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Justice matters.

(6,927 posts)
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:08 AM Jun 2021

Fox News Host Calls for Vladimir Putin to Kill Joe Biden

Last edited Sat Jun 5, 2021, 01:11 AM - Edit history (1)




Last month, President Joe Biden announced that he will attend a summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Geneva, Switzerland on June 16th.

...

But on Thursday, Fox News propagandist Greg Gutfield shared his vision. He would like to see Putin assassinate Biden.

“Do you think he should hold a summit? Should he meet with Putin?” The Five panelist Harold Ford Jr. asked Gutfield.



Secret Service Agents should go knock on that a-hole's door and put him under arrest!

Lock him up (and shut down fux $nooze!)
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Fox News Host Calls for Vladimir Putin to Kill Joe Biden (Original Post) Justice matters. Jun 2021 OP
Who owns Fox News? The money investors. I'll bet that Putin. MBS, and Erdogan all have stakes OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2021 #1
Fox Corp. CEO Lachlan Murdoch Heads To Australia As Fox News Faces Headwinds Justice matters. Jun 2021 #3
Fox needs to be seen for destroying our democracy. The mess we're in is on them. BComplex Jun 2021 #28
I didn't click through to the story. What were his words? Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #2
Video on Crooks and Liars Justice matters. Jun 2021 #5
Sorry, I'm not someplace where I can do that (video) Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #8
Pretty damn serious. I wish there was a minute more of that to hear where it goes, walked back? marble falls Jun 2021 #44
My mouth just dropped to the freekin floor... scardycat Jun 2021 #47
Sure does sound like a tipping point. When you parrot the Republican lies to the point OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2021 #7
From the link: billh58 Jun 2021 #21
It was pretty blatant. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #31
Way far down the rabbit hole, bonkers, crazy...and treasonous. WTF is happening? Hekate Jun 2021 #4
Half of the GQP are Russian agents. SergeStorms Jun 2021 #10
it has always seemed this way llashram Jun 2021 #19
They've been grooming Trump for 30+ years. SergeStorms Jun 2021 #32
Quisling??? homegirl Jun 2021 #33
Hmmm. Can't help wishing he would. Otoh, do you really think Hortensis Jun 2021 #49
Hillary tried to warn us. triron Jun 2021 #20
She sure did, but until Trump actually took office I never imagined the rot that enabled him... Hekate Jun 2021 #23
Neither did I. triron Jun 2021 #38
If Kathy GRIFFIN was investigated for a pic, GUTFELD should be for this. UTUSN Jun 2021 #6
Excellent point, UT. rec, nt. Mc Mike Jun 2021 #53
+1,000,000 Dawson Leery Jun 2021 #66
Fox News the network of traitors rockfordfile Jun 2021 #9
& inciting Assassins & Domestic Terrorists. Cha Jun 2021 #11
Fuck Ford. WTF, Ford. For Fucks-Sake, Edsel! czarjak Jun 2021 #12
Yep. I was just thinking Ford must be happy to be signed on to this. Bad career move. Midnight Writer Jun 2021 #13
How much does it cost to sellout though? Begs the question. czarjak Jun 2021 #14
Where is the line? BadgerMom Jun 2021 #15
The idea itself is just stupid... ExciteBike66 Jun 2021 #16
No one at FOX cares about this country or its people. They care about wealth they generate by joetheman Jun 2021 #17
Oh my! You have to watch the video to believe it. JohnnyRingo Jun 2021 #18
Fox "news" needs to be severely sanctioned for this, perhaps having their puditry shut down. hadEnuf Jun 2021 #22
I'm no lawyer, but it's almost certainly protected speech. Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #61
Im no lawyer either, but like I said, find a way. hadEnuf Jun 2021 #63
I'm not at all in favor of doing an end run around the First Amendment. N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #64
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2021 #65
Fox isn't a First Amendment kind of place. hadEnuf Jun 2021 #71
Well, then you need to file a lawsuit claiming as such MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2021 #72
Yeah, that's the fighting spirit. "I'll" file a lawsuit and see how far it gets "me". hadEnuf Jun 2021 #73
As I said............. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2021 #74
Gutfield? Isn't he a "comedian"? Making a fascist "joke"? RVN VET71 Jun 2021 #24
After he said that, he did a thumbs up...asshat n/t scardycat Jun 2021 #48
The sad thing is none of these tools will ever understand RVN VET71 Jun 2021 #51
goddammit...enough of this shit... bahboo Jun 2021 #25
Examples like this are precisely why Biden and Garland need to kick it into high gear. Firestorm49 Jun 2021 #26
+a billion. kacekwl Jun 2021 #57
Why isn't the DOJ on top of this? This is f*cking not okay. wow..... FlyingPiggy Jun 2021 #27
I'm all for shutting down Fox News, but not for this 70sEraVet Jun 2021 #29
fox and their people are loyal to Putin and the Kremlin samsingh Jun 2021 #30
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #43
Nothing will happen, nothing ever does TxGuitar Jun 2021 #34
Did Father Coughlin ever ask Hitler to assassinate FDR? DBoon Jun 2021 #35
Fux news could have their hosts defecating on air mdbl Jun 2021 #36
That's basically what Gutfeld does. GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author I of the Eye Jun 2021 #37
Is there a link to this claim ? left-of-center2012 Jun 2021 #39
And while they're at it. . . I of the Eye Jun 2021 #40
Hi uppityperson Jun 2021 #41
Yo I of the Eye Jun 2021 #56
Gutfield! Try this on: President Kamala Harris. Grins Jun 2021 #42
The inability to respond to this type of propaganda is critical. olegramps Jun 2021 #45
You are aware that the Fairness Doctrine would have absolutely no effect on Fox? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2021 #46
Thanks, I would like it to be extended in it practice to cover any MM with license requirements. olegramps Jun 2021 #59
I don't see this reported elsewhere, and you'd think it would be Hortensis Jun 2021 #50
Didn't this kind of speech, once upon a time, get a visit from the FBI? dhol82 Jun 2021 #52
If Harold Ford Jr. had any integrity or character, he immediately would have responded with alarm... Pachamama Jun 2021 #54
Why in hell is he allowed to get away with this??? Alien Life Form Jun 2021 #55
Did bdamomma Jun 2021 #58
Kick ck4829 Jun 2021 #60
Under the current interpretation of the First Amendment, this is almost certainly protected speech. Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #62
.... MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2021 #67
Yep, that saying used to be the standard regarding freedom of expression. Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #68
But isn't calling for the dissolution of Fox News also free and protected speech though? ck4829 Jun 2021 #75
You can call for it all you like. Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #76
Secret Service? Hello? Initech Jun 2021 #70

