HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Timothy Snyder: The big l...

Sat Jun 5, 2021, 11:16 PM

Timothy Snyder: The big lie is designed not to win an election, but to discredit one.

Last edited Sun Jun 6, 2021, 02:46 PM - Edit history (1)



Tweet text:
Timothy Snyder
@TimothyDSnyder
"If your platform is that elections do not work, you are saying that you intend to come to power some other way. The big lie is designed not to win an election, but to discredit one."

9/11 and 1/6
How an American nightmare becomes real
snyder.substack.com
4:07 PM Jun 5, 2021


https://snyder.substack.com/p/911-and-16

A moment ago I awoke from a nightmare about 9/11.

I was visiting the Empire State Building in New York when an airplane crashed into it from the side. The whole building buckled for a moment, then nothing else seemed to happen. I was by myself, without any friends or family, and I just ran down to the exit, staircase after staircase. Getting out was the thing to do. But no one else was doing it.

I think this sense of inertia during an emergency was something that stayed with me from the real 9/11, when the World Trade Center was attacked. When the first building was hit, it was somehow not clear that the second building should also be evacuated.

In my dream about the Empire State Building, there was no siren. When I got to the lobby, people were just milling around, and all of the doors were closed and locked. There seemed to be no way out. One handicapped entrance was opened for a moment, to allow a woman in a wheelchair to come in. In the dream, I felt a little guilty as I squeezed by her and went the wrong way through the door. The doors closed again. No one else left the building. My example did not make a difference. They were all going to die.

I somehow ended up in a nearby building, some kind of tourist center where people waited before entering the Empire State Building. Inside was a group of senior citizens, waiting for a tour of the building. I tried to explain to them what was happening. If people would not leave the Empire State Building, at least more should not go in.

*snip*


Changed title

5 replies, 1477 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 5 replies Author Time Post
Reply Timothy Snyder: The big lie is designed not to win an election, but to discredit one. (Original post)
Nevilledog Jun 5 OP
WhiteTara Jun 5 #1
Nevilledog Jun 6 #2
Nevilledog Jun 6 #3
onetexan Jun 7 #4
Johnny2X2X Jun 7 #5

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Sat Jun 5, 2021, 11:49 PM

1. I had a dream many years ago

we were all cattle and were being driven to the slaughter line and as we were pushed forward, the path became narrower. I kept turning and running to the back of the herd. That's the best that we can do, I think. Keep running to the back of the herd and live another day.

I think you had a survival dream.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Sun Jun 6, 2021, 11:11 AM

2. Kick

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Sun Jun 6, 2021, 02:46 PM

3. Double kick / new title

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 03:04 PM

4. This was read at the opening of Morning Joe show this morning- paints a very grim & worrying picture

which i hope they will not succeed at doing given nothing motivates people to head to the polls than the con himself:

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/06/07/gop-trump-fail-2022.html?fbclid=IwAR0OU-M3Zds4zGzxE-ZcY090rwbq2df7JC1c8GEFR7_GVgbeTnvZM31GJQ8
"Trump is a stronger motivator of Democrats and anti-Trumpers than Republicans. Traditionally, the party out of power has done well by making the midterm election a referendum on the incumbent president. McCarthy and McConnell are abandoning that strategy by relitigating 2020, and history suggests that the result could be another Democratic victory in 2022."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Mon Jun 7, 2021, 03:08 PM

5. Undermining Democracy both ways

They've convinced 1/2 the country that the last election was rigged. Now they're making laws to convince the other other half of the country the next election will be rigged.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread