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Can the US revoke citizenship? nt (Original Post) Progressive Jones Jun 2021 OP
yes there is a judicial procedure for that. drray23 Jun 2021 #1
Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization PoliticAverse Jun 2021 #2
that's just for naturalized citizens. drray23 Jun 2021 #3
Renouncing is not revoking. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2021 #5
read the article i linked instead of just the link.nt. drray23 Jun 2021 #10
Thank You. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #6
Do you have anyone in particular in mind? Buns_of_Fire Jun 2021 #4
Same here. Won't happen, but I'd love to see the 1/6 scum removed. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #7
I am a naturalized citizen gopiscrap Jun 2021 #8
Wow, that's scary. dawg day Jun 2021 #11
it sure is gopiscrap Jun 2021 #13
Natural-born citizens' citizenship can be revoked only if convicted of treason or unsurrection StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #9
Thank You nt Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #12

drray23

(7,627 posts)
1. yes there is a judicial procedure for that.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 03:35 PM
Jun 2021

it can happen to a naturalized us citizen if it's proven they lied to obtain the citizenship. Under rare circumstances even native born us citizens can be stripped of it, treason for example.

https://www.usa.gov/renounce-lose-citizenship

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jun 2021

From: https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-l-chapter-2

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on the following grounds:
A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution.

Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation.
B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;

The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and

The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment.

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization.
2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States.

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.
C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

The person became a U.S. citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces;

The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
3. that's just for naturalized citizens.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jun 2021

It is also possible for native born citizens ( although rare) to be stripped of it. In cases of treason for example or running for office in another country, pledging allegiance and being part of another country military as I posted above.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
8. I am a naturalized citizen
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jun 2021

I achieved my citizenship at 17. Three years ago I was knee deep in protesting against the trump admin as to their policies regarding refugees. In 1988 I had a "welcoming" party for George Bush Sr in which myself and 6 others were charged with inciting a riot. In 2018 my wife and I were going to work in a refugee camp in Greece and were put on the no fly list and also I had my citizenship threatened. Lucky for me I knew a bunch of lawyers, I had to go before a panel and wound up getting an injunction against trump to leave me alone. But the short answer is: YES the government can revoke your naturalized citizenship

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
11. Wow, that's scary.
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jun 2021

I didn't realize that naturalized citizens don't have 1st amendment rights, but it sure seems like that's a threat.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. Natural-born citizens' citizenship can be revoked only if convicted of treason or unsurrection
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jun 2021

AND only then, if the act of treason or insurrection was committed with the intention of renouncing citizenship.

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