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Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:10 AM

Sunrise Movement just stole Pete Buttigieg & Pres Biden's Climate Corps.

Biden commended & approved Buttigieg's Nat'l Service Policy Plan for a Civilian Climate Corps.
In January, Sunrise tried to take credit for it. And then a few days ago they staged a protest against Biden, demanding that he do the thing he already said he was doing, and their protest got a bunch of their Sunrise members arrested








Climate Corps was right there in Buttigieg’s National Service plan.
Perhaps Momentum Movement could acknowledge this rather than sending their Sunrise youth Movement out to the streets & waiting media, & claming credit for something that was long written into a thorough policy plan be Pete Buttigieg, back in 2019.




https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/07/03/buttigieg-national-service-2020-1396600?__twitter_impression=true

Buttigieg introduces national service plan
The Navy veteran has emphasized national service as a way of bringing Americans together.


07/03/2019
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Seems to be a pattern with this youth movement..

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Reply Sunrise Movement just stole Pete Buttigieg & Pres Biden's Climate Corps. (Original post)
Budi Jul 2021 OP
comradebillyboy Jul 2021 #1
The Magistrate Jul 2021 #3
comradebillyboy Jul 2021 #13
The Magistrate Jul 2021 #16
comradebillyboy Jul 2021 #46
rogue emissary Jul 2021 #36
Cha Jul 2021 #25
mopinko Jul 2021 #2
betsuni Jul 2021 #4
Hortensis Jul 2021 #5
Me. Jul 2021 #7
Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #6
Hortensis Jul 2021 #8
Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2021 #24
betsuni Jul 2021 #26
George II Jul 2021 #30
betsuni Jul 2021 #32
George II Jul 2021 #28
msongs Jul 2021 #45
msfiddlestix Jul 2021 #9
George II Jul 2021 #14
Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #10
uponit7771 Jul 2021 #11
Cha Jul 2021 #27
George II Jul 2021 #12
JohnSJ Jul 2021 #15
Politicub Jul 2021 #17
George II Jul 2021 #21
Cha Jul 2021 #29
mcar Jul 2021 #18
JohnSJ Jul 2021 #19
George II Jul 2021 #20
TheRealNorth Jul 2021 #22
mcar Jul 2021 #23
Cha Jul 2021 #31
mcar Jul 2021 #33
George II Jul 2021 #34
mcar Jul 2021 #39
Cha Jul 2021 #35
betsuni Jul 2021 #37
BannonsLiver Jul 2021 #38
George II Jul 2021 #40
BootinUp Jul 2021 #41
JI7 Jul 2021 #42
JI7 Jul 2021 #43
betsuni Jul 2021 #44
vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #47
George II Jul 2021 #48

Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:48 AM

1. The Sunrise Movement has opposed the Biden Administration

at every turn. Then they take credit for everything the Biden Administration does.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:04 AM

3. Sounds Like A Congressional Republican, Sir

Brag about what your district or state gets out of a bill you campaigned against....

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

13. Indeed the dishonesty displayed by both groups is staggering.

But the Republicans are much more dangerous because they have substantial political power unlike the Sunrise children.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:15 AM

16. Certainly, Sir

Simply observing taxonomic resemblances between the dwarf and giant of the same family....

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:08 PM

46. An apt comparison.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:14 PM

36. +1

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:09 PM

25. Yeah, how does that work?

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:59 AM

2. i tend to think these people are just a sham.

kabuki theater, but for what? and for whom?

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:04 AM

4. K&R

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:05 AM

5. :) Of course. Those who seek followings but have no achievements

always claim the achievements of others. AND their goals.

Lying to deceive well-meaing suckers seeking a cause to join is such a common power-seeking tactic that I learned to take an immediate hard look at ANY "reform" movement or politicians. Reeealy?

By definition, if wannabe leaders on any side are lying as a main strategy -- which is easy for truth-seekers to check, they're dirty as hell and need "reforming" right out of politics. And the leaders behind Sunrise are lying as a main strategy.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:22 AM

7. ...



