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Eugene

(61,779 posts)
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:30 AM Jun 2021

Ashli Babbitt: Family of woman shot in US Capitol riot demands police files

Source: BBC

Ashli Babbitt: Family of woman shot in US Capitol riot demands police files

10 June 2021

The husband of Ashli Babbitt, the woman fatally shot by a police officer while breaching the US Capitol in January, is demanding access to files from a probe into the incident, US media report.

In a lawsuit, Aaron Babbitt has asked for Washington DC police to disclose details including files revealing the identity of the officer who shot her.

An earlier investigation found there was insufficient evidence to charge the Capitol Police officer with wrongdoing.

He has not been publicly named.

Ms Babbitt was part of a mob of Donald Trump supporters who stormed the US Capitol in Washington DC on 6 January as lawmakers gathered to validate Joe Biden's presidential election victory.

The 35-year-old was part of a group that forced entry into the chamber of the House of Representatives while it was still in session. She was confronted by plainclothes officers, and one pulled out a weapon and fired it. Ms Babbitt was declared dead at hospital shortly afterwards.

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Ashli Babbitt: Family of woman shot in US Capitol riot demands police files (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2021 OP
The lesson here is don't try to violently smash your way into a secure Federal facility. Chainfire Jun 2021 #1
She made a terrible, but criminal mistake. They can have the records as they are released in ... marble falls Jun 2021 #2
I understand they lost a family member Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #3
They smashed open a window.. Omnipresent Jun 2021 #4
The fellow terrorists arrested who were part of this attack should be charged with felony murder LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #5
Well, golly.....why do they care so much? Aren't they arguing that it was Antifa? Nevilledog Jun 2021 #6
Fuck'em... WyattKansas Jun 2021 #7
This family is not criminals playing victims. RegularJam Jun 2021 #12
It was definitely a turning point in the siege. Sneederbunk Jun 2021 #8
They just want to build a Q case on the officer. Baked Potato Jun 2021 #9
White privilege at its finest Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 #10
The difference between right wingers and us. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #11
I know her family is mourning Catherine Vincent Jun 2021 #13
They probably intend Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #14
I was thinking threaten and kill JI7 Jun 2021 #20
How about a Congressional investigation into the entire insurrection? jalan48 Jun 2021 #15
New Headline: Family of bank robber want the name of the Security guard who shot him dead malaise Jun 2021 #16
If he really wants to know what happened MissMillie Jun 2021 #17
Ashli Babbitt is the culprit responsible for the death of Ashli Babbitt LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #18
Yep. Her and Donald Trump. GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #19
... it hath been holden, that all persons, noblemen and others, except women, clergymen, persons struggle4progress Jun 2021 #21

Chainfire

(17,433 posts)
1. The lesson here is don't try to violently smash your way into a secure Federal facility.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:37 AM
Jun 2021

She wanted to be first into the space and she paid the price. To hell with her and her family.

marble falls

(56,943 posts)
2. She made a terrible, but criminal mistake. They can have the records as they are released in ...
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jun 2021

... court proceedings. Releasing those records too soon might well interfere with the fair trials of her fellow insurgents. And we would not want that to happen, would we?

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
3. I understand they lost a family member
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jun 2021

But they need to come to grips with the fact that she caused her own death.

Omnipresent

(5,672 posts)
4. They smashed open a window..
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jun 2021

Then two cowardly men hoisted her up to climb through it. Did they not know, that they were breaking and entering an area, where they could clearly see an officer with his gun drawn??

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,832 posts)
5. The fellow terrorists arrested who were part of this attack should be charged with felony murder
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jun 2021



Federal prosecutors have charged at least eight people who were in the crowd around Babbitt in the moments before she was shot. They include Christopher Ray Grider, a Texas winery owner who is accused of trying to kick in the Speaker’s Lobby doors; Zachary Jordan Alam, of Pennsylvania, who is accused of smashing the glass pane Babbitt attempted to crawl through; and Chad Barrett Jones, of Kentucky, who is accused of smashing another pane with a wood stick that had a Trump flag attached.