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
1. Who owns Fox News? The money investors. I'll bet that Putin. MBS, and Erdogan all have stakes
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:12 AM
Jun 2021

in this propaganda network.

Justice matters.

(6,927 posts)
3. Fox Corp. CEO Lachlan Murdoch Heads To Australia As Fox News Faces Headwinds
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:15 AM
Jun 2021
Lachlan Murdoch, the Fox Corp. CEO and executive chairman, has departed Los Angeles and returned to Australia with his wife and children, according to three people with ties to the Murdoch family.

His move comes at a time when the company's most profitable property is confronting daunting challenges: Fox News currently faces two new defamation lawsuits from election machine and software companies seeking combined damages of $4.3 billion.


Exiled to Australia...

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/30/982713877/fox-corp-ceo-lachlan-murdoch-heads-to-australia-as-fox-news-struggles

BComplex

(8,046 posts)
28. Fox needs to be seen for destroying our democracy. The mess we're in is on them.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jun 2021

Propaganda is a very dangerous form of "free speech", and the Constitution needs to be changed to make sure that anything calling itself "news" does not help our enemies destroy our country.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
2. I didn't click through to the story. What were his words?
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:14 AM
Jun 2021

If it was blatant, I'd love to see them do more than knock on his door. How about a nice 16-hour chat in a very small concrete room in a basement?

To start with, anyway.


OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
7. Sure does sound like a tipping point. When you parrot the Republican lies to the point
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:20 AM
Jun 2021

that you are calling for a US President's assassination by the Russians. Arrest this asshole for sedition.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
21. From the link:
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jun 2021
But on Thursday, Fox News propagandist Greg Gutfield shared his vision. He would like to see Putin assassinate Biden.

