. His solution? If you can’t date, legislate. After identifying right-wing conservatives as a “small and declining political minority in elite institutions,” he calls for institutional remedies to prioritize this minority, writing, “Those on the right, along with freedom-minded allies on the left, will have to use government and the law to limit institutional autonomy just enough to protect individual freedoms.”

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Of course, conservatives have repeatedly shown a willingness to dispense with their core principles when market forces turn against them. And Ross Douthat and Robin Hanson prove that when access to sex is at stake, conservatives get downright socialist real fast. What enrages these men isn’t the lack of opportunities for romantic discussions of marginal tax rates and defunding Medicare; it’s that women can choose what they do with their bodies, and with whom they do it. “Progressive authoritarianism” is simply a new name for the same kinds of fearmongering rhetoric that already drives conservative positions on abortion access, birth control, childcare, gender identity, and more, and no amount of academic jargon and economic bloviating can conceal it.

Most of us learn early in life that you can’t bully someone into liking you, that not all desire is reciprocal, and that we can all learn from self-examination. Those who apparently haven’t should keep this important dating tip in mind: When a critical mass of people find your values regressive, your political beliefs inhumane, and your political hero repellent, it’s not them. It’s you.


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Reply The question keeping Trump-loving men up at night: Why won't women date us? (Original post)
iemanja Jul 11 OP
LakeArenal Jul 11 #1
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LuckyLib Jul 11 #35
AZ8theist Jul 11 #48
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iemanja Jul 11 #8
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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:31 PM

1. Even better they can't find anyone to employ them.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:33 PM

20. Liberals are killing so many jobs

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:33 PM

2. This little "problem" will eventually take care of itself

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:41 PM

3. "Progressive authoritarianism?"



What a joke! There is literally no such thing. It only exists in their tiny little pea brains.

Sorry guys, but if women find you repugnant, that's on you. We aren't DOING anything to you, other than reacting to your repulsive viewpoints and behaviors. Go find an incel chat room to whine in.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:18 PM

35. "tiny little pea brains" is the key here. It doesn't take much

to figure out if a guy has one. Thinking women will look elsewhere.

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Response to LuckyLib (Reply #35)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:09 PM

48. They have tiny little somethings for sure..

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:51 PM

53. I dunno, I can think of a few examples of progressive authoritarianism.

For instance, the desire of some on the left to criminalize so-called "hate speech" is one example. To one degree or another, some of the ideas proposed for wealth redistribution could be called authoritarian. The idea of "safe spaces" is authoritarian on its face, as well. Some of the more extreme gun control proposals could be called authoritarian, depending on where one falls in that particular debate. Then there are the trivial things, like mandating that stores can't sell soda cups larger than 32 ounces (or whatever it was), examples of the so-called "nanny state."

The difference is that those views are generally held by some subset of progressives rather than being a major part of a platform. To some extent any government is authoritarian in that they tell citizens "you can do X, you can't do Y." Conservative governments tend to be much more restrictive, and therefore more authoritarian, than progressive governments, though.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:41 PM

4. "The list" as to why...it would take days, maybe weeks to compile

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Response to PortTack (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:58 PM

29. What list? It's really only 1 item long...

By and large, they're assholes.

Why would a respectable woman/girl date them?

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:43 PM

5. Because the kind of people that like Trump are cruel, self-centered and frankly ...

...not very bright.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:45 PM

6. nice try asshole....

this is just pathetic. It's because you're assholes. Women generally don't like assholes, so try not being one....

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:47 PM

7. A friend of mine met a guy on a dating site

When she met him at the restaurant they talked politics and she found out he was a raging right winger. She got up from the table and left before they ordered. He kept texting her to try to meet up again and she blocked him. She said she wanted a boyfriend but not that bad!

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:52 PM

8. Being a Trump supporter

just crosses the line. You know the person lacks basic decency if he voted for Trump.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:51 PM

28. the only way to get their dicks sucked is to do each other

women are too smart to touch it

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:56 PM

9. Comfort women for incels?

Yeah. Not so much. 😡

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 06:59 PM

10. Haha

Poor little boys. Good thing I'm gonna be a full blown lesbian transwoman

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:05 PM

12. That article is pretty funny

an enjoyable read.

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Response to iemanja (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:28 PM

39. Yes, it is funny! A John (yeah, he really is named John) we know is having major dating issues.....

...as the mere mention of Democrats, Chicago's mayor, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Hunter, Hillary et al....send him into a towering rage (not loud but lengthy) against all that don't genuflect to Trumpy. I really don't think he gets why the women he tries to date, after a 1st meet-up, drop him like a stone. Oddly enough, even some right leaning women we all know have mentioned to him that unless he's being really clear up front he's a Trump sycophant (he won't) he'll continue to have massive turn downs.

