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Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:26 PM

Kos: Republicans "forget" that Trump fired embedded CDC observer in China months before the outbreak



Quick eveybody look @ Anthony Fauci. He is the bad guy.

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Lab leak theory? Itís quite possible. Canít trust the Chinese government to tell us the truth about anything, least of all the nature of their coronavirus research or any accidents involving it.

But you know who could have been in the best possible position to inform the US about it many months ahead of the pandemic? The China-embedded CDC epidemiologist who was fired by the Trump administration in July, 2019, thatís who. Iím referring to Dr. Linda Quick, the only person on the ground in China for the US working in this capacity at all. And she was never replaced ó ever. Her position was eliminated as collateral damage during Trumpís trade war with China.

Do you remember Rand Paul or Tom Cotton or any other Trump water carrier protesting Quickís firing at the time ó or at any other time? I sure as hell donít.

So Trump, knowing that China couldnít be trusted on anything, apparently seemed to trust them just enough not to have anyone keep tabs on their virus research. And the GOP seemed to have no problems with this, either.

Maybe itís time to remind the American public about all this, eh? Especially just before the next campaign cycle.



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/6/6/2033874/-Republicans-forget-that-Trump-fired-embedded-CDC-observer-in-China-months-before-the-outbreak?detail=emaildkre2

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Reply Kos: Republicans "forget" that Trump fired embedded CDC observer in China months before the outbreak (Original post)
Botany Jun 7 OP
spanone Jun 7 #1
Botany Jun 7 #4
lagomorph777 Jun 7 #7
Botany Jun 7 #12
RainCaster Jun 7 #17
Botany Jun 7 #13
Permanut Jun 7 #25
LiberalLovinLug Jun 8 #33
lagomorph777 Jun 8 #39
exboyfil Jun 7 #2
JHB Jun 7 #3
RVN VET71 Jun 7 #23
JHB Jun 7 #24
lagomorph777 Jun 7 #5
uponit7771 Jun 7 #16
abqtommy Jun 7 #6
former9thward Jun 7 #8
Brother Buzz Jun 7 #10
LanternWaste Jun 8 #38
Blue Owl Jun 7 #9
Mr.Bill Jun 7 #11
Botany Jun 7 #14
brewens Jun 7 #15
peppertree Jun 7 #18
speak easy Jun 7 #26
peppertree Jun 7 #27
speak easy Jun 8 #31
moondust Jun 7 #19
Caliman73 Jun 8 #36
moondust Jun 8 #37
Lonestarblue Jun 7 #20
Botany Jun 7 #21
SleeplessinSoCal Jun 7 #22
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 8 #29
SleeplessinSoCal Jun 8 #30
LetMyPeopleVote Jun 8 #28
BobTheSubgenius Jun 8 #32
Justice matters. Jun 8 #34
Caliman73 Jun 8 #35
Botany Jun 8 #40

Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:29 PM

1. It appears the media has 'forgotten' it too. Haven't heard it mentioned since the pandemic started.

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Response to spanone (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:35 PM

4. Trump:

Got rid of the global pandemic task force in 2017
Fired the CDC's epidemiologist who was on the ground in Wuhan, China
Withdraw us from an international agency called PREDICT that was looking for future "problems"
Was told of the C-19 virus and the coming pandemic in the fall of 2019 and did nothing
except for investing in HQC and his own C-19 test kits
And sold 18 tons of PPE to China in Feb. 2020 which killed and or sickened thousands of Drs, nurses,
techs, first res-ponders, and patients too.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:42 PM

7. What an amazing series of coincidences.



Trump committed premeditated genocide. Why is this not the media narrative?

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:23 PM

12. Haven't you heard that Hillary tipped off the terrorists...

... in Benghazi with her emails to Anthony Fauci.

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Response to Botany (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:49 PM

17. Wasn't Bowling Green messed up in this?

Asking for friends

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 10:00 PM

25. All the details are on Hunter Biden's hard drive.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 04:01 PM

33. Not to mention the genocide of 250,000 Americans

I'm speaking of the estimated number of Americans who would have been alive today, after getting COVID, and died, as a result of Trumps non leadership and no national plan.

According to experts, 40% of America's deaths were avoidable if the US had simply been doing on par with other western democracies. To date, almost 600,000 deaths. That means something like 250,000 Americans....fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, sisters, brothers....could have still been alive today.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy

If some leader, in any country, had purposely through denial, let happen a mass poisoning, or foreign invasion, happen to his country, and a quarter million citizens died as a result, he'd be lucky to not escape being hanged.

