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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,710 posts)
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 08:45 PM Jun 2021

Restaurant workers are quitting at record-high rates, and it could force their employers to raise wa

wages, experts say

Restaurant workers quit at record levels in April, and it's another sign that employers are going to have to work harder to attract and retain workers.

The quit rate, which refers to the percentage of people who voluntarily leave their jobs over the period, reached 5.6% in April for the food service and accommodations sector. That number is an all-time high for the industry, according to Gordon Haskett Research Advisors, and it was more than twice the rate of the economy as a whole, not counting farming jobs.

The high quit rate is an "indication that restaurant sector employees are leaving their jobs to pursue higher wage rate opportunities - in both other sectors and other restaurant concepts," the analysts said in a report.

The quit rate is "generally viewed as a measure of an employee's confidence in finding a new job and perception of job availability," Gordon Haskett analysts say, and workers have good reason to feel this confidence. The sector also saw a record high of 1.34 million job openings in April, an increase of 350,000 over March numbers. Total nonfarm openings abound, with a record 9.3 million openings in April, per the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/restaurant-workers-are-quitting-at-record-high-rates-and-it-could-force-their-employers-to-raise-wages-experts-say/ar-AAKZLTN
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Restaurant workers are quitting at record-high rates, and it could force their employers to raise wa (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 OP
I've worked in the food biz for over 50 years. JoeOtterbein Jun 2021 #1
I worked in the biz for a long time as well... stillcool Jun 2021 #2
My daughter had to drive to 3 Waffle Houses in Ohio today before they could eat liberal_mama Jun 2021 #3
Why change diapers for $7.25 when Amazon pays $15? RainCaster Jun 2021 #7
My Perkins can't go back to 24/7 because there is leftyladyfrommo Jun 2021 #4
I am willing to pay more so they can raise wages. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #5
Restaurants will have a harder time staffing if servers are only making minimum wage happybird Jun 2021 #6
Min wage for tipped workers in most states is only $2.50/hr... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #9
I'm saying if they get the server wage upped to min. wage or a few bucks over that happybird Jun 2021 #12
Apparently people that don't work as servers think they know what's good for you MichMan Jun 2021 #15
Yep. happybird Jun 2021 #16
Most servers make less than $20/hr obamanut2012 Jun 2021 #18
Restaurant workers probably got other gigs that pay better. Tips are probably down as well. Klaralven Jun 2021 #8
There goes the claim that they can't get workers because of high unemployment benefits cojoel Jun 2021 #10
That always was the case, but that was waived early last year MichMan Jun 2021 #11
I'm an older Gen Xer. Like the oldest. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #13
Millennials have learned from their parents tcslee2020 Jun 2021 #17
All of my Z and younger Millenials are excellent workers obamanut2012 Jun 2021 #19
Housekeepers here in Boston are making about $50-$60 an hour. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #20
Good. It's about time that workers finally have employers over a barrel. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #14

JoeOtterbein

(7,699 posts)
1. I've worked in the food biz for over 50 years.
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:01 PM
Jun 2021

We never had enough employees. The businesses, and even some of the non-profits I've worked at, never paid enough.

So the bosses just pushed everyone to work harder.

Now they are seeing what happens when you don't care enough about your employees. They quit. In big numbers.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
2. I worked in the biz for a long time as well...
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:51 PM
Jun 2021

the grass is always greener, but there are some places where people have to die for there to be an opening. Says a lot if these restaurants have none of their staff returning.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
3. My daughter had to drive to 3 Waffle Houses in Ohio today before they could eat
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:54 PM
Jun 2021

The first two were closed due to not enough staff. I worked jobs like that when I was younger and there was always an evil micro-managing tyrant of a manager who wanted to make everyone's life hell for low wages. I can't blame people for not wanting to work these jobs.

My sister-in-law was complaining that she can't find employees to hire for the group of nursing homes she works for. She says, "No one wants to work with Biden giving them all this money to stay home!" Imagine that, people don't want to change diapers for $7.25 an hour.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
5. I am willing to pay more so they can raise wages.
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 10:08 PM
Jun 2021

I’m perfectly fine with them paying a living wage and increasing the costs for me to eat out.

happybird

(4,587 posts)
6. Restaurants will have a harder time staffing if servers are only making minimum wage
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 10:29 PM
Jun 2021

I wonder about this study. Not many restaurants were open for full, dine in service in April. Most states were still on 50% capacity or carry-out only restrictions. Wouldn’t the employees have quit during the bleakest part of the pandemic and not when we were finally on the cusp of fully reopening?