Happy 4th

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:11 AM

6. They seem upset that what they work for isn't happening instantly. Welcome to US politics, Kids !

American politics moves at the speed of molasses.

I don't understand getting contentious with people who are on your side.

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:35 AM

8. Some followers maybe. The leaders aren't so stupid.

They are also not, and never have been, on the Democrats' "side." Many of them openly refuse to vote for Democrats and encourage others not to also, others just push, push, push hostile messages. They're on their own side, which is neither Democratic nor Republican.

Power-seekers like these wouldn't have followers if more people knew to examine behaviors, not just listen to high-minded siren songs designed to draw them in. After all, would real climate warriors or "progressives" throw the nation to a Republican Party determined to dismantle all climate action and progressive programs? Would they try to defeat Democrats instead of fighting with?

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:41 PM

24. The first earth day was 50 years ago.

It’s always fun watching the septuagenarians who oversaw the decades of conditions that put us here tell the kids, who will have to (hopefully) live with it, “hey you can’t get anything overnight, what’s the rush?”

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:17 PM

26. Nobody said that.

The point is U.S. politics -- Republicans make it dysfunctional. Democrats are the environmentalists, always have been. Not a "both sides" thing. That's punching to the Left. This is a forum for Democrats.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #26)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:28 PM

30. The only way for politicians to get anything done is to win their elections. How many endorsees....

....of Sunrise Movement are in government to actually accomplish anything?

You're correct, and it's a pity some seem feel the need to trash Democrats instead of supporting them.

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Response to George II (Reply #30)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:32 PM

32. Sunrise Movement is obviously not "grassroots." Democrats are the progressives, and

it's "punching to the Left" for whatever reason.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:25 PM

28. "The kids" aren't coming up with this on their own, there are adults directing AND financing them.

I wonder where they were in the past, up to 50 years ago?

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:46 PM

45. one wonders how many of these alleged kids drive around in gas powered cars and recharge

their electronic devices using coal powered electricity

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:43 AM

9. weird.

wondering who is counseling this group's strategies/tactics ?

It feels very suspicious, but maybe that's ptsd effect from the past five-six years of ratfuckery to the extreme.




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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:06 AM

14. They're closely affiliated with Justice Democrats, in fact have comingled founders and officials.

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:48 AM

10. These people are freakin' idiots.

They apparently have no idea about domestic politics works. They prefer to wat out own. So frustrating.

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:54 AM

11. Looks so much like the 09 pony crews

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:18 PM

27. uh huh.. we were

there.

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

12. Sunrise Movement isn't a "youth movement", it's an adult movement that uses teenagers....

....for their public demonstrations. It's not unlike many other "youth movements" we've seen in the past here and in other countries.

This same organization famously staged a demonstration outside Nancy Pelosi's office in November 2018, led by a member of congress. They demanded that a climate committee, Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, which was disbanded years before, be revived.

Unmentioned was that weeks before Speaker Pelosi had already announced she was reviving it.

Then, when Pelosi asked that member of congress to be a part of the select committee the response was, "I'm too busy".

It should also be noted that Sunrise Movement is a "Carey" committee, a hybrid PAC and Super PAC:

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/sunrise-pac/C00674697/summary/2020

NOTE: This committee is a so-called Carey committee, a hybrid PAC/super PAC.


https://www.opensecrets.org/resources/learn/glossary.php#Carey+Committee

Carey Committee: A Carey committee is a hybrid political action committee that is not affiliated with a candidate and has the ability to operate both as a traditional PAC, contributing funds to a candidate's committee, and as a super PAC, which makes independent expenditures. To do so, Carey committees must have a separate bank account for each purpose. The committee can collect unlimited contributions from almost any source for its independent expenditure account, but may not use those funds for its traditional PAC


In other words, Sunrise Movement is a "dark money" committee.