I don't know why this damning fact is not publicized more.


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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #33)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 07:14 PM

39. That 40% estimate is ridiculously low, if you look at how civilized countries performed.

We had five times the average death rate of the world. Probably fifty times higher than the best-performing countries. We certainly had the capability to be top-tier. So I think it is entirely reasonable to say Trump is responsible for 98% of our deaths, and the clock did not stop on January 20th. Biden inherited Trump's plague, and has acted heroically to stop it - he can't be blamed for the state he inherited, nor for the millions of Trumpist idiots who continue to spread the plague.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:31 PM

2. Also got rid of the White House pandemic response team

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:31 PM

3. What's with Republican "businessman politicians" always taking the salesman at their word?

I noticed that with Romney about the factory in China in the 47% video, and Trump has provided multiple examples ("Putin said he didn't do it." )

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Response to JHB (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:33 PM

23. At a Chinese factory where the workers barracks were fenced with barbed wire and razor wire

and gated with heavy, locked steel gates, Romney asked what all the fencing, the barbed wire, etc., were for. He was told -- and this is not fiction because that chateau-draft-dodge said it, himself -- he was told that the jobs in the factory were in such demand that the fencing was necessary to keep out the people trying to get in and steal a job!

And Romneyís reaction, and this is a paraphrase of what he said, was to praise the factory as an example of a great capitalistic success because the workers were clearly treated excellently for so many outsiders to want to sneak in. I really do not believe that Romney believed what he, himself, said. Not in his heart of hearts (if he even has one). But he liked the sound of it because he knew when he told the plutocratic fascists back home theyíd just applaud and cheer.

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Response to RVN VET71 (Reply #23)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 08:51 PM

24. It's what he was feeding that group of Republicans who no dout consider themselves savvy investors

But let's not forget something else: He really believed that 47% bullshit, about people just wanting the government to "take care of them" with handouts. His grousing after the election about "people who just want stuff" was proof of that.

He knows a bit about once all credits and deductions are factored in you may not have an income tax liability. But, like plenty of conservatives, once something is a half-step removed from their personal contact, they snap to stereotypes. "People who just want stuff."


So he swallowed one line of horseshit because he wanted to. I'm not all that sure he didn't swallow the other one too. It was what he wanted to hear.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:41 PM

5. Not a coincidence. Trump deliberately laid the groundwork for disaster.

He should be charged with genocide.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:37 PM

16. +1, Even if it was on accident it's genocidal

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:41 PM

6. +100 Thanks, and bookmarked.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:46 PM

8. No one was embedded at the Wuhan laboratory.

That lab was/is controlled by the Chinese military and the government has allowed no one to go inside.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:07 PM

10. Not in the lab, but she was embedded in China's disease control agency

Kinda like 50% of everything, or a 100% of nothing.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 07:13 PM

38. Taking issue with a word rather than the premise again, eh?

I get it.

It's five o'clock somewhere. Skoal!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 04:47 PM

9. If the COVID threat occurred during Obama's term...

It would have been nipped so early in the bud that it would have never escalated into a pandemic that shut the nation down for 1-2 years. tRump, in his arrogance, stupidity, foolishness, and lack of real leadership, was the reason it got out of control. tRump caused the deaths of over 600,000 Americans, serious health problems for millions more, job losses for tens of millions more, and ruined our economy.

How the fucking M$M doesn't paint him as an incompetent, dangerous fool is beyond me.

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:12 PM

11. Yes. Always remind the republicans

how many people died in the USA from the Ebola virus. Two.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:26 PM

14. And both of the 2 got the disease outside the country

Although, Trump still called for Obama to resign over the 2 deaths.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 05:28 PM

15. Yup. Even though they play games with those people, even when they are blocked from looking

at something, that is useful information. They are also around if anyone gets the nerve to blow the whistle. There is no downside to having observers on the job.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 06:07 PM

18. And that he reported the looming threat of pandemic in EARLY NOVEMBER 2019

but only to Israel and NATO - as reported by the Times of Israel.

Why is that?

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Response to peppertree (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 10:10 PM

26. No so.

In early November there were scattered cases of atypical pneumonia being observed in Wuhan - but nothing concrete at all.

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Response to speak easy (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 10:21 PM

27. That's what was PUBLICLY known - but as the Times of Israel reported, Cheeto knew much more

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Response to peppertree (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 10:52 AM

31. There is nothing in the report says the Israelis knew what it was.

The best guess was viral pneumonia, as tests for bacterium were coming back negative. As the Times article states - there was evidence consistent with an 'emerging disease', but until the pathogen was sequenced, it was only speculation.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 06:41 PM

19. Who told him to do that?

TFG didn't know the CDC from the CIA. Did he just order ALL Americans to leave China? Or did some adviser tell him to do that to the CDC person specifically?

