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Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:24 AM

Sometimes, I Click to Look at Other DUers' Profiles.

That option is available to everyone on the website. Every poster's profile is just one click away.

One of the things I have noticed is that many of the "doom and gloom" posters on DU post original thread-starting posts very infrequently. They often show only about 100-200 total posts of any kind in the past 90 days. Now, I post a lot more than that, mostly replies to others' posts, but I don't expect everyone to post multiple posts every day.

However, when I see someone posting several negative thread-starting posts in just a few days that are sure to depress most DUers about the state of things in the new Biden administration, I tend to click to look at that poster's profile. It's amazing how often I discover that the poster in question isn't really very active here, and only posts once in a while. Not every negative poster fits into that category, but many do.

That gives me some pause. It makes me wonder. So, I check sometimes.

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Reply Sometimes, I Click to Look at Other DUers' Profiles. (Original post)
MineralMan Jun 9 OP
Firestorm49 Jun 9 #1
MineralMan Jun 9 #2
Lars39 Jun 9 #3
Goodheart Jun 9 #4
MineralMan Jun 9 #6
Goodheart Jun 9 #8
Demsrule86 Jun 9 #12
Goodheart Jun 9 #13
Demsrule86 Jun 9 #16
MineralMan Jun 9 #20
Goodheart Jun 9 #25
MineralMan Jun 9 #27
WarGamer Jun 9 #39
c-rational Jun 9 #5
MineralMan Jun 9 #9
malaise Jun 9 #7
krawhitham Jun 9 #10
Goodheart Jun 9 #11
Demsrule86 Jun 9 #14
Demsrule86 Jun 9 #15
MineralMan Jun 9 #17
Hortensis Jun 9 #33
MineralMan Jun 9 #34
Hortensis Jun 9 #35
MineralMan Jun 9 #18
11 Bravo Jun 9 #19
MineralMan Jun 9 #21
11 Bravo Jun 9 #30
MineralMan Jun 9 #31
11 Bravo Jun 9 #32
Elessar Zappa Jun 9 #22
MineralMan Jun 9 #24
MenloParque Jun 9 #23
MineralMan Jun 9 #26
GoodRaisin Jun 9 #28
MineralMan Jun 9 #29
GoodRaisin Jun 9 #37
bigtree Jun 9 #36
LanternWaste Jun 9 #38
bluewater Jun 9 #40
Raine Jun 9 #41

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:37 AM

1. It comes with the turf.

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Response to Firestorm49 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:37 AM

2. So it seems.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:40 AM

3. Not sure you can go by that...I'm in that category now.

I read/lurk more than I post these days. There have been other times in my life where I was very chatty.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:42 AM

4. Has it occurred to you that such posters might actually be generally CONTENT

but only feel the need to speak out when they see an incongruity in justice or policy that has riled or worried them? Is there REALLY a need to be constantly PARROTING what everybody else is saying?

And, what's the PURPOSE behind your post?

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:44 AM

6. Many things occur to me.

I also have a very good memory.

As for my purpose in posting, I will leave you to figure that out for yourself.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:45 AM

8. Oh, I've figured it out.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:48 AM

12. I think MM is wondering why some only post the negative guaranteed to depress the vote.

during the midterms. How is that helpful? We will never get everything we want and we have a very small majority, the smallest possible. And why since moderates gave us the House and Senate do we suppose they should have no role in legislation? In order to hold power, one must win elections.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:51 AM

13. The two big points of contention in the past week have been Joe Manchin and Merrick Garland

You think gridlock and status quo help to win elections?

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:03 PM

16. I think attacking Democratic Senators even moderate ones and the Biden administration

ensures we lose elections. It depresses the vote. Most can understand that Justice does things for various reasons that many of us don't understand and must be independent. Also, Sen. Manchin represents a state that had the highest vote spread between Biden and Trump in 20. We need Joe Manchin in order to have any sort of majority. And I would remind you, we would not have the ACA without Joe Manchin's vote.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:16 PM

20. Joe Manchin consistently votes with the Senate Democratic Caucus

Very occasionally, he does not. On such issues, we should be encouraging him to change his mind, not attacking him as though he were a Republican, it seems to me. So far, this term, he has voted 100% for measures introduced by the Biden administration and other Democratic Senators.