Clueless, indeed, when you think all the world adores Trumpy but hate all Democrats.

Btw, I do know on Match.com and other major dating sites many women, and for some time now, clearly state they will not even respond to Trumpers! Too icky for sure.......bwahahahah!

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:38 PM

23. Hell to the yes!!!!!! N/t

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:05 PM

11. Maybe they need to date women that aren't in college

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Seriously, 65% of college educated women are Democratic or lean Democratic vs. college educated men at 48%.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/18/men-and-women-in-the-u-s-continue-to-differ-in-voter-turnout-rate-party-identification/

Maybe they could meet a nice girl at church!

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:08 PM

14. I don't think it is just college educated women

but most women overall.

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Response to iemanja (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:57 PM

47. It isn't, but that's where the biggest disparity is

Among the college educated, 65% of women favor Democrats vs. 48% of men. In those with less than a college education, 51% of women identify as Democrats vs only 40% of men. Republicans have made the biggest gains in the last 10 years among white men without a college education.

One more thing we have going for us is that across the board, in all races and all levels of educational attainment, women actually show up to the polls more often than men by about 3 to 4%. 40 years ago they were dead even.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:38 PM

22. Maybe they could meet a nice girl at church!

Perfect place to find a handmaiden!

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #22)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:30 PM

40. Hah! Good one. Maybe she'll wear a 1860's style dress ala' the Handmaid's Tale, eh? Lovely!

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:06 PM

13. Li'l Eric Grasping At Straws

Hey, Kaufman; the train left the station, has jumped the tracks, while on a mountainside.
This ridiculous rhetoric of yours is going to change nothing.
Idiotic loser!

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:10 PM

15. What they are "turned off" by Eric are bigotry and willful ignorance.

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Response to BlueNProud (Reply #15)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:29 PM

18. Also sense of entitlement.

Nothing gets the ladies going like a man who makes all of his problems about her instead.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:20 PM

16. yeah, I don't get it either...

Why would a prospective partner care if you tell them they are just dumb cows, that their opinions are stupid and need to reflect yours, and they shouldn't be in the workforce? Why would anyone care if you belittle, discriminate against, or get violent with people based on their skin color or heritage? Why would anyone care that you spew lies and hatred? Why?

I don't get it either. It must be those damn dems. They got you. They own you.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:23 PM

17. Mean-spirited cruelty toward the vulnerable isn't catnip to the ladies?

I'm thoroughly shocked. Wait. Nope, "shocked" isn't the word I was looking for.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:33 PM

19. Ask MT Greene. She has been known to be flexible on those marriage vows.

Ask MT Greene. She has been known to be flexible on those marriage vows.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:37 PM

21. They cant be that fucking stupid can they?

They honestly wonder why women wont date them.......

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:41 PM

24. Orange Anus has been a blatant disgusting reminder of how vile some men can be, Guilt by affiliation

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:43 PM

25. Living in red rural hell, I might be single well into my golden years

I find absolutely nothing attractive about a trump supporter or evangelical "christians"

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:46 PM

26. Whining pouting pathetic little wee-wee boys.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 07:49 PM

27. Maybe those guys should just

try dating their other hand. Variety IS the spice of life!

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:04 PM

30. conservative women attractive? - liberal women ugly?

conservative women attractive? -
liberal women ugly?

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #30)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:23 PM

37. This is funny.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:05 PM

31. It's not possible to be an 'InCel' unless you are incarcerated or Dead.

InCels are not a real thing, they are arguably VolCels because they voluntarily have opted out the actions and behaviors and social skills practice, and professional assistance that would remedy their condition. They are Voluntarily opting out. They carry a shallow, skewed view of the other gender, and an apathetic unwillingness to filter through the thousands of people needed to find those few or one who really can value and experience their worth. It’s just so much easier to blame the world, turn on the old x-box and shoot some digital avatars in the head.

InCels feel quite entitled to sex. Pathetic, you are entitled to breathe, eat, have a place to sleep maybe. You are entitled to take your carcass out the front door and make the most of it, regardless of how low your SMV, if you did that, and were an authentic representation of yourself, your condition would ultimately get cured.