“Do you think he should hold a summit? Should he meet with Putin?” The Five panelist Harold Ford Jr. asked Gutfield.

Gutfield creepily suggested that Putin may have sinister plans for his encounter with Biden.

“Yeah I gotta disagree. If he holds firm, you know, there’s going to be something we can get out of this. There’s going to be something If Putin decides to have them killed. That’s something. You know? It’s possible,” Gutfeld replied while giving his fantasy a thumbs-up.

Fox then immediately went to commercial – because what else can they do after one of their bobbleheads gleefully calls for a foreign dictator to murder the American president?

https://hillreporter.com/fox-news-host-calls-for-vladimir-putin-to-kill-joe-biden-102824?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


Caliman73

(11,733 posts)
31. It was pretty blatant.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jun 2021

I went into the idea of watching the video with skepticism because of all the click bait that is out there. He said, "If we stand firm, then I see it as something we can get something out of.... Then said, "If Putin decides to have them all killed...That's something!" and he gave a Thumbs Up gesture.

No other way to really see this than Gutfeld being supportive of the idea of Putin ordering the killing of Biden or reps of the administration.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
10. Half of the GQP are Russian agents.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 01:39 AM
Jun 2021

Not just Russian sympathizers Russian agents, with Donald Trump as the lead agent. They're actively following orders and gathering intelligence for Vladimir Putin.

They see Russia as the ideal country. Men, white men, are in charge, women know their place, it's an authoritarian society, and there are few POC in the population. It's a republican's dream, just like the GQP halcyon days of pre-WWII America.

In other words, they're freaking crazy, and they'd sell out the U.S. in a heartbeat just to turn back the clock. They want a regressive society where they control every aspect of society and government. This, from the "small government", no government interference republicans who never shut up about it.

They love Russia. Simple as that.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
19. it has always seemed this way
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jun 2021

that loving Russia is what trump has them doing. I'll never forget this photo of trump and Putin after their closed-door session during the trump griftency-con as POTUS. A hang dog-look that had me thinking Putin had beat that ass when those two met privately. July 16, 2018, d.rump out bullied by a world-class bully
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/world/2018/07/16/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-summit/36899371/

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
32. They've been grooming Trump for 30+ years.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jun 2021

And they finally collected, BIGLY, ever since. Trump owes Putin controlled Russian oligarchs hundreds of millions of dollars. They're not through with him yet.

homegirl

(1,428 posts)
33. Quisling???
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jun 2021

I still believe that if Trump ever sets foot in the Russian Federation he will be dead within six weeks.

He has served his purpose and with a track record as a traitor to his own country, powerless and of no further use, Putin must eliminate the man who knows the whole story, that is Trump!


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. Hmmm. Can't help wishing he would. Otoh, do you really think
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 03:40 PM
Jun 2021

Individual One knows anything Putin can't just deny, or admit, probably with his usual smirk? A former POTUS fleeing to Russia for "freedom" should offer years of propaganda use too.

Putin has a history of allowing former leaders who were useful to him to escape justice in Russia. Some are/reportedly kept at a village (in what most people would regard as luxury accommodations) not far from Moscow, presumably in case Putin and his intelligence services want anything from them.

Oh, well. I imagine Trump living out his last years in some wilderness "shithole" with Russian winters is way too much to hope. But not to fantasize...!

Hekate

(90,646 posts)
23. She sure did, but until Trump actually took office I never imagined the rot that enabled him...
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jun 2021

…to wreak so much destruction in our federal government so fast — and the rot among our citizenry that supported it.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
15. Where is the line?
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 03:02 AM
Jun 2021

I feel it’s been crossed so often by so many. I long for justice, but I find none. So, the rage burns on.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
17. No one at FOX cares about this country or its people. They care about wealth they generate by
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 06:06 AM
Jun 2021

attacking our government and our people. Meanwhile, the owners and behind the scenes backers don't even live in this country and the original owner was not even a citizen but an immigrant who became a citizen.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
18. Oh my! You have to watch the video to believe it.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:49 AM
Jun 2021

His face and thumbs up says it all.
This is a new level for TV "news" broadcast

hadEnuf

(2,188 posts)
22. Fox "news" needs to be severely sanctioned for this, perhaps having their puditry shut down.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:37 PM
Jun 2021

This is pure treasonous propaganda against the US and our democratic way of government.