As for Merrick Garland, we hear little from him with regard to the doings of the DOJ. That is standard practice. The DOJ does not discuss active cases under investigation. Instead, it calls Grand Juries when it has evidence it believes will lead to an indictment and conviction. That is the DOJ's standard practice. During the previous administration, that was not the case, however. I don't think we need to model the DOJ after the previous administration, do you?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:28 PM

25. Why would I think so?

Disagreeing with Garland's stasis is not remotely the same as wanting to model the DOJ after the previous administration.

As for the larger question here, if democraticundergound is supposed to be a rah-rah site only I was not informed, and certainly would have stayed away. I thought it was a discussion board, and hope that I was correct.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #25)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:32 PM

27. Did I suggest that it only be a "rah-rah" site?

I don't remember doing that.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 06:01 PM

39. Frankly I don't think ANYTHING posted here can/will depress the vote.

This tiny section of the population here votes at around a 99.99% clip...

My theory is just that some people prefer DU to be a land of cotton candy clouds and hard candy rainbows and prefer others not to "harsh their buzz"...

Even if the harshness comes from telling the truth.

And that's not a bad thing... DU was formed as a peaceful respite from a REALLY bad time in US political history and one can't be blamed for wanting NOTHING to due with the Shrub or Trump years.

But that's just my theory.

YMMV.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:42 AM

5. Noted and agreed MineralMan. We should all realize that what we think and what we say effects

our moods and outcomes. A single case of fear in troops can lead to ruin. Some 'dwellers' recognize this and use it to our disadvantage. As to why these tactics are typically used by the right I will leave to others. I believe it is best to focus on what you want, not what you fear.

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Response to c-rational (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:45 AM

9. I agree. If we look for ways to shift things in a positive direction,

we get results like those we had in Georgia in 2020, it seems to me.

I'd like to see more of that, actually.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:45 AM

7. A well needed OP

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:46 AM

10. So you must have no life except DU in order to have an opinion that matters on DU, GOT IT

Only 200 posts in 90 days? Are you kidding me? So you have to basically live on DU or your opinion does not matter WTF

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:47 AM

11. Add to that that there are feel good sites all over the net.

I feel sometimes that some posters here would be happier on pinterest than to be challenged in their orthodoxy.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:52 AM

14. This is Democratic Underground and people should remember that. It is not about 'feel good' but

about supporting the Democratic Party and its members...including both progressive members and moderate to conservative members. We need everyone. And both Sinema and Manchin have been bashed repeatedly here which should never happen.

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 11:56 AM

15. And what many of us know is that some with low numbers who only post negative content are sometimes

but not always here to disrupt or have some other agenda. I believe there are very few of them.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:06 PM

17. Yes. Very Few.

However, in difficult times, it's easy to reinforce worries and despair in others. That's the issue, really.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 02:57 PM

33. Yup. Stakes are enormous, and for a few depressing turnout is the point.

Poisonous social media manipulation of elections can be extremely effective, with potentially huge returns for very little cost. As we know.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #33)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 03:53 PM

34. Yes. Sadly, too many people are easily discouraged from voting.

If they think their vote doesn't count, they don't bother to vote at all, and we lose.

That is a real challenge we have to face and conquer.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #34)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 04:46 PM

35. Somehow to inspire more to stand up for what they

say they believe in.

And every election I find myself wishing we could trade some our invertebrate moralists for the right's amoral attack dogs who'll vote for anything for their team. At least when it's time to step up they're worth their spit to someone.

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:08 PM

18. Everyone's opinion matters.

It's important to think about the opinions of others, and to check the facts they use to support their opinions, too. Thinking and checking are always important.

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:12 PM

19. You equate slightly more than two posts per day as "basically living on DU"?

Welcome to this week's edition of Short Attention Span Theater.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:21 PM

21. The number of posts in a profile is a total of all posts,

whether they are OPs or replies to other posts. It's a little more difficult to break out how many OPs a person has posted in a given period of time.

