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malaise

(267,808 posts)
Sat May 8, 2021, 07:18 PM May 2021

NPR: New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S.

Some DUers have been warning us that the numbers
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/05/06/994287048/new-study-estimates-more-than-900-000-people-have-died-of-covid-19-in-u-s

A new study estimates that the number of people who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. is more than 900,000, a number 57% higher than official figures.

Worldwide, the study's authors say, the COVID-19 death count is nearing 7 million, more than double the reported number of 3.24 million.

The analysis comes from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, who looked at excess mortality from March 2020 through May 3, 2021, compared it with what would be expected in a typical nonpandemic year, then adjusted those figures to account for a handful of other pandemic-related factors.

The final count only estimates deaths "caused directly by the SARS-CoV-2 virus," according to the study's authors. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19.

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No words - more here

http://www.healthdata.org/special-analysis/estimation-excess-mortality-due-covid-19-and-scalars-reported-covid-19-deaths

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NPR: New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S. (Original Post) malaise May 2021 OP
K&R. Not surprised. I think they will be finding bodies in chest freezers years from now. rzemanfl May 2021 #1
As you point out, DU has been saying this all along. Heartbreaking to see it confirmed. niyad May 2021 #2
it is not confirmed at all, that study is an extreme outlier, with dodgy methodology Celerity May 2021 #24
Thank you Bucky May 2021 #33
....and so many unnecessary deaths do to the USA's lack of an intelligent, caring leader. spanone May 2021 #3
Not just the US brother malaise May 2021 #4
Many of these people were workers. Some employees whine and do not take into diehardblue May 2021 #5
There needs to be accountability pandr32 May 2021 #6
I Wish They'd Break Numbers Down By State-I Have Feeling Florida is No. 1 Scam Stallion May 2021 #7
Truth will out malaise May 2021 #9
Go to www.worldometers/covid Delmette2.0 May 2021 #12
They Cover Excess Deaths in World-o-Meters? Stallion May 2021 #14
no, they do not NewJeffCT May 2021 #22
And most importantly... IrishAfricanAmerican May 2021 #8
I thought it would be at least 1,000,000 roamer65 May 2021 #10
I bet the numbers in the red states are undercounted. kimbutgar May 2021 #11
President Obama left the people, the protocols, and the materials inplace that would have stopped .. Botany May 2021 #13
This 100%. oasis May 2021 #19
Obama ... well really the experts that Obama let do their jobs ... held ebola to 2 deaths in America Botany May 2021 #32
_1,000 malaise May 2021 #20
Ghastly, but I am not surprised Hekate May 2021 #15
I knew one person who died four or five months after the initial infection. femmedem May 2021 #16
I don't know why the public doesn't get to know what's happened. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #17
Thanks for psoting this article - heartbreaking. n/t iluvtennis May 2021 #18
Too High ProfessorGAC May 2021 #21
When you suggest caution I listen malaise May 2021 #26
that study is an extreme outlier and uses unsound methodologies that have been constantly exposed Celerity May 2021 #23
Thanks malaise May 2021 #27
yw, and how are things in JA? Hopefully all of your circle is safe and sound. Celerity May 2021 #28
Looks like the numbers are slowly coming down malaise May 2021 #29
Stay safe! Normality will eventually return for the most part. Celerity May 2021 #30
It apparently currently sets the high end of estimates based on counts of Hortensis May 2021 #25
IHME is the group that insisted for months that the death number would not go over 60,000. Scrivener7 May 2021 #31

rzemanfl

(29,540 posts)
1. K&R. Not surprised. I think they will be finding bodies in chest freezers years from now.
Sat May 8, 2021, 07:22 PM
May 2021

It's hard to be locked up with other people for months without cracking up and some folks might have wanted the checks to keep coming.

diehardblue

(10,997 posts)
5. Many of these people were workers. Some employees whine and do not take into
Sat May 8, 2021, 07:41 PM
May 2021

consideration the toll COVID 19 had on the workforce..

pandr32

(11,447 posts)
6. There needs to be accountability
Sat May 8, 2021, 07:44 PM
May 2021

This is the result of malfeasance, corruption, and indifference. If a certain someone didn't look at skimming into his own pockets as the only reason to act hundreds of thousands of people would still be with us.