I'm sure some will argue the "free speech" bullshit, but this goes way beyond free speech. Enough is enough. This is a major news network supporting the assassination of the US president.

Find a law and shut this shit down. NOW.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
61. I'm no lawyer, but it's almost certainly protected speech.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:12 AM
Jun 2021

Saying it'd be a good thing for the President to be assassinated isn't illegal. If it were, a lot of people, maybe even some from here on DU, would be in hot water. It's horrible, but it's not illegal.

Threatening to kill the President, on the other hand, is illegal, but that's not what happened here. Gutfeld should lose his job and be persona non grata for his comments, but what he said is protected speech under the First Amendment.

hadEnuf

(2,188 posts)
63. Im no lawyer either, but like I said, find a way.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jun 2021

When a national news organization supports shit like this they need to be held accountable and pay the price for it.

We seem to search for ways to kneecap ourselves.




hadEnuf

(2,188 posts)
71. Fox isn't a First Amendment kind of place.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jun 2021

It's a subversive propaganda outlet masquerading as real news.

The First Amendment also carries responsibility and consequences. It's not an all purpose free pass for anything and everything.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
72. Well, then you need to file a lawsuit claiming as such
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:57 PM
Jun 2021

and see just how far your going to get with it.

I'll wager that you won't even get past the first court date, it would be dismissed on 1A grounds, if not laughed out of court.

hadEnuf

(2,188 posts)
73. Yeah, that's the fighting spirit. "I'll" file a lawsuit and see how far it gets "me".
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 11:34 AM
Jun 2021

And we wonder why the right gets away with anything they want.

I guess advocating for POTUS assassination by a major news outlet is somehow protected redress of grievances with the government.

Whatever.


MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
74. As I said.............
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jun 2021

I'm quite sure the Secret Service has already reviewed this and, if appropriate, will take legal action if warranted.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
24. Gutfield? Isn't he a "comedian"? Making a fascist "joke"?
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 12:56 PM
Jun 2021

I mean, isn’t it just hysterical thinking about the assassination of the President of the United States by a foreign power? And the really funny, hilariously funny part is that, if it actually happened, we’d really be getting something out of the meeting! Get it? Har-har-har!

Oh, we libs are such snowflake cancel-culture people! Where’s our sense of humor? Rush Limbaugh called Barack Obama “the magic negro!” Hysterical stuff. But did we laugh? He called 12 year old Chelsea Clinton the White House dog! Our sides should have been splitting. And now Gutfield jokes about the benefits he expects from the murder of the President -- conservatives, at least, are just peeing in their pants laughing at the humor.



P.S. Screw this smarmy little anal cyst. The Secret Service should be on him like mud on a pig, or Trump on Melania, but I repeat myself.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
51. The sad thing is none of these tools will ever understand
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 05:07 PM
Jun 2021

how despicable and vile they are. They’ll go to their graves thinking what a good boy am I -- like lard-butt Limbaugh.

And that’s the thing: since they will die unrepentant, they will surely go to hell, where they can spend eternity on the devil’s rotisserie, forced to listen to their hilarious “humor” as they roast slowly over and over again.

(I really do wish there were a hell. I’m sure I’d wind up there, of course, my life has not exactly been saintly. But at least I’d be able to listen to heavenly justice being cruelly and remorselessly meted out to these treasonous maggots.)

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
26. Examples like this are precisely why Biden and Garland need to kick it into high gear.
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jun 2021

At this point, I’d say they are far too timid. We’re not debating old time rivalry between the parties, we’re on the verge of life changing circumstances as Republican’s destructive ideals are out on display.

Fight and fight hard, damn it!

70sEraVet

(3,495 posts)
29. I'm all for shutting down Fox News, but not for this
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jun 2021

He said the word "them", not " him". Seems apparent he was talking about the hackers. Of course, such a statement seems to ignore that the hackers are employed by Putin.