Which brings me to a critical point. I do not support or condone the professional sex worker but InCels as in Involuntarily Celibate, never mention hiring a professional sex worker. If you need your sex for free, may I give you a reality check. Sex is never free. Free Love does not exist. Or if it does, it is so effin rare as to be a unicorn. In which case InCels need to clue up and get real. Nobody is entitled to a unicorn.
[link:https://medium.com/@largerthanyourhead/incels-only-exist-in-jail-or-the-morgue-a240b6785160|

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:06 PM

32. Authoritarian Neanderthal Loser's Confession: seeking the little woman

Unbelievable. You just can't make this stuff up.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:12 PM

33. Ever heard of church??

I know lots of female brainwashed sheep. One thing they have in common is they believe in some fairy tale of a white hippy in a robe. It would be nice if some of these female sheep throw them a mercy fuck so they be less likely to storm the capitol and plot a coup. I know we can’t force anyone to fuck these losers so yeah.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:13 PM

34. Legislate what?

According to the underlying article, the writer wants political conservatives to be recognized as a minority that should get civil rights protections!


If public institutions such as universities, or de facto common carriers such as Google and Facebook, are acting illiberally by politically discriminating in how they apply community rules, government must step in to protect the liberty of the individuals within them. When such institutions are openly politicized and captured, democratically elected governments should be able to regulate their operations to ensure that they are not violating individuals’ rights to equal treatment or freedom of expression within the law that common carriers must obey. It’s worth adding that political discrimination, by forcing people to self-censor, restricts their freedom of expression. Unsuprisingly, I find a strong association between people’s willingness to politically discriminate against conservatives and their support for firing campaigns.

Can anything be done about the political intolerance and discrimination that is bleeding from campus into knowledge work more broadly? Yes, but only with a crusade for political civil rights based on three core policies.

First, free-speech rights need to be protected to the fullest extent of the law. Employers should not be permitted to fire employees for legally protected speech unless the firing is justified by the core aims of the organization and authorized in an employee’s contract. Clearly, speech restrictions are justifiable for CIA agents or the civil service, but not for Twitter employees. As per European law, and as adjudicated in the Redfearn v. U.K. (2012) case, lawmakers should take care to draft this legislation so, before employees can be dismissed, the employer must prove that their beliefs significantly compromise their ability to perform their jobs.

Second, employees should be given the same level of protection against political discrimination as they have against other forms of discrimination. Bias should be justifiable only for explicitly political organizations. Legislators and courts would need to define terms tightly, with enough leeway for the Democratic Party to discriminate against Republicans in hiring, but not enough to let elite institutions discriminate against those critical of affirmative action or diversity by requiring political loyalty tests such as diversity statements.


I thought that the conservative solution would be to make their own google, facebook - the capitalist way. Now they want to redefine them as common carriers.

https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2021/07/12/political-discrimination-as-civil-rights-struggle/

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:24 PM

38. well, for starters, there's the suitor's allergy to introspection...🤔

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:31 PM

41. I like and approve of this line.

"Most of us learn early in life that you can’t bully someone into liking you, that not all desire is reciprocal, and that we can all learn from self-examination."

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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #41)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:32 PM

43. "she's just not into you."

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:32 PM

42. women can be discriminating in whom they date without engaging in discrimination

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:35 PM

44. I suspect they would support turning this country into a clone of the Handmaid's Tale to turn women

into little more than property as well.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #44)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:14 PM

49. It's on the agenda

and ending reproductive rights is a key step.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:45 PM

45. I am a man...

... I was saw a dating profile that said "I love Jesus and Donald Trump" goes without saying I swiped left. My biggest conflicts come if she is on one hand cute and a Democrat but on the other hand wearing a Patriots jersey.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 08:49 PM

46. Just maybe

they don't want to date narcissistic assholes.

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:25 PM

50. Question: I wonder if incels are attracted to Trump

over their shared victimization complex?

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:56 PM

51. There are plenty of conservative women.

Maybe you would like to explain why they won’t date you either?

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:26 PM

52. Perhaps, incels simply aren't able to accept the awful truth.

Hell, even a Tasmanian Devil can get laid. Incels are simply unf*ckable. Natural selection is shouting at them and they won't listen. - just a thought-

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Response to iemanja (Original post)

Sun Jul 11, 2021, 11:35 PM

54. I would

Rather die than date a conservative incel.

Because I will not tolerate being abused.

Been there done that.
Got several psych diagnosis to prove it.

If I somehow dated a conservative incel I would be dead or he would be.

I don't date anymore.

Sick of bad people.
Don't want to deal with bad people can't stand them.I have a sense that goes off when I meet people,like an asshole detector. When it goes off I leave the situation I trust my intuition above all regarding bad people.

So I find peace in avoiding certain people,and in dating nobody.

On a side note..
Too many people have either fetishes ,a fascination or hatred of transpeople.
It grosses me out and pisses me off when people ask me repeatedly anything about my previous gender. Or don't want to use my pronouns/ identity as a trans feline.
A mistake is one thing,do it again after I tell you,that's assholery.

I totally am not ok with that.

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