In the 2020 cycle, they had independent expenditures opposing several Democratic candidates. Those expenditures weren't much at the time, since they only converted to a "Carey" committee in mid-2020. Look for these to be much higher in future elections.

Finally, in the aftermath of January 6, did they think that a demonstration that "blockaded every entrance to the white house [sic]" would NOT result in arrests? I suspect that's what they wanted.

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:14 AM

15. Thank-you

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:24 AM

17. Example of one of the youths

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Response to Politicub (Reply #17)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:39 AM

21. ....

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:27 PM

29. Exactly.. TY

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:31 AM

18. I will say it again

Why aren't they protesting Republicans?

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Response to mcar (Reply #18)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:34 AM

19. Exactly

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Response to mcar (Reply #18)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:36 AM

20. They have NEVER protested republicans. This is the third well-publicized protest they've conducted..

Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senator Dianne Feinstein, and now President Joe Biden.

I wonder how these kids can afford to travel to Washington for their demonstrations.

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Response to George II (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:54 AM

22. Might be an astroturf group being funded by Republicans....

and/or "useful idiots".

They Seemed Like Democratic Activists. They Were Secretly Conservative Spies.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/us/politics/spies-conservatives-left-political-enemies.html

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Response to George II (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:29 PM

23. That's a good question

As you posted above, they are a dark money group using kids for their aim - which are not liberal.

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Response to mcar (Reply #18)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:30 PM

31. Excellent question! What

are they afraid of?

Go get magats, SM.. they're the ones who are trying to freaking Destroy our Planet.

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Response to Cha (Reply #31)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:53 PM

33. If these young adults voted for Democrats

and encouraged their friends and family to vote for Democrats, maybe we'd have an easier time getting climate related legislation done.

But no, they've got to protest and talk down Democrats, which could end up suppressing the vote.

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Response to mcar (Reply #33)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:04 PM

34. Most if not all of the demonstrators are too young to vote.

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Response to George II (Reply #34)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:18 PM

39. Maybe so, but in many states teens can pre register when they are 17

and they could be influencing their older peers, friends and family members instead of falling for this nonsense.

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Response to mcar (Reply #33)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:06 PM

35. Yes We Would! But,

seeing the big Global Picture is Not what they're about

Happy Fourth of July, mcar!

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:16 PM

37. They don't know anything. I'm embarrassed for them.

Shame on the adults who mislead them, teach them to be cynically ignorant.

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:17 PM

38. Glad to see the arrests.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #38)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:20 PM

40. Me too except I think they were glad too. After 1/6 did they really think they'd get away with that?

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:21 PM

41. Sunrise o're the battlefield. Nt

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:21 PM

42. This group cares nothing for the issue of climate change

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:27 PM

43. Why did they feel the need to deny or lie about this issue ?

This is the point and shows their agenda which has nothing to do with fighting climate change.

A Democrat Buttigieg came up with an idea which Biden supported but they tried to make it like it was their idea and Biden wasn't supporting it and had to be pushed to.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #43)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:42 PM

44. Myth of Democrats having to be dragged to the Left because they're the same as Republicans and

everyone's bribed.

Pretending they're the first to introduce ideas that Teh Establishment thought too radical but now are mainstream because dragging "corporate Dems" to the Left. Taking credit for usual Democratic ideas as if they never existed. Lying. Seven minute abs. It's a habit.

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Response to Budi (Original post)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:11 PM

47. I wanna know

Who is bank rolling these "kids" because they are protesting the wrong people.

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #47)

Sun Jul 4, 2021, 06:25 PM

48. Sunrise Movement is a "Carey" committee, i.e., a hybrid PAC/SuperPAC. As a Super PAC they can....

...accept unlimited amounts of money from any entity. Essentially they're a dark money organization, so there's no telling actually "who" is bankrolling these children.

The demonstrators come from all over the country, so there's a lot of money behind them.

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