Authorities had suggested the possibility of bringing felony murder charges against rioters if Babbitt’s death was a foreseeable consequence of felony conduct by others, according to a person familiar with the matter. But they have since ruled out that possibility, given case law that allows such charges only in instances when an accomplice is responsible for a victim’s death, not a law enforcement officer.

D.C. police are required by law to identify officers involved in serious uses of force within five business days of an incident. They are also required to release video from body cameras of the officers directly involved. The law only applies to D.C. police. Capitol Police are not equipped with body cameras.

Nevilledog

(50,952 posts)
6. Well, golly.....why do they care so much? Aren't they arguing that it was Antifa?
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 12:07 PM
Jun 2021

Or was she the one Trump tourist in the wrong place at the wrong time?

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
7. Fuck'em...
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 12:11 PM
Jun 2021

Criminals do not get to play the victim.

And yes, EVERYONE of tRUMP's thugs on Jan. 6th who crossed where they knew damn well barriers were set up, forfeited their right to claim any innocence.

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
12. This family is not criminals playing victims.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jun 2021

They are victims. They are also seriously misguided. My heart goes out to them.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
9. They just want to build a Q case on the officer.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jun 2021

No matter his background it would be spun as a deep state operation against pool cleaners.

Caliman73

(11,719 posts)
11. The difference between right wingers and us.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jun 2021

We demand to see investigation reports and look at the records of officers involved in the killing of people who, even though they may have been committing a crime (Eric Gardner) or have a records (George Floyd), the response of the officer(s) was not commensurate with the situation. There was NO way that someone should be choked to death for selling loose cigarettes. That is a cite and release crime. You show up in court and pay a fine, or do a day in jail. Same with Floyd, EVEN IF he was knowingly passing off fake $20s and had a wrap sheet longer than my arm, there is NO way that Chauvin should have stood on his neck for 9 minutes and no other cop around thought they should intervene to prevent his death.

They demand to see the investigation reports and information on the officer who, through the video, widely available, is clearly seen in a defensive posture, behind a barricade, with multiple officers drawing their weapons, telling the crowd to cease, while insurrectionists who had already broken down other obstacles and beat fellow officers, were breaking down the door and pushing Babbitt up to get through the window, with the intention of breeching and overtaking their position.

What happened is not a cause for celebration, or a case of "comeuppance". It is a tragedy. She put herself in that situation, but multiple factors facilitated her being there, the most important of which, is a coordinated right wing media that pushes lies, stated from the very top of the government, and poisons the minds of people who may be struggling to adapt to a changing world.

Catherine Vincent

(34,486 posts)
13. I know her family is mourning
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:07 PM
Jun 2021

I am sorry this woman lost her life but they need to move on. She was trespassing and was killed. It just so happens she was the first that went through the door. If it wasn't her, it would have been someone else. Not sure why they want the officer's name.

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
15. How about a Congressional investigation into the entire insurrection?
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:16 PM
Jun 2021

I'm sure the information they want could come out as part of it.

malaise

(268,553 posts)
16. New Headline: Family of bank robber want the name of the Security guard who shot him dead
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:22 PM
Jun 2021

She was shot committing a crime. That is all

MissMillie

(38,519 posts)
17. If he really wants to know what happened
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:51 PM
Jun 2021

Tell him to call his Senator and his representative in Congress and demand a full investigation and a public hearing.

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
21. ... it hath been holden, that all persons, noblemen and others, except women, clergymen, persons
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 06:12 AM
Jun 2021

decrepit, and infants under fifteen, are bound to attend the justices in suppressing a riot, upon pain of fine and imprisonment; and that any battery, wounding, or killing the rioters, that may happen in suppressing the riot, is justifiable ...

Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England
Book the Fourth
Chapter the Eleventh
Of Offenses Against the Public Peace

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