Putting that piece together with other pieces like disbanding the NSC pandemic unit and acknowledging the deadly virus to Bob Woodward early on but then consistently denying it to the public--very suspicious timeline that warrants investigation and potentially prosecution for genocide.

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Response to moondust (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 06:29 PM

36. Unknown, but he was actually bragging about the firing and pulling the team out.

It may have been one of those "Destroying Obama's legacy" issues that he was all hard for. This actually happened in 2018 if I am not mistaken. He said that he didn't want to "wasted money" and what good was it to be paying people to do nothing. Well, a couple trillion dollars and 600,000 dead Americans later, THAT IS WHAT WE WERE PAYING THEM FOR.

I agree that it warrants the investigation, but it is very unlikely to happen. So poisoned is the political landscape that rightfully holding this ASS accountable for the very real and very costly decisions he made to mismanage this pandemic, will be seen as "political" actions and not the "Justice" that it would be.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 07:09 PM

37. July 2019

Her position was to be discontinued in September 2019 so she left in July according to: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-cdc-cut-health-expert-job-china-months-before-coronavirus-2020-3

The timing still looks suspicious.

If all law enforcement and prosecutions are reduced to "political actions" rather than "justice" then nobody will ever go to prison and all the criminals in the country will be lawless Republiqans following the example of TFG.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 06:58 PM

20. What breaks my heart is the millions who might not have died had Trump not fired Dr. Quick.

Not noy did Trump fire Dr. Quick, he also cut funding for a virus detection and early alert program in China (funded through USAID) as part of his war against China. With Dr. Quick on duty and the USAID team in place, the virus might have been prevented from becoming a pandemic. We do not know that, of course, but Trumpís response to the virus in this country is not in doubtóit resulted in thousands more unnecessary deaths due to his incompetence and his politicization of the virus. He is a murderer.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 07:42 PM

21. "What breaks my heart is the millions who might not have died had Trump not" ....

... been installed by Russia.

Obama left the personal, the protocols, the materials, and the international agreements
that in all likely hood would have stopped the virus in China. Trump got rid of all of that
because they were "the black guy's ideas."

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 07:49 PM

22. the elimination of that job is one reason they make up ridiculous theories.

How do we ever get back to fact based discussion on urgent matters with people like Marjorie Taylor Greene in Congress?

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 02:39 AM

29. It can't be done with people like her.

It would be like Galileo continuing to waste his time trying to explain the reasoning of the heliocentric model to pompous inquisitors accusing him of heresy for it.

Anyone who rocks their narcissism even slightly, whether it's a viewpoint of Earth being at the center of the Universe, or a viewpoint that the USA and Bible are the greatest country and book throughout all of history, is demonized by them.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #29)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 03:15 AM

30. But you have to fight them. There is only 1/3 of us willing to go along with Crazy.

If we don't fight back with truth and expose the corruption we may see a growth in that number.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 02:04 AM

28. We would know a great deal more if the former guy had not fired this observer

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 12:18 PM

32. Damn right!!!

I'd have been totally onboard with calling it The Drumpf Virus. I'd have referred to it in no other way, and enthusiastically, had that been adopted. It used to set my teeth on edge whenever I heard him bite off the words "CHIna Virus."

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 06:11 PM

34. Kick (too late to R but still R)

Lock dRumpf up.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 06:18 PM

35. One of the 1000 intervention points that could have lessened COVID effects.

Trump and the GOP want to blame China for their own stupidity, malice, and incompetence. I think that it is important to find out where the virus came from for several reasons. If China leaked it out of negligence, then we need to tighten international protocols for handling viruses in labs. If they did it on purpose, then they need to be held accountable. If it happened naturally and spread as a result of secrecy and lack of quick response, then that needs to be addressed too.

What ALSO needs to be addressed are the 1000 ways which the Trump administration COULD HAVE BUT FAILED TO react in ways that South Korea, Canada, New Zealand, Vietnam, Australia, and other countries did where the virus did not have the devastating impact and death toll that the US did. Our leaders failed to act competently to protect us NO MATTER WHAT the origins of the virus were.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #35)

Tue Jun 8, 2021, 07:32 PM

40. + 1000

Vietnam a country of 90 million people right next to China has had something like 35 deaths.
My county alone (Fanklin in OH) has had almost 1,500 deaths.

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