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Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:03 AM

Iran says its naval vessels have reached the Atlantic for the first time

Iran says its naval vessels have reached the Atlantic for the first time

An Iranian navy destroyer ship has reached the Atlantic Ocean, Iran's deputy army commander, Admiral Habibullah Sayyari said, according to official news agency IRNA.

Accompanied by a logistical vessel, the ship's voyage marks the first time Iran has been able to reach the Atlantic using naval vessels without docking in any international ports, Sayyari said. The ships set sail over a month ago from the port of Bandar Abbas in Iran, he added.

The ships, a destroyer named "Sahand" and a logistics vessel called "Makran," are being monitored by the US, and the intelligence community is working to assess what Iran's intentions are.

"The 77th strategic naval fleet of the Navy, comprising of the 'Sahand' destroyer and the 'Makran' ship, is present in the Atlantic Ocean for the first time to demonstrate the capabilities of Iran in the maritime arena," Sayyari said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/06/11/middleeast/iran-navy-atlantic-intl/index.html

Welcome to the Atlantic 77th strategic naval fleet; fair winds and following seas to you!

We preach freedom of navigation so I won't complain when another country exercises it.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:17 AM

1. exciting! another body of water in which they're ships can have accidents due to incompetence

June 2021 - iran's largest logistics ship burns and sinks due to onboard accident and poor damage control
May 2020 - 19 killed and a ship damaged beyond repair by friendly fire incident
Jan 2018 - Iran's Caspian sea flagship severely damaged in storm due to poor command judgement and poor damage control

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Response to Amishman (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:23 AM

2. I do wonder if

The Iranians have a speed dial for that tug that follows the Russian aircraft carrier. It is one thing to make it to the Atlantic but it is another to make it back.

Unless this is a one way trip and they will leave the destroyer with Venezuela.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:56 AM

3. You really do not want to see the list of USN incidents, including a dockside fire that ...

... that totaled an aircraft carrier, the Bonhomme Richard, just a few months ago.

Big ships is a complex and dangerous business. When the Enterprise went to sea by folding down is its antenna array to get underneath the Golden Gate Bridge just to get out far enough to turn around and get back in, it was expected there's be serious injuries and maybe a death.

There's nothing funny about enlistees getting killed at sea on ships. Or at dockside, either.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:02 PM

4. amphibious assault ship, not an aircraft carrier.

The Aircraft carriers are much larger.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:13 PM

5. Marine Air Assault Carriers are aircraft carriers ...



They are "Wasp Class" carriers based on the WWII carrier USS Wasp. Up until 80s or 90s, These assault carriers were converted WWII carriers.

From wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Bonhomme_Richard_(LHD-6)

USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6) was a Wasp-class amphibious assault ship of the United States Navy commissioned on 15 August 1998. Like the previous five Wasp-class ships, Bonhomme Richard was designed to embark, deploy and land elements of a Marine landing force in amphibious assault operations by helicopter, landing craft and amphibious vehicle, and if needed, to act as a light aircraft carrier.

Complement: 1,108


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_assault_ship

History
World War II
Akitsu Maru of the Imperial Japanese Army

In the Pacific theatre of World War II, escort carriers would often escort the landing ships and troop carriers during the island-hopping campaign. In this role, they would provide air cover for the troopships as well as fly the first wave of attacks on the beach fortifications in amphibious landing operations. On occasion, they would even escort the large carriers, serving as emergency airstrips and providing fighter cover for their larger sisters while these were busy readying or refuelling their own planes. They would also transport aircraft and spare parts from the US to the remote island airstrips.


Most early amphibious assault ships were converted from small aircraft carriers. As well as the two Colossus-class light aircraft carriers converted for use in the Suez War, the Royal Navy converted the Centaur-class carriers Albion and Bulwark into "commando carriers" during the 1950s.[9] Their sister ship HMS Hermes was also converted to a commando carrier in the early 1970s, but was restored to aircraft carrier operations before the end of the 1970s.

In the early 1950s the United States Navy and Marine Corps tested the concept of airborne amphibious operations from aircraft carriers. In 1955 the Casablanca-class escort carrier USS Thetis Bay was converted to an assault helicopter carrier (CVHA-1), ultimately re-designated LPH-6 in 1959.[10] Thetis Bay did not fully meet the Marine Corps requirements so three Essex-class aircraft carriers; Boxer, Princeton, and Valley Forge, which had greater aircraft capacity, longer range, and higher speed were converted to helicopter carriers as LPH-4, LPH-5, and LPH-8 between 1959 and 1961. They are sometimes referred to as the Boxer-class after the lead ship in the series.[11] These provided a valuable interim during the construction from 1959 to 1970 of the full complement of seven new Iwo Jima-class ships designed specifically for the landing platform helicopter role.
An AV-8 Harrier and MH-53 aboard USS Nassau

Later amphibious assault craft were constructed for the role. The United States Navy constructed the Tarawa-class of five landing helicopter assault ships, which began to enter service from the late 1970s, and the Wasp-class of eight landing helicopter dock ships, the first of which was commissioned in 1989. The United States Navy is also designing a new class of assault ships: the first America-class ship entered service in October 2014.[12]

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:26 PM

6. Aircraft carrier refers to a specific type of US Navy ship, the CVN

Ask any Naval officer or professional and they will not consider an LHD as an aircraft carrier.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 02:32 PM

7. You're half right. They're classified CVN if they're nuke. Ask an old line nuclear machinist mate ..

like me. And CV, CVL, CVE ...

It's an aircraft carrier. It carries aircraft, there's runway painted on it. The Marines on it assault from aircraft. There a flight control space, and they have arresting cables to stop newer generation fighters from over running the deck in an emergency landing.

The designation has more to do with mission than the ship.

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