Stallion

(6,473 posts)
7. I Wish They'd Break Numbers Down By State-I Have Feeling Florida is No. 1 Scam
Sat May 8, 2021, 08:06 PM
May 2021

closely followed by Texas

Delmette2.0

(4,142 posts)
12. Go to www.worldometers/covid
Sat May 8, 2021, 09:49 PM
May 2021

I can't get the link to copy, sorry. It can tank a minute or 2 or 3 to load, there is lot of details. Scroll down to the end with the spreadsheet with every country. The USA link has every state.

kimbutgar

(20,876 posts)
11. I bet the numbers in the red states are undercounted.
Sat May 8, 2021, 09:25 PM
May 2021

Florida firing that data analyst and then trying to arrest her in her home comes to mind. And you know those mountain states are also bad.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
13. President Obama left the people, the protocols, and the materials inplace that would have stopped ..
Sat May 8, 2021, 09:51 PM
May 2021

Last edited Sun May 9, 2021, 07:32 AM - Edit history (1)

... this nightmare. Trump got rid of all of that stuff because it was, "the black guy's idea."

Botany

(70,291 posts)
32. Obama ... well really the experts that Obama let do their jobs ... held ebola to 2 deaths in America
Sun May 9, 2021, 09:45 AM
May 2021

We and the world should not be going through with this crap. China although hardly blameless
isolated the C-19 virus and sequenced its genome which they gave to to the W.H.O. who gave
that data to some German Scientists who then developed a perfectly good test for C-19 which
Trump rejected in order to make money with his own test kit that did not work.

Never forget that Vietnam with 90 million people and real close to China has had a total of 35
deaths from C-19. They followed science and wore masks.

Russia and Trump helped to stoke these Ohio anti mask anti science dumb fucks fears.

femmedem

(8,187 posts)
16. I knew one person who died four or five months after the initial infection.
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:05 PM
May 2021

He was only in his mid-fifties but had pre-existing conditions made worse by the virus. He wasn't officially counted.

I knew another man with no pre-existing conditions who suddenly developed untreatable pneumonia. He tested negative--but during that same period, a woman I know who developed pneumonia tested negative twice before testing positive.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
17. I don't know why the public doesn't get to know what's happened.
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:10 PM
May 2021

And the current administration has no reason to hold it back, does it? This is CLEARLY the fault of the incredibly bad response by He Who Should Never Be Named.

ProfessorGAC

(64,419 posts)
21. Too High
Sun May 9, 2021, 07:36 AM
May 2021

IHME has had issues with their modeling for a year, now.
The actuarial community at the big insurers have been consistent the the numbers are around 20% higher than reported. That would bring us up to around 700,000.
This model makes some awfully broad assumptions & some less than scientific hunches.
They're the only ones reporting numbers this high, and given their wild swings & constant revisions last spring to early fall, I see no reason to believe IHME are the only group getting it right.
Yes, consensus appears to be reached that the reported numbers are too low. But, >900k is an aberration.

Celerity

(42,652 posts)
23. that study is an extreme outlier and uses unsound methodologies that have been constantly exposed
Sun May 9, 2021, 07:59 AM
May 2021
The first OP on it here at DU was pulled down by the poster due to this.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215410853


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215410853#post4





malaise

(267,808 posts)
29. Looks like the numbers are slowly coming down
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:32 AM
May 2021

We're all trying to keep busy but we want to return to normal life

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. It apparently currently sets the high end of estimates based on counts of
Sun May 9, 2021, 08:14 AM
May 2021
excess mortality, which are adjusted for various factors by different research teams, which causes the different findings. This team is including excess deaths that some others are not, such as, apparently, excess deaths from deferred healthcare.

Research will continue and, as data accumulate and improve (they're still having to work with Trump-era and red-state data), agreement will tighten.

Scrivener7

(50,773 posts)
31. IHME is the group that insisted for months that the death number would not go over 60,000.
Sun May 9, 2021, 09:41 AM
May 2021

For that reason, for the early months of the pandemic, they were Donny Bodybags's favorite counter, and they were the source that he used to insist, "It's no worse than the flu." It was the source he used to justify doing NOTHING for months.

IHME is the group whose irresponsible numbers are the reason we have a death toll higher than any other country.

IHME is crap.

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