However, looking at someone's post count can provide an indication of the level of participation a person has on DU. Anyone can weigh that information as they choose. It's a discussion forum, after all, right?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 02:27 PM

30. Check the post to which I was responding.

The inference there was that 200 posts in 90 days constitutes "living on DU".
I was voicing my disagreement with that assessment.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 02:36 PM

31. Thanks. I saw that. I was just agreeing with you.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #31)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 02:39 PM

32. No problem. I was trying to agree with YOU, and thought I might have been unclear.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:26 PM

22. I don't mind

realistic assessments of our political situation but I do wonder about people who always post negative stuff. It could be the personís a pessimist or it could be something else, I donít know.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:27 PM

24. It's just something to think about.

Thinking is good, it seems to me.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:27 PM

23. So many accounts!

I work 1O-12 hour days and travel for work non-stop even during the pandemic. Just not enough time in the day to be active on all platforms. Other platforms I am much more active such as Twitter. I believe many may be just like me. Read, lurk, maybe comment on 1% of posts I read, then forget about this place for a week or two, then repeat. Also, I feel like this place needs to get a handle on posters posting the same fucking thing. Itís sickening. And then two days after some breaking news, oblivious poster will post OMG LOOK AT THIS!! I do admit Negative posts are like car crashes for me, I gotta look!!

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Response to MenloParque (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:30 PM

26. Well, I'm not talking about posters who mostly just read on DU.

Nor am I talking about posters who reply now and then in some thread. Not at all. Everyone chooses his or her own level of participation on sites they visit.

That's not what I'm talking about at all. Most DUers are primarily readers, rather than posters.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:38 PM

28. I'm surprised sometimes those negative OP's don't get alerted.

I don't like to alert, but there are so many that do it is surprising that many of those posts reach maturity.

I only remember alerting twice the entire time I've been here and both were low post count, troll situations where the poster was an obvious right wing troll who had slipped in.

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Response to GoodRaisin (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 12:47 PM

29. Like you, I don't alert on posts as a rule.

I often get called to jury duty, though, on posts. I rarely vote to hide posts. Unless they clearly break the rule that was cited, I vote to leave them.

There is no rule against negative OPs, actually, so there's no reason to hide such posts, in my opinion.

I'm not calling for that in any way. I'm calling on people to think about such posts, check the facts, and consider who is posting them. When I see doom and gloom posts from people who rarely post on DU, I tend to dismiss such posts entirely. That is the point of my thread-starter in this thread.

We all have the means to check a poster's posting history. I consider that to be one of the factors people should think about, along with the post's accuracy and logical basis. That is what I am suggesting in my OP.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #29)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 05:11 PM

37. Yea, I pretty much handle

jury duty like yourself. Any post, for me to vote against, it has to clearly break the rule. Opinions like, how Merck Garland is doing as AG as an example, should be allowed to stand and to be discussed openly.

My only real exception to that rule when on jury is when a poster is personally attacked and that attack gets alerted. If I see the attack was provoked, which is often, I let the alerted post stand too.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 04:49 PM

36. so many motivations for posting, I don't think you can tell by a post count

...so few with ill intent, as you acknowledge.

This has the feel of a witch hunt.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 05:57 PM

38. That's a unique and insightful fancy unto fancy!!!

this age will collide with the pillar stumps of science and melancholy is a growth like tumor in the heads of those that gaze with wonder from above.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #38)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 06:03 PM

40. I had no idea that poet Pablo Saborio posted here on DU

https://beyondlanguagepoetry.com/tag/science/


Science from Above

They found a bulge
between Amaliegade
and Esplanaden
and it was in the news

and the hearts
shook with dread

a long sack of skin.like flesh
growing from a thin string
into an enormous
bulk

a man stood drinking the ship
in a circle of dizziness

the lights of police
and the endless of an image

no one could understand the revolution
and beauty of the bulge

it was hauled off the street
like a rainbow
as a miracle of the flame
as heresy from our pedestrian slopes

factories puffing shades
roaring with flags and chords
of iron ringing
in the suburbs

it is pronounced that this age
will collide with the pillar
stumps of science

and melancholy is a growth
like tumor
in the heads of those
that gaze with wonder
from above.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 9, 2021, 06:35 PM

41. I don't start threads that are either positive or negative

I read and reply on other people's threads. 🤔

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