Also, the restaurant biz is known for the revolving door. It’s one of the only industries where quitting without notice (or even walking out mid-shift), and rehiring employees who either quit or were previously fired is commonplace. It is pretty common to jump around between different restaurants. Were these industy-typical quittings and movements counted in this study?

I’ve been in the business for 30 years, and still am, and don’t know a single server who wants to go to a no tipping/“livable wage” situation. I think the only ones interested in that are people who work in crappy corporate restaurants where you are limited to 3-4 tables, bad servers who get bad tips because they are bad at their job (there’s a lot of them out there, despite what people think it is not an easy job and looooots are folks just aren’t cut out for it), and those who are not in the business and have no real idea how it works– or how much servers actually make.

I am suspicious of the study. Did some googling and can’t find out much about the company who published it. Who paid for the study, I wonder?


Edited a couple times for clarity and typos/missing words. I’m tired, just got home from work... at a restaurant, lol!

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
9. Min wage for tipped workers in most states is only $2.50/hr...
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:17 PM
Jun 2021

Not surprising they're having trouble finding workers if they're not beating that.

happybird

(4,587 posts)
12. I'm saying if they get the server wage upped to min. wage or a few bucks over that
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:07 AM
Jun 2021

Decent servers make way more than $10-$12/hr when you include tip income for the week.
Here in VA, the server wage is $2.13/hr. You can expect to make $20/hr, and often more that, with tips. An hourly wage without tips would result in less income for professional servers. We do alright with the way things currently work.

happybird

(4,587 posts)
16. Yep.
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jun 2021

Many people think we don’t pay taxes on tips, either.

If pro-labor folks really want to help restaurant employees, they should be pushing for health insurance benefits and leave the wage/tipping thing alone.

cojoel

(953 posts)
10. There goes the claim that they can't get workers because of high unemployment benefits
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:22 PM
Jun 2021

Workers who voluntarily leave their jobs are not eligible for unemployment benefits. So it would be much more likely they are getting jobs that pay better elsewhere.

MichMan

(11,864 posts)
11. That always was the case, but that was waived early last year
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 11:52 PM
Jun 2021

Its just starting back up again as a requirement

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. I'm an older Gen Xer. Like the oldest.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:28 AM
Jun 2021

One thing I’ve noticed about the younger folks in our workforce is they are good workers. But won’t be shit on and will leave if conditions are not suitable for their lives.

Many in my generation and the boomers older than me consider them lazy because they won’t slave away at a dead end job for years. But it is the opposite.

They realize the companies they work for have no loyalty to them and return the favor. They will find a job or gig or hustle to make what they want.

It is driving the upper leadership in my company crazy. And their solution?

Housekeepers are now starting at $16 an hour. Starting. And we are a Union company with guaranteed wage hikes.

It’s going to cause a stock disruption, but corporations are going to pay a higher percentage of their revenue to labor. Which as been shrinking for 50 years.


 

tcslee2020

(24 posts)
17. Millennials have learned from their parents
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jun 2021

I agree with a lot of what you say. I think that the younger workers today have seen what the workforce and corporations have done to their Gen-X or Boomer parents. No more pensions. No more loyalty.

The only part I disagree with you on is that the young generation are good workers. Fast food or mall workers completely suck. The workers I've had work for me in IT suck and are completely entitled. I get it, they hate the companies they work for and feel that they are not treated right; but it does lead them to suck as employees. Obviously there are exceptions, but a lot of them suck.

obamanut2012

(26,041 posts)
19. All of my Z and younger Millenials are excellent workers
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 04:40 PM
Jun 2021

And always willing to help colleagues. I am an old GenXer, and they are a zillion times less entitled than the supermajority of my Boomer staff.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. Housekeepers here in Boston are making about $50-$60 an hour.
Mon Jun 21, 2021, 04:54 PM
Jun 2021

I have someone come in to clean my studio about once a month or so, they stay about 2 hours and charge $120, plus I tip them 20% on top of that. A lot of these people don't work for an agency either. They are freelancers.

That's pretty good money for someone who doesn't really have any special training and sometimes doesn't even speak the language.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Good. It's about time that workers finally have employers over a barrel.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:52 AM
Jun 2021

Greedy mofos. I hope that this new situation will finally give workers the upper hand in negotiating for better wages and benefits.

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