TxGuitar

(4,190 posts)
34. Nothing will happen, nothing ever does
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 04:11 PM
Jun 2021

This guy is no doubt rich and connected by business or family ties or both. They don't eat their own no matter what party. I fully believe Trump when he said he could shoot somebody on 5th avenue and his supporters would still be behind him. So would the government. He could shoot Biden in the Oval and all we'd hear was how Trump was a President and we need to move on etc etc. I'm at the point of full despair that anything will happen to these criminals. Sure some of the insurrectionists will pay, but they're regular people so they don't matter. But you won't see any congressmen, senators or executives even testifying.

DBoon

(22,357 posts)
35. Did Father Coughlin ever ask Hitler to assassinate FDR?
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 06:13 PM
Jun 2021

"After hinting at attacks on Jewish bankers, Coughlin began to use his radio program to broadcast antisemitic commentary. In the late 1930s, he supported some of the fascist policies of Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, and Emperor Hirohito of Japan. The broadcasts have been described as "a variation of the Fascist agenda applied to American culture".[2] His chief topics were political and economic rather than religious, using the slogan "Social Justice". After the outbreak of World War II in Europe in 1939, the Roosevelt administration finally forced the cancellation of his radio program and forbade distribution by mail of his newspaper, Social Justice. Coughlin largely disappeared from the public arena, working as a parish pastor until retiring in 1966. He died in 1979. "

- Wikipedia

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
69. That's basically what Gutfeld does.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jun 2021

Defecate on air. Pretty much every stupid comment that escapes from his mouth.

Response to Justice matters. (Original post)

 

I of the Eye

(41 posts)
40. And while they're at it. . .
Fri Jun 4, 2021, 10:35 PM
Jun 2021

one of them should take a few minutes alone with Greg in order to remove that sleazy, smarmy, stupid, self-satisfied smirk from his face!

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
45. The inability to respond to this type of propaganda is critical.
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 09:13 AM
Jun 2021

The damage that continues to be done under the guise of free speach without the ability to provide an effective response is a critical problem steming from Reagan's repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. It must be restored to counter this madness that is destroying the nation with the result of extense polarization. What happened to e pluribus unum our nations moto.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
46. You are aware that the Fairness Doctrine would have absolutely no effect on Fox?
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 10:42 AM
Jun 2021

Fox is on cable, of which the FCC has zero authority to regulate content, also satellite and internet.

Hell, you don't even need a license to operate a channel on cable, so the FD is useless against Fox and the other RW "news" outlets.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. I don't see this reported elsewhere, and you'd think it would be
Sat Jun 5, 2021, 03:56 PM
Jun 2021

since Gutfeld is apparently being shifted from weekend to weeknight.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
54. If Harold Ford Jr. had any integrity or character, he immediately would have responded with alarm...
Sun Jun 6, 2021, 04:32 AM
Jun 2021

....and immediately asked Gutfield if he just had suggested that a foreign leader should assasinate our President or citizens of our country and said that was a good thing?

Unbelievable - both are inexcusable and Harold Ford Jr. has no business being in a journalistic capacity or a democrat.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
62. Under the current interpretation of the First Amendment, this is almost certainly protected speech.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jun 2021

Expressing approval of the assassination of a President is disgusting and anti-American, but it's protected speech. Threatening to kill the President is not protected speech, but that's not what he said.

And the call to shut down Fox News is authoritarian nonsense. It boils down to, "I don't like what you say, so you shouldn't be allowed to say it." Thankfully, the First Amendment prevents such a thing.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
67. ....
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jun 2021
And the call to shut down Fox News is authoritarian nonsense. It boils down to, "I don't like what you say, so you shouldn't be allowed to say it." Thankfully, the First Amendment prevents such a thing.


THANK YOU!!!

To paraphrase, I may not like what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
68. Yep, that saying used to be the standard regarding freedom of expression.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jun 2021

Now, though, there are some on the left who are willing to trample on constitutional rights if it gets them what they want and/or muzzles their opponents. That sort of authoritarian nonsense has no place in the Democratic Party. Leave that shit to the Republicans.

Thanks for being a fierce defender of freedom of expression, MCE. Keep fighting the good fight!

ck4829

(35,067 posts)
75. But isn't calling for the dissolution of Fox News also free and protected speech though?
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jun 2021

It's not just free speech when they do it, yes?

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
76. You can call for it all you like.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:19 PM
Jun 2021

You just can't actually shut down a news network because you don't like what they have to say.

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