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albacore

(2,398 posts)
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:12 PM Jul 2021

Censorship doesn't work...

I was out in the truck and foolishly switched to the RWNJ station for about 2 minutes. Dan Bondino (sp?) - Rush's replacement - was ranting on about how Covid is just an excuse for control by the liberals. He said the Covid fatality rate is .008, and all kinds of other crazy shit. Free-dumb!!

I know that all that "free speech" stuff is important, but .... JHC.... the man is killing people with his lies!

DU lawyers:... Can that asshole be sued? Class action? Something?

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pwb

(11,259 posts)
2. I resist the temptation to go see what new outrage they have today.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:41 PM
Jul 2021

At least he is killing mostly pukes now. The unvaccinated.

krawhitham

(4,643 posts)
3. He might not be that far off on fatality rate
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 03:45 PM
Jul 2021

Covid fatality rate is .0179 at most

Deaths/Total case = Fatality rate
620,685/34,563,091 = 0.0179580292746387

But that does not include asymptomatic infected that were never tested.

Dr. Fauci has said roughly 40-45 percent of Americans with COVID-19 are asymptomatic

A study says it might be 50%

If it is 50% the fatality rate is 0.0089

620,685/69,126,182 = 0.0089790146373193

albacore

(2,398 posts)
4. Math was never my strong suit... I taught history.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 04:06 PM
Jul 2021

But those numbers might make mathematical sense, but...

This country has turned itself inside out about 3,000 deaths on 9/11. What would the numbers be on that one? Nobody screamed on the radio about how the loss of a "mere" 3,000 people was not great enough to cause policy changes.

And we didn't have people pointing out that roughly 3 million Americans served in Vietnam and that "only" 56,000 died there.

And our casualties in combat during WWII were a minuscule percent of the population of the country, too. 140 million Americans... and we "only" lost 291,000.

Covid has killed TWICE what we lost in WWII... and in less than 2 years...and assholes like Bondino can still pump their bullshit out on the public airwaves.

It ain't right!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
5. I see that we lost 418,000 plus in WWII.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 04:17 PM
Jul 2021

Link: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=how+many+u.s.+soldiers+died+in+ww2

Yeah, we've still lost more to Covid, but without bothering to do the math, our country's population is more than twice what it was in 1945.

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
6. Another Question for Lawyers
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 04:35 PM
Jul 2021

Not sure if this is the best analogy or example, but here goes:

There is only one cable company in my area, I know I can turn the channel and not watch Faux News, but why do I have to pay for it? Why am I required to pay for racist, homophobic, discriminatory content - does this not violate my civil and religious rights.

If the Catholic church does not have to let LBGTQ people foster children because it violates their beliefs, than why am I forced to pay for Faux News against my will?

Does someone else have a better example?

Please don't respond "cut the cord"

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
7. I worked in tech support for a cable provider.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 04:45 PM
Jul 2021

Generally channels are lumped into blocks based on similar content/programming or just because they're the "regular" channels. Cable news channels tend to fall under the latter heading. It's just the way cable providers do things. I don't think you could make an argument that it violates your civil and/or religious rights.

You can always call them and ask that they block it on your box, so it'll just show a "not authorized" message if you go to that channel. You're still paying for it as part of that channel block, but at least it'll be impossible for it to be watched in your house. Unfortunately, the only way not to pay for it is to cut the cord.

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
11. Thanks Jedi Guy
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:37 PM
Jul 2021

After I learn how to cut the cord, I am going to call the local community college continuing education department and attend various events to teach others on how to cut the cord. We need to "Defund Faux" News.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
12. You're welcome, though I'm sorry I didn't have better news for you, no pun intended.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 05:49 PM
Jul 2021

I agree that the approach most likely to succeed is to starve the beast. Alas, I suspect Fox News will always have a loyal audience ready to swallow their bullshit. The size of the audience may wax and wane over time, but it'll always be there.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
17. You are hardly being forced to watch Fox News against your will.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jul 2021

Yes, I know you said "forced to pay" but I'm going to guess there are other channels in your cable package you don't watch.

It's actually quite possible to live without cable. I haven't had it or a regular TV since 2008. I do have Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon Prime and watch all sorts of things streaming.

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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
18. I am pretty sure that's not true.
Fri Jul 2, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jul 2021

Looking back at my SS records, a bit under $30k was paid to SS, between me and my employers. I realize that I entered the workforce in 1965, and so an inflation calculator for those early years would make it somewhat more, but I've already collected more than that in the three years since I turned 70 and started collecting on my own account.

The problem with people opting out is that few of them would actually set aside that money, and if they did they'd probably not invest well and end up far, far worse off than on Social Security.

I spent some 25 years out of the workforce raising children, although I just counted and do have 32 years of recorded earnings. About ten of those years I was only working part time and earned very little.

I also have a small pension, two annuities, and other investments I draw from. My social security amount is about one third of my income, which is what it should be. The real problem is that too many people rely on SS for their entire income in old age. Those are precisely the people who would be much worse off if they were told they had to start saving that 7.5